Human Relations Commission
Regular MeetingDeKalb, IL · April 5, 2016
Minutes
MINUTES
CITY OF DEKALB
HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION
April 5, 2016
The Human Relations Commission held a Meeting on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 in the Bilder Room
of the DeKalb Public Library.
Chair Larry Apperson calling meeting to order called the meeting to order at 6:35 p.m.
A. ROLL CALL
The following members of the HRC were present: Larry Apperson (Chair), Joe Gastiger, Norden
Gilbert, Lisa King, Ellingsworth Webb, Robert Williams and Cameron Zelaya.
The following City staff members were present: Deputy Police Chief John Petragallo and
Management Analyst Lauren Stott.
Fifth Ward Alderman Kate Noreiko was also present.
Notes were taken by Analyst Stott.
B. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA – ADDITIONS / DELETIONS
The agenda was approved with no additions or deletions.
C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the March 1, 2016 meeting were approved.
D. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
1. Follow-up Discussion to Diversity Dialogue: “The First Amendment: Right to Free Speech
and the Right to Peacefully Assemble”
The Commissioners initiated the public discussion regarding the Diversity Dialogue: “The
First Amendment: Right to Free Speech and the Right to Peacefully Assemble.”
Several Commissioners provided feedback about the Diversity Dialogue meeting at NIU,
and indicated that they received positive feedback about the dialogue meeting.
The Commissioners discussed the possibility of encouraging free speech throughout the
City by designating areas for peaceable assembly, perhaps in parks or other public spaces.
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The Commissioners and Alderman Noreiko recommended several spots throughout the
community, including the Library and the corner of Route 38 and First Street.
The Commissioners asked the present staff members whether any rules are already in place
for controlling mass gatherings.
Analyst Stott and Deputy Chief Petragallo indicated that planned gatherings are typically
monitored by the permitting process, but that some mass gatherings, such as spontaneous
demonstrations, are impossible to monitor and predict.
Several Commissioners indicated that attempting to designate locations for free speech
activities would diminish the effectiveness of assembling and might be challenging to
enforce in the event of spontaneous gatherings.
Commissioner Robert Williams indicated that spontaneous demonstrations are always a
possibility in the college town environment.
Deputy Chief Petragallo said the Police Department has already been faced with such
situations.
Deputy Chief Petragallo said that the Police Department always tries to work with
organizers in the event of peaceable assembly activities, and that Police personnel exercise
flexibility whenever possible. He said that the Police Department always works to ensure
the assembled groups are able to carry out their mission of demonstration if possible and
conducted in a safe way.
The Commissioners and Alderman Noreiko talked about the possibility of discussing free
speech areas at a later time.
E. OLD BUSINESS
1. Diversity Dialogue Meetings
The Commissioners in attendance at the first NIU Diversity Dialogue meeting provided a
brief summary of the event and indicated that NIU plans to host future events on other
topics related to diversity.
2. Next Steps on Training Proposal(s)
Chair Apperson indicated that the Commissioners could expect discussion regarding the
cultural competency training proposals to resume at the HRC’s next meeting.
3. Discussion and Review of Models for Re-Entry of Ex-Offenders
A motion was made to table this item for a future meeting.
4. Update and Discussion on HRC Brochure
A motion was made to table this item for a future meeting.
F. NEW BUSINESS
1. Commissioner Cameron Zelaya announced his resignation and departure from the Human
Relations Commission due to a relocation. Commissioner Zelaya indicated that he has
enjoyed his time serving the Commission. The other Commissioners wished Commissioner
Zelaya the best in his future endeavors.
G. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:19 p.m.
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LAUREN STOTT, Management Analyst
Minutes approved by the Human Relations Commission on July 5, 2016.
Agenda
AGENDA
Human Relations Commission
NOTE LOCATION: DeKalb Public Library, Bilder Room
April 5, 2016
6:30 p.m.
A. Roll Call
B. Approval of Agenda – Additions / Deletions
C. Approval of Minutes
1. March 1, 2016 Meeting Minutes
D. Public Participation
1. Follow-up Discussion to Diversity Dialogue: “The First Amendment: Right to Free
Speech and the Right to Peacefully Assemble”
E. Old Business
1. Diversity Dialogue Meetings
2. Next Steps on Training Proposal(s)
3. Discussion and Review of Models for Re-Entry of Ex-Offenders
4. Update and Discussion on HRC Brochure
F. New Business
G. Adjournment
MINUTES
CITY OF DEKALB
HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION
March 1, 2016
The Human Relations Commission held a Meeting on March 1, 2016 in City Hall Council
Chambers.
Chair Larry Apperson calling meeting to order called the meeting to order at 6:35 p.m.
A. ROLL CALL
The following members of the HRC were present: Larry Apperson (Chair), Joe Gastiger, Norden
Gilbert, Lisa King, Ellingsworth Webb, Robert Williams and Cameron Zelaya.
The following City staff members were present: City Manager Anne Marie Gaura, Chief Gene
Lowery and Management Analyst Lauren Stott.
Notes were taken by Analyst Stott.
B. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA – ADDITIONS / DELETIONS
The agenda was approved with no additions or deletions.
C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioners identified two errors within the minutes document and approved the minutes with
the corrections.
D. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
No public comments were made.
E. OLD BUSINESS
1. Discussion on Public Assemblies.
Commissioner Webb indicated that the group should discuss the proposed mass gathering
ordinances in the context of the public comments made at recent Human Relations
Commission meetings.
Commissioner Gilbert indicated that he thought the City Attorney could review the
municipal code to address other concerns: public drunkenness, guns and traffic control. He
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indicated that toughening those provisions may ensure a higher level of safety in the
community.
Commissioner Gastiger said he does believe the ordinances were drafted to protect people
in the community, but the heart of the problem lies with gun control.
Commissioner King said the fact that the ordinance was raised and that it moved so quickly
through the legislative process is concerning. She said she hopes DeKalb can emulate
communities such as Chicago’s Hyde Park, Oak Park and Evanston.
Commissioner Zelaya said he doesn’t believe the ordinance should be considered by the
City Council. He also said he believes some parts of the ordinance are relevant and should
be considered administratively.
Commissioner Webb said he believes the key for the community to move forward,
including the City, is cultural competency training and other positive reinforcements.
Commissioner Gilbert said he also believes the “safe way out” provision in the proposed
ordinances is of value, but other elements do not provide the same value.
Commissioner Webb said he would like to make a motion to recommend to the City
Council that the proposed mass gathering ordinances are not adopted. He also said he
would like the recommendation to include a statement the Police Chief and the Police
Department provide positive leadership in the community.
Chair Apperson said he does believe elements of the ordinance would provide value and
that the Police Chief may be the appropriate staff person to lead the efforts. Chair Apperson
indicated that the Commission should perhaps make a motion to recommend a withdrawal
of all versions of the ordinances from consideration by the City Council, and that staff
should conduct a review of current City Code to attempt to identify any other items that
need to be addressed.
Commissioner Webb said he wants the recommendation to include enhanced
communication with student stakeholders on previous issues and considerations.
Commissioner Gilbert said he would like the recommendation to include a clause regarding
the Commission’s support of City staff on its good intentions in bringing the recommended
ordinances to the public bodies.
Commissioner King said she also believes cultural competency training is important to
understand issues of the constituents, for all Police Officers and Aldermen. She indicated
that the ordinance consideration process revealed some shortcomings of the legislative
process.
Chair Apperson said he would like to invite the Police Chief to provide his comments.
Chief Lowery said he was most concerned about the comments from Commissioner King,
who indicated that she does not trust the intentions of the staff members who created the
draft ordinances. He said that every university town in the state has an ordinance similar to
the ones proposed to City Council, although DeKalb’s were more detailed. Chief Lowery
said he feels accountable for the perception that DeKalb did not reach out to enough
stakeholders. Chief Lowery said he hears the comments from people saying that it is
important for the students to have a voice in the legislative process, but he also believes
that it is important for non-students in the community to be represented. Chief Lowery said
that staff never intended for the proposed ordinances to infringe on First Amendment
rights. He contested claims by many who said the proposed ordinances were “rushed
through,” and indicated that they were brought to the City Council in the typical way, with
a first reading and a second reading at a following meeting. Chief Lowery said he agrees
with the comment from Commissioner Gastiger indicating that gun control is presenting
many problems in the community. Chief Lowery said he wishes he hadn’t wasted the
community capital used during the process of considering the ordinances, but that he is
pleased that the community engaged in a process of review. He said he intends to attend
the next City Council meeting and request the City Council to withdraw its consideration
of the previously proposed ordinances. He said he intends of reviewing the topic again at
a later time, and that the City will work to gather input from various community groups
and stakeholders. He thanked the HRC for their service.
Chair Apperson said he appreciates the Chief’s dedication to the community and his work
to enhance safety in the community.
Commissioner King said she doesn’t believe a person has to be a Police Officer or Police
Chief to understand the difficulties of what excellence public safety service looks like.
Commissioner King said she appreciates that the Chief attended the HRC meetings to
understand the opinions of the community.
Chief Lowery said the Police Department is working to identify methods for cultural
competency training. He said he believes the dialogue regarding public assemblies has been
healthy. He said there is sometimes too much focus at the bottom of the process, and that
other, wider elements such as background and family, are not addressed.
Chief Lowery was asked by a member of the audience whether he has considered yet his
method for communicating his decision to withdraw the request for consideration of the
ordinance to the City Council. He said he would say that will keep it as simple as possible
and would use some of the basic framework he has used during the present meeting.
Audience Member Kay Shelton said she believes the proposed ordinances should have
been presented at a City Council Committee of the Whole meeting.
Audience Member Michael Haji-Sheikh said he would have known at first glance that the
proposed ordinances would be controversial. He said staff and the HRC should present
related concepts in the future to the University Council.
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Chair Apperson said he wanted to share a draft recommendation with the HRC for review
and comment. Chair Apperson read the draft recommendation and Commissioner Webb
asked for a motion and a second.
The Commission discussed the wording of Chair Apperson’s draft recommendation.
Commissioner King asked when the discussion on cultural competency would occur, and
Chair Apperson said that the discussion would occur during the item called “Update on
Training Proposal” on the meeting agenda.
Commissioner King asked whether the HRC recommendation should include a note that
the Police Chief is withdrawing his recommendation for the proposed ordinances. The
Commissioners discussed the question and determined it would not include that
information.
Commissioner Webb asked for the Commissioners to indicate their support or choice to
not support the draft recommendation from Chair Apperson. The motion passed 7-0.
Commissioner Gastiger indicated that he had a recommendation for a revision to one line
on the draft. Commissioner Webb indicated the Commission’s re-visitation of the motion,
and the motion passed 7-0.
Update on Training Proposal
Chair Apperson indicated that the Commission had previously discussed a subcommittee
to contemplate cultural competency training, but did not move forward with that concept
because of Open Meeting Act concerns, and therefore the discussion is being picked up at
this time.
Chair Apperson said due to perceived funding issues, he reached out to the DeKalb County
Community Foundation for guidance on potential grants for cultural competency training.
He said he reviewed a DCCF grant application and determined that he did not feel
comfortable indicating that the training could not be fulfilled without approval of the grant.
Chair Apperson indicated that through discussions with City staff, he understands that a
high level of commitment can be expected for the training.
City Manager Anne Marie Gaura said she believes that the City may not qualify for the
grant because it cannot prove that dollars are not available for the training, but that the City
is open to other funding opportunities and partnerships for the cultural competency
training. She also said that the upcoming change in fiscal year should assist with budgeting
for the training. She said it will be important to consider turnover and develop an ongoing
training plan instead of a one-time session.
Commissioner Gastiger said he would like to understand the level of priority assigned to
the training item, and that he hopes the training is conducted in a way that promotes
conversation and buy-in. The Commission discussed the concept of department-by-
department training versus a group setting that includes people from various City
departments.
Commissioner Williams said he is concerned with the length of time it will take for trainees
to experience a shift in their consciousness. He said he would like to see another training
model proposal. He said he is unsure of the aim of the training. He said he would like a
continued assessment of the training program.
Commissioner Gastiger said he believes institutions often have a default setting, and it is
challenging to change that atmosphere.
Chair Apperson indicated that there is no guarantee that all goals will be achieved in a
training, but he doesn’t believe that is a sufficient reason to not attempt the training.
NIU Chief Diversity Officer Vernese Edghill-Walden indicated that, at a prior HRC
meeting, the HRC had indicated that it didn’t want the impression that the training was
occurring only from a compliance standpoint. She said consistency is a concern the
Commission should consider.
The Commissioners discussed training funding.
Liaison Stott said staff cannot responsibly consider the training during the budget process
until a proposal is made from the HRC.
Commissioner Gastiger said he would like at least a general indication of the amount of
money allocated for the training.
Commissioner King asked the City Manager if she can indicate where on a priority list the
cultural competency training would lie.
City Manager Gaura explained the budget process, and said that the training is a high staff
priority but that it is not possible to list it definitively on a list at this point in the budget
process.
Chair Apperson said he wanted to remind the Commission that the point of this discussion
is to readdress questions and consider more elements of the training recommendation, not
to necessarily make a decision on a proposal tonight.
Update on Community Dialogue Group
Chair Apperson asked Commissioner Zelaya to provide an update on the Diversity
Dialogue planning.
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Commissioner Zelaya indicated that the first dialogue will cover the topic of First
Amendment rights. Commissioner Zelaya provided the details of the March dialogue
meeting.
Dr. Edghill-Walden provided background details on the presenters booked for the March
dialogue.
Commissioner Zelaya indicated that NIU has requested for the HRC to assist in
disseminating information about the event. He said that the NIU representatives hope for a
continuance of the dialogue hosted by the HRC between March 23 and April 20.
Chair Apperson asked for a vote for the Commission to co-sponsor the follow-up dialogue
event. The motion passed 7-0.
Commissioner King asked that, before the meeting adjourned, the Commission recognizes
the recent controversy occurring at DeKalb High School.
Commissioner Zelaya said Dr. Edghill-Walden indicated that partnering with the High
School following the incident is a plan NIU has had.
Dr. Edghill-Walden said NIU is currently having a dialogue with Dr. Moeller of DeKalb
High School and she will follow up on this item with him.
Commissioner Webb said he thinks he might feel uncomfortable with the word “training.”
Chair Apperson said the Commissioner can consider the use of the word “training” in
future discussions.
F. NEW BUSINESS
No new business was addressed.
G. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:49 p.m.
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LAUREN STOTT, Management Analyst
Minutes approved by the Human Relations Commission on date of approval.
Minutes should be posted on the website no less than 48 hours after they’ve been approved.