Human Relations Commission
Regular MeetingDeKalb, IL · November 5, 2019
Minutes
MINUTES
CITY OF DEKALB
Human Relations Commission
November 5, 2019
The Human Relations Committee (HRC) held a regular meeting on November 5, 2019, in the
Executive Conference Room at City Hall.
Chair Larry Apperson called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m.
A. ROLL CALL
The following members of the HRC were present: Larry Apperson (Chair), Dave Barrow,
Nadine Franklin, Joe Gastiger, Norden Gilbert, Lisa King, and Tyrus Wright.
Other City officials/staff present: Alderman Scott McAdams, Assistant City Manager Raymond
Munch, and Interim Chief of Police John Petragallo.
B. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA – ADDITIONS / DELETIONS
Motion to approve the agenda was made by Mr. Gastiger and seconded by Mr. Gilbert. Motion
was approved by voice vote.
C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mr. Gilbert motioned that the minutes of the October 1, 2019, meeting be approved. Mr.
Apperson asked that the minutes be amended to capture the next steps agreed upon by Chief
Petragallo and Mr. Mitchell. Mr. Gilbert motioned to approve the amended minutes; motion was
seconded by Mr. Barrow. Minutes were approved by voice vote.
D. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
Chair Apperson called for public comment and there was none.
E. NEW BUSINESS
1. None
F. OLD BUSINESS
1. Discussion of Police/Community Relations
Chief Petragallo was invited to update the members on his continued work to address the
issue of police-community relations after an incident in August. Chief Petragallo
indicated that he met with Joe Mitchell on October 2. Chief Petragallo explained that
they had a good conversation and he agreed to send the table of contents of the
department’s policy manual to Mr. Mitchell. This will give Mr. Mitchell an opportunity
to review what, if any, policies may be of interest for community review.
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RITE training is progressing slower than hoped due to NIU being in their busiest time of
year. In December, Chief Phillips will host a training session open to the entire County
and hopes to host another in spring and one in summer. Chief Petragallo also learned
one DPD officer is already a certified RITE trainer and one or two more will be sent to
train the trainer.
Joe Gastiger asked if the department has required annual training to maintain
certifications, similar to other professions. Chief Petragallo said, yes. Commander
Woodruff is working on updating 2019 training records.
Police-2-Citizen is ready to launch within next few weeks. Chief Petragallo shared with
members what the public will see on the new portal and explained some of the
functionality. Mr. Apperson asked if code violations could be displayed. ACM Munch
explained that the logistics of that could be explored; however, Building & Code does
not have access to the police records management system that feeds into this program.
Joe Gastiger informed the members of an organized demonstration on Saturday,
November 9, at 2 p.m. in front of the police station.
2. Landlord-Tenant Regulations – Review of Chapter 10 or Municipal Code
Mr. Gastiger started discussion noting 10.06 code violations. Notification of open code
violations is required, but questions whether landlords can rent to a new tenant if open
code violations exist. Barrow added that this section might need more teeth to really be
effective.
Ryan Ziegelbauer (public participant) shared his experience living in Scotland as an
international student. There, every landlord is licensed by the city and must be inspected
by city upon move in/out. Also, there were highly visible resources available to find
safe, affordable housing.
Jacob Masse (public participant) talked about the fact that code enforcement does work
and recently helped to get heat turned back on at Lincoln Tower. However, it seems like
the code enforcement issue is a vicious cycle. As issues are addressed and resolve, new
ones come up.
Mr. Gastiger stated that doesn’t believe “mom and pop” landlords should be held to
same standards as larger corporate landlords.
Anylin Ziegelbauer (public participant) shared that “mom and pop” landlords in
Scotland are still regulated, but the are different tiers of regulation based on number of
units managed.
Jacob Masse talked about tenant regulations in other Illinois towns that may be useful in
DeKalb. Evanston has a common lease that is required and promotes a Centers for
Disease Control program known as the healthy home project. He also talked about an
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Evanston program that allows residents to deduct from rent for repairs. ACM Munch
clarified that is a State law known as the Right to Repair Act.
Mr. Barrow expressed his support for a common lease.
Ms. King raised the point that we may need to be cautious about impacting good
landlords unintentionally. She thinks maybe we are applying something to a group
because of one bad apple. ACM Munch stated that the members need to think about the
need to balance the City’s role of promoting the health, safety and welfare of tenants
with the rights of private business. He indicated that much of what is being suggested is
already regulated in the court of civil law and trying to regulate this through City code
may be impractical.
Mr. Apperson discussed the idea of a true landlord licensing program that would require
inspections. He stated he realizes that is the potential for a lot of work and staff time
needed for such a program. ACM Munch indicated there is some history behind that
idea and when it was discussed in the past, there was pushback from landlords.
Members discussed ways to work with NIU to share information with student renters
about finding quality rental housing. Anylin Ziegelbauer added that it might be worth
sharing that same info with local employers whose employees are likely to rent.
3. Census Update
Mr. Apperson informed the members that he participated in the first Complete Count
Committee and updated members on that meeting and census efforts in general.
4. AGN Update
None.
G. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 8:16 p.m. Motion by Mr. Gilbert, seconded by Mr. Barrow.
Motion approved by voice vote.
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Raymond Munch, Assistant City Manager
Minutes approved by the Human Relations Commission on: January 7, 2020
Agenda
AGENDA
Human Relations Commission Meeting
Location: Executive Conference Room (Second Floor)
City Hall, 200 South Fourth Street
November 5, 2019
6:30 p.m.
A. Roll Call
B. Approval of Agenda – Additions/Deletions
C. Approval of Minutes – October 1, 2019
D. Public Participation
E. New Business
1. None
F. Old Business
1. Police/Community Relations Update
2. Municipal Code, Chapter 10, Landlord-Tenant Regulations Review
3. Census Update
4. AGN Update
G. Adjournment
For questions regarding this agenda, please contact Raymond Munch at 815-748-2392 or
raymond.munch@cityofdekalb.com