Planning & Zoning Commission
Regular MeetingDeKalb, IL · May 22, 2019
Minutes
MINUTES
CITY OF DEKALB
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
May 22, 2019
The Planning and Zoning Commission held a Meeting on May 22, 2019, at the City of
DeKalb Municipal Building, 200 South Fourth Street, DeKalb, Illinois. Chair Christina Doe
called the meeting order at 6:00 PM.
A. ROLL CALL
Recording Secretary Christine Wang called the roll. Planning and Zoning
Commission members present were: Chair Christina Doe, Katharina Barbe, Vicki
Buckley, David Castro, and Max Maxwell. Commissioners Ron Klein and Jerry
Wright were absent.
City staff present were Principal Planner Dan Olson and Recording Secretary
Christine Wang.
B. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA (Additions/Deletions)
Chair Doe requested a motion to approve the May 22, 2019, agenda as presented.
Ms. Barbe motioned to approve the agenda as presented. Mr. Maxwell seconded
the motion, and the motion was approved by unanimous voice vote.
C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
None.
D. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (Open Floor to Anyone Wishing to Speak on Record)
None.
E. NEW BUSINESS
1. Concept Plan Review – Request by Pappas Development, LLC, for review of
a Concept Plan (Sketch Plan) for a proposed mixed-use project on a three-acre
site located along the east side of North Fourth Street between Locust Street
and Oak Street, commonly known as the Mooney Property.
John Pappas of Pappas Development in DeKalb stated he is proposing two
50,000 square foot buildings with 40 apartment units and about 6,500 square
feet of commercial space in each building. He stated there will be about 180
parking spaces provide on the site. He noted the apartments will be similar to
the Cornerstone and Plaza DeKalb projects.
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Principal Planner Olson stated the applicant is proposing a mixed-use project
on a three-acre site located along the east side of North Fourth Street between
Locust Street and Oak Street. He stated that the amenities will include a
hospitality room, fitness center, and outdoor terraces. He said the applicant
proposes to raze the former dealership building, mitigate known environmental
problems and construct two 4-story mixed-use buildings at about 50,000
square feet each. Principal Planner Olson pointed out the proposed Concept
Plan addresses many of the goals of the DeKalb City Center Plan and
Downtown Revitalization Plan in relation to enhancing the downtown area with
mixed-use developments and improving gateways into the downtown.
Principal Planner Olson said some initial site plan issues include parking, as
there are 177 parking stalls provided on the site and the estimated number of
required parking spaces, per the UDO, is about 212. He said there will be a
need for some parking relief as the applicant moves forward with the zoning
petition and as more detailed plans are developed. Principal Planner Olson
stated the parking demand would be further analyzed to ensure the project
would have enough spaces. He said full access points are proposed off North
Fourth Street and Oak Street and the plan reduces the number of access points
that currently exist. Principal Planner Olson noted an additional access should
be considered to Locust Street. He mentioned there was one Citizen Response
Form received from John Delano, of Delano’s Decorating, indicating his support
for the plan.
Principal Planner Olson advised the Commission this was a Concept Plan and
the applicant is anticipating re-zoning the site from the “LI” Light Industrial
District to the “PD-C” Planned Development – Commercial District if the project
moves forward. He said they will also be submitting engineering, landscaping,
and lighting plans. He stated the applicant appeared before the City Council
for TIF financing to assist in the redevelopment of the site. Principal Planner
Olson noted the estimated total project cost is $13,875,000 and the preliminary
TIF request is $3,000,000, or 21.6% of the project cost. He noted no vote was
taken; however, the Council’s consensus was to move forward with a
preliminary development incentive agreement with the developer.
Chair Doe opened for public comment.
Bessie Chronopoulos of 423 Gayle Avenue stated the City should be looking
into the Comprehensive Plan and she is not overly concerned about TIF
financing. She said the City should look at how this land should be developed
and to keep the use of the property as high quality as possible. She questioned
the need for more apartment units in DeKalb and stated she would like to see
how Cornerstone and Plaza DeKalb develop first before she would support this
project. Ms. Chronopoulos noted there are other buildings around the subject
site that should also be looked at for further development.
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John Morton of 721 North Ninth Street stated he feels the design is cold and
uninteresting and the open space area between the buildings would not receive
enough sunlight. He noted if the City will be tearing down a historic building,
the resulting project should be better, and he feels the proposed plan does not
provide that. He added the funds to construct the project will have to come
from the public and that the population of DeKalb has declined by about one
and a half percent from 2010 to 2016. Mr. Morton said taxpayers would fund
about a fifth of the cost of the project but would not receive any benefit. He
said he would like to hear about other opportunities for the site before agreeing
to the proposed use.
Dave Kolars of 623 Franklin Street suggested an artist’s cooperative in the City.
He said a building that is structurally sound should not be torn down without
knowing how much it would cost to be in compliance with EPA regulations. Mr.
Kolars said he wants to keep the existing structure before tearing it down for
something newer.
Steven Beckler stated he owns property on the northwest corner of North Sixth
and Locust Street. He said he likes the concept plan and does not mind that
TIF money will go towards the project. Mr. Beckler encouraged the City to look
at the surrounding properties and to expand this subject site’s reach and
improve the whole area.
Paul Sauser, property owner to the east of subject property on Locust Street,
noted the site is a huge eyesore and the previous user dumped sewer waste
into the Kishwaukee River, and the City did not do much about it. He said the
building is structurally sound but is not built to today’s standards. He asked
where the sewer is going to hook up to. He said he likes the project and noted
Mr. Pappas has been in the business for a long time and knows what he is
doing. Mr. Sauser said believes the Methodist Church will still be used as a
church and encouraged the City to move quickly before the developer leaves.
Mr. Pappas addressed the Commission regarding the need for this type of
housing. He noted Cornerstone has 51 units and has amenities such as private
parking and a hotel lobby. He noted he missed the leasing season with
Cornerstone; however, it was 50% leased in the first 60-90 days. Mr. Pappas
said after the holiday season, it was 100% occupied. He noted it was mostly
occupied by young professionals such as doctors or pharmacists and some
grad students. He said the surrounding properties downtown have not been
developed properly because of mismanagement of TIF funds. He said the
subject site (Mooney Property) has EPA issues and there are underground fuel
tanks on the property. Mr. Pappas said he has not looked at the surrounding
properties but believes there is a demand for this type of housing in DeKalb.
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Principal Planner Olson addressed the question of sewer hookups from Chair
Doe and noted the next step would involve the submittal of engineering plans
to be examined by the City Engineer.
Ms. Barbe said she likes the general concept and did not know about the
environmental problems of the property. She asked if these apartments would
be furnished. Mr. Pappas said it might be a 50/50 option. Ms. Barbe said she
agrees with Mr. Morton about the design and said it looked like a prison. She
said there should be more interest to the look of the buildings. Mr. Pappas said
the floor plan will remain the same but will try to change the exterior.
Mr. Castro asked what the known environmental issues were. Mr. Pappas said
he had an EPA report and it could involve millions of dollars in remediation
work, including underground tanks and asbestos. Mr. Castro requested that
when the project comes back, a list of environmental issues and a more
detailed history of the building be provided. Mr. Castro said he would like to
see redevelopment of old buildings but does not know if it is feasible with this
one. Mr. Pappas said because of the EPA issues with the building, he does
not want to redevelop the building. Principal Planner Olson said in the
downtown area the City encourages redevelopment of buildings, however it is
unfeasible in this case. Mr. Castro asked Mr. Pappas how much of his own
capital was he willing to invest. Mr. Pappas said he tested the market near NIU
for this type of housing before investing in Cornerstone and said there is a
proven market for it.
Mr. Castro said he heard from a DeKalb landlord that there was a surplus of
apartments. Mr. Pappas said there is a surplus of bedrooms, not units, and he
prefers to have 1-2 bedroom units rather than 3-4 bedroom units. Mr. Castro
said the main economic engine is the University, and asked Mr. Pappas if he
is investing in the University and believes it is moving in the right direction. Mr.
Pappas said he believes the University is moving in the right direction, but
currently apartment units are too expensive for what you receive and there is
no safety. He said he does not want to enter into the college student market
and is targeting young professionals instead.
Chair Doe stated the demand for a furnished, rented apartment by
professionals does exist. Mr. Pappas said there is still a market for this type of
housing unit in DeKalb.
Mr. Maxwell said he hates seeing historic buildings be torn down in favor of
redevelopment, but noted this plan makes sense as there were no previous
takers when the site was up for sale. He noted many people in their 20s and
30s do not want to own homes yet and there is a market for this type of rental
unit. Mr. Pappas said the TIF funding is restricted to TIF-eligible expenses,
including rectifying the EPA issues. Mr. Maxwell said there should be changes
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in the architectural design of the buildings, and Mr. Pappas concurred. Mr.
Maxwell applauded Mr. Pappas for investing in DeKalb.
Ms. Buckley said there needs to be change in the current architectural design.
She asked if there is a declining population because of the things to do in
DeKalb or because there are other things that draw people away. Mr. Pappas
said the college students leave on Thursdays and Fridays, which contributes
to the issue of people leaving DeKalb. Ms. Buckley noted businesses are
coming back to the downtown area, which could be the impetus for attracting
more people to the area. Mr. Pappas noted this market comes down to
disposable income, which there is less of today.
Chair Doe asked about parking and the proposed plan’s reduced parking.
Principal Planner Olson said there would have to be a waiver and justification
for providing less spaces than required in the UDO. Mr. Pappas said it’s not
likely to get more parking spaces, but he will take another look at it. Chair Doe
also agreed there needed to be a different architectural design to the buildings.
Chair Doe asked if there was any further public comment.
Mr. Sauser said the regulations for parking were too stringent in the past and
most of the parking lot was empty when the car dealer occupied the site. Mr.
Sauser said because of the property’s proximity to the downtown area, parking
is not going to be a huge issue.
Carolyn Morris of 1363 Omega Circle Drive said the Commission should not
encourage more parking beyond what is needed and would like to see more
open space in parking lots. She said there is no longer an emphasis on driving
and more of an emphasis on walking.
Chair Doe said the applicant needs to follow the UDO, but the applicant can
bring a variance request forward. Mr. Maxwell said there needs to be close
parking available to the proposed retail in the building.
Mr. Kolars stated the downtown area was a strong economic engine years ago,
but after Sycamore Road was developed, the downtown area no longer served
as that engine. He said there used to be more parking per block on the street.
He said there needs to be more clothing and food stores in the downtown area
and the area does not fulfill the needs of residents.
Martha Robinson of 955 South Sixth Street said the property should be
developed to generate more sales tax and to bring more people with disposable
income to the downtown area.
Ms. Chronopoulos said Mr. Pappas was correct in noting the TIF funds were
not used correctly, and the Sycamore Road area saw more investment in the
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past. She said the trends have led to the decline of the Sycamore Road area,
such as the decline of brick and mortar stores. She suggested building more
apartments similar to what is proposed. Ms. Chronopoulos noted the need to
have more discussions like this instead of pointing fingers and the Landmark
Commission needs to get involved in the review of the project.
Chair Doe said she likes to see people in the downtown area and feels the
downtown area is coming back.
F. REPORTS
Principal Planner Olson mentioned the next Planning and Zoning Commission
meeting will be Wednesday, June 5th, however no public hearings have been
scheduled. Mr. Olson handed out the updated Development Status Report to the
Commission.
G. ADJOURNMENT
Ms. Buckley motioned to adjourn, Mr. Maxwell seconded the motion, and the
motion was approved by unanimous voice vote. The meeting adjourned at 7:30
PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Christine Wang, Recording Secretary
Minutes were approved by the Planning and Zoning Commission on July 17, 2019.
Agenda
DeKalb Municipal Building
Council Chambers
200 S. Fourth St., 2nd Floor
DeKalb, IL 60115
AGENDA
Planning and Zoning Commission
May 22, 2019
6:00 PM
A. ROLL CALL
B. APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)
C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. April 3, 2019
D. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (Open Floor to Anyone Wishing to Speak on Record)
E. NEW BUSINESS
1. Concept Plan Review – Request by Pappas Development, LLC, for review of
a Concept Plan (Sketch Plan) for a proposed mixed-use project on a three-
acre site located along the east side of North 4th Street between Locust Street
and Oak Street, commonly known as the Mooney Property.
F. REPORTS
G. ADJOURNMENT
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT
STAFF REPORT
May 17, 2019
TO: DeKalb Planning and Zoning Commission
FROM: Dan Olson, Principal Planner
RE: Sketch Plan (Concept Plan) – Mooney Property
I. GENERAL INFORMATION
A. Purpose Review of a Sketch Plan (Concept Plan)
B. Location/Size East side of N. 4th St., between Oak St. and Locust
St./approx. 3.0 acres
C. Petitioner Pappas Development, LLC
D. Existing Zoning “LI” Light Industrial District
E. Existing Land Use Vacant Building, Automotive Body Repair
F. Proposed Land Use Two 4-story mixed-use buildings and associated
parking
G. Surrounding Zoning and Land Use North: RC-1, LI; Parking Lot, Single-Family
Residential, Two-Family Residential, VFW
South: CBD and LI; Church, Commercial, Park
East: LI; Various Commercial
West: CBD; Various Commercial
H. Comprehensive Plan Designation Commercial
II. BACKGROUND AND ANALYSIS
The applicant, Pappas Development LLC., is proposing a mixed-use project on a three-acre site
located along the east side of N. 4th Street between Locust Street and Oak Street, commonly
known as the Mooney property. On March 22, 2019, the applicant and property owner entered
into a 90-day purchase and sale agreement for the site. The three-month due diligence period
allows the applicant to determine if it is advantageous to proceed to a closing and the
redevelopment of the property. The subject site currently contains a building that was the home
to the former Mooney Chevrolet Car Dealership. The applicant proposes to raze the former
dealership building, mitigate known environmental problems, and construct two, 4-story mixed-
use buildings at 56,000 sq. ft each. Each building and will include 40 apartment units with 22
two-bedroom units and 18 one-bedroom units. There will be approximately 12,000 sq. ft. of total
ground level commercial space between the two buildings. Each building will include amenities
such as a hospitality room, fitness center and outdoor terraces. In addition, ten percent of the
apartment units will be handicap accessible.
The building has been vacant since 2012, when the dealership moved to Sycamore. The
dealership’s collision center remains on the site along Oak St. and would be demolished also.
The site is currently zoned “LI” Light Industrial and the 2005 Comprehensive Plan indicates
Commercial for the site. The proposed Concept Plan addresses many of the goals of the DeKalb
City Center Plan and Downtown Revitalization Plan in relation to enhancing the downtown area
with mixed-use developments and improving gateways into the downtown area. As the plan and
building architecture further develops, the recommendations from the 2011 Downtown Design
Guidelines will be looked upon for guidance. It’s anticipated the developer would seek Planned
Development zoning as they would go onto the next step in the process.
The Conceptual Plan shows parking for 177 parking stalls provided on the site. Based upon the
bedroom count and estimated gross square footage for commercial uses, the estimated number of
required parking spaces per the UDO would be about 212. There will be a need for some parking
relief as the applicant moves forward with the zoning petition and as more detailed plans are
developed. For commercial space, a net floor area is used for parking purposes and storage areas,
mechanical rooms and restrooms are not counted in the square footage calculation. In addition,
based upon the number of handicap accessible units and parking experience from the
Cornerstone development, there should be justification for a required parking reduction.
Full access points are proposed off N. 4th St. and Oak St. The proposed access locations are
adequate and will reduce the number of access points that currently exist. An additional access
should be considered to Locust St. Conceptual building renderings were provided and three
different options for the building’s colors were provided. Once the project moves forward, more
detailed plans would be required to be submitted including Landscaping and Lighting Plans as
well as Engineering Plans showing utility locations along with grading and stormwater details.
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On May 13, 2019, the City Council considered a request for the developer for TIF financing to
assist in the redevelopment of the site as proposed on the Concept Plan. The estimated project
cost is $13,875,000 and the preliminary TIF request is 3,000,000 or 21.6% of the project cost. No
vote was taken; however the Council’s consensus was to move forward with a preliminary
development incentive agreement with the developer. As a reminder to the Planning and Zoning
Commission, TIF financing is a decision by the City Council and is not under the purview of the
Commission.
The Unified Development Ordinance (UDO) allows for review by the Planning and Zoning
Commission of a Sketch Plan (Concept Plan) for any project intending to rezone to the Planned
Development category. The purpose of the Sketch Plan (Concept Plan) review is to allow the
applicant to present and explain the proposed improvements and let the Planning and Zoning
Commission and the public to ask questions and provide comments. There is no official action
being requested from the Commission, just feedback regarding the proposal. If the project goes
forward the applicant will be required to submit a re-zoning application, development plans and
other supporting documents to the City prior to any construction commencing on the property. A
public hearing would also be required in front of the Commission who would forward a
recommendation to the City Council for final action.
III. RECOMMENDATION
Review and provide comments to the applicant regarding the Sketch Plan (Concept Plan).
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Illinois Professional Design Firm No. 184-000848
May 9, 2019
Dear Property Owner:
The DeKalb Planning and Zoning Commission will consider a request by Pappas Development,
LLC for review of a Concept Plan (Sketch Plan) for a proposed mixed-use project on a 3 acre site
located along the east side of N. 4th Street between Locust Street and Oak Street, commonly known
as the Mooney property. The plan proposes the construction of two, 4-story mixed-use buildings
at 56,000 sq. ft each. Each building and will include 40 apartment units with 22 two-bedroom units
and 18 one-bedroom units and approximately 10,000 sq. ft. of ground level commercial space.
Each building will include amenities such as a hospitality room, fitness center and outdoor terraces.
The DeKalb Planning and Zoning Commission will review the Concept Plan at its regular meeting
on Wednesday, May 22, 2019 at 6:00 p.m. The meeting will be at the DeKalb Municipal Building,
200 South Fourth Street, DeKalb, Illinois. As a property owner within 250 feet of the above-
mentioned property, you are encouraged to attend this meeting to learn about and comment on the
proposal.
You may also submit written comments regarding the request on the enclosed comment sheet by
mail to the address listed above, or by e-mail to dan.olson@cityofdekalb.com. All comments will
be shared with the Commission. Also enclosed is an aerial photo of the site, Concept Plan, and an
architectural rendering of the buildings.
If you have any questions about this request, please feel free to contact the Community
Development Department at (815) 748-2361.
Sincerely,
Dan Olson
Principal Planner
Enclosures
CC: Mayor and City Council
City Manager
Planning and Zoning Commission
Mooney Property – Subject Site Aerial
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Mooney Property - Concept Plan and Color Rendering Options
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