Downtown Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingCarbondale, IL · October 14, 2015
Minutes
MINUTES
Downtown Master Plan Advisory Committee
Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 6:30 p.m.
Carbondale Civic Center
200 South Illinois Avenue
Mr. Langowski called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m.
Members Present: Bleyer, Boeckman, Clow, Cole, Colombo, Gregory, Langowski,
Ramseyer, Dr. Reddy, Schachel, Sheffer, Sigler, Terry
Members Absent: Bukowski, Carter, Gorton, Miller
Staff Present: Taylor, Wallace
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Approximately 32 persons in attendance.
1) Bring to order:
J. Langowski made his opening remarks. He stated he believes all the data has been
collected and now the opportunities can be explored.
2) Approval of minutes:
J. Langowski asked for a motion to approve the minutes from the April 29th, 2015,
meeting.
B. Bleyer made the motion and Dr. Reddy seconded the motion and all were in favor.
3) Progress report on America’s Best Communities:
J. Langowski made introductory remarks and discussed the America’s Best Community
Project. J. Langowski introduced M. Cole to discuss the project.
M. Cole stated we are selected as one of the 50 quarter finalists to receive $65,000
dollars for a planning grant. They are using the Gigabit city designation as an item to
build a plan on. She discussed the grant award process and the amounts for the rewards.
J. Langowski thanked M. Cole for her information.
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4) Consultant (Housel Lavigne and Associates) Update:
J. Langowski introduced the consulting team, Devin Lavigne and Paul Finn with
Houseal Lavigne Associates, LLC.
D. Lavigne said the group is in the home stretch. He stated that we are now focusing on
solutions instead of problems. He discussed all the outreach they have completed and
discussed seeking out solutions from the community about the problems that have been
identified. They will begin creating the guiding vision after the meeting they had last
night. The draft document being presented tonight serves as a current snapshot of the
community.
D. Lavigne discussed all the items on the web site for the project. He discussed the
SMAP program and the Visual Preference Survey. He also discussed the participation
they have received in all the surveys they have produced. He mentioned they found that
streetscape improvement is very important. Open space has become very important
along with a community gathering space. He discussed signage showing events
downtown to draw students into downtown. He discussed areas for development
opportunities.
D. Lavigne stated the SIH-SIU connection will be part of the entire plan not just its own
section. The downtown really consists of four areas. The northern end is auto centric.
The western downtown area has historic character and lots of opportunities to build the
urban fabric. The eastern town square area serves as the example for development, and
the southern downtown is the entertainment and student center of downtown.
D. Lavigne stated the coordination of developers, land owners, and the City, is a critical
issue that needs to be improved. The arts and entertainment section needs to be
emphasized. New venues for entertainment and city events year round to attract visitors
and residents to downtown are needed.
D. Lavigne stated that IDOT is leaning towards not turning over Southern Illinois
Avenue. The multimodal transportation center would be a great asset to downtown. The
parking is an issue but it is compounded by the desire to redevelop the parking lots into
buildings.
D. Lavigne stated they will be establishing the priority areas that should be the pedestrian
cores of the downtown. The accessibility issues and the sidewalks need to be better
maintained and how do we pay for it. Bicycle infrastructure needs to be improved.
D. Lavigne asked how we bring our streetscapes into pedestrian scale. Code
enforcement was discussed as a reason for the decline in building maintenance. What
cooperative projects can the school, hospital, and the City work on to better downtown?
He will address those in the plan.
D. Lavigne stated all these items will be addressed in a document to be presented at the
November 18th meeting. They plan on having a draft framework for the final plan to staff
by the end of 2015. They will have it to the committee in January of 2016 and have an
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open house then as well. The will move into implementation plans in February. They
will also have a branding meeting in late February and hopefully have a final plan to the
committee in March of 2016.
5) Comments from the members of the Downtown Advisory Committee:
J. Langowski began the committee comments portion of the meeting by asking J. Clow
for his comments.
J. Clow asked if the comment cards from SIU come back to the group.
D. Lavigne responded that they had. The majority of the cards received had been from
SIU students.
N. Columbo thanked the consultant for their work.
B. Bleyer thanked them for breaking the downtown into four areas. He asked if they
were focusing on what a student was looking for or what the downtown could benefit
from the student.
D. Lavigne stated the students wanted more places to eat downtown. The students are a
major driver for the southern end of downtown up to the town square area of downtown.
G. Scheffer stated for the downtown area to be successful the business community needs
to invest in the downtown. It is going to take more money than the government can put
into downtown to make it work.
D. Lavigne stated the final piece of the plan will address those issues. He stated
investors need an incentive to invest and the plan should help provide guidance for
investors and help them see ways to have development make sense.
D. Boeckman stated the hospital is excited with the work the consultant has performed
so far. He asked how the consultant proposes dealing with the infrastructure.
D. Lavigne stated they are working with two other firms to develop this plan. The area
was built prior to storm water control. Underground detention is probably the best
solution but it increases the cost of development.
E. Ramseyer stated she appreciated how comprehensive the report is and it gives her
confidence that they can deliver the goods and have the plan speak to the community.
P. Finn stated the City of Champagne built the bone creek corridor and it helped
introduce many students to the downtown.
M. Cole had no comments.
D. Terry asked how the 22 redevelopment sites were defined.
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D. Lavigne stated it is the vacant areas with potential to improve or thrive. They have a
catalyst to grow and thrive.
D. Terry asked that the consultant could place the properties that should be sold to
develop.
D. Lavigne stated City property is the easiest way to provide incentive to developers.
K. Gregory thought it was interesting that people thought downtown should be
expanded.
Dr. Reddy stated investors invest to get a return. SIU alumni should be invited to
downtown to try and get them to invest in the city. The high speed internet can be used
for telemedicine. Identify things in downtown that are there and available for use. We
should help develop and improve things that already exist. We need to establish a quiet
zone in downtown. We need to use the area behind the police station for a sports stadium
or outdoor recreation place.
K. Schachel thanked the consultant for their work.
J. Sigler stated demographics are extremely important to this process. What is the
fesability for a town like us to complete these projects?
D. Lavigne stated they are going to research that a little more. He noted the population
count includes the students and that helps attract retailers. The downside is it draws
down they median income. It helps with grant funding but hurts with certain retailers.
There needs to be two different pitches developed that takes the students out of the
equation and one that uses them. No part of the plan, so far, has been seen as
unattainable. He will help to calibrate the plan to the needs and wants of the community.
He stated the only portion of the plan maybe in jeopardy is the proposed Multi Modal
facility because of the need for state funding.
J. Langowski stated this is a good and solid report that contained very good detail. He
stated the opportunities chart needs some revision. He appreciated the four area
breakdown of downtown. It helped to organize the results. He reviewed the need for
repair of the sidewalks to allow for all the accessible needs of our community.
J. Langowski reviewed upcoming events for the committee.
6) Comments from the public:
J. Langowski opened the floor for public comment.
There was one comment.
D. Lavigne stated the outreach portion of the website is open throughout the process. He
said it’s never too late for a good idea.
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7) Announcement of next meeting, date, time, and location:
J. Langowski announced the next meeting for 6:00 p.m. on November 18, 2015. He then
asked for a motion to adjourn the meeting.
8) Adjournment
E. Ramseyer motioned to adjourn the meeting.
G. Scheffer seconded the motion and all were in favor.
J. Langowski closed the meeting at 7:36 p.m.
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Agenda
AGENDA
Carbondale Downtown Master
Plan Advisory Committee
October 14, 2015
City Hall / Civic Center
200 South Illinois Avenue, Room 108
6:30 p.m.
1. Bring to order and roll call of members
2. Approval of Minutes - April 29, 2015
3. Progress report on the America’s Best Communities by Meghan Cole
4. Introduction of representatives of Houseal Lavigne Consultants who
will present their update:
a. Downtown Carbondale Existing Conditions Report
b. Summary of Community Outreach (will continue to gather input from
these outreach methods throughout the planning process)
c. Summary of Last Night’s Community Open House and Downtown
Visioning Charrette
d. Key Planning Direction
5. Comments from the public
6. Final comments from members of the DAC
7. Announcement of next meeting, date, time and location
8. Adjournment