Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingJoliet, IL · November 16, 2023
Minutes
150 West Jefferson Street
City of Joliet Joliet, IL 60432
Zoning Board of Appeals
Meeting Minutes
Board Members
Vincent Alessio
Ralph Bias
Ed Hennessy
Pat McShane
Bob Nachtrieb
Jim Riggs
Brigette Roehr
Thursday, November 16, 2023 2:00 PM City Hall, Council Chambers
Citizens who are unable to attend the meeting can email comments in advance of the meeting
to publiccomment@joliet.gov.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
Present Ed Hennessy, Bob Nachtrieb, Jim Riggs, Jim Riggs, Pat
McShane, Pat McShane and Ralph Bias
Absent Vincent Alessio, Vincent Alessio, Brigette Roehr and Brigette
Roehr
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
October 19, 2023 Zoning Board of Appeals Regular Meeting TMP-6612
Minutes
Attachments: 10-19-23 ZBA
A motion was made by Jim Riggs, seconded by Bob Nachtrieb, to approve the
October 19, 2023 Zoning Board of Appeals Regular Meeting Minutes. The
motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: Nachtrieb, Riggs, McShane and Bias
Abstain: Hennessy
CITIZENS TO BE HEARD ON AGENDA ITEMS
This section is for anyone wanting to speak regarding agenda items and are allowed a
maximum of 4 minutes. It is not a question and answer period and staff, and the Zoning
Board of Appeals members do not generally respond to public comments. The City Clerk has
a copy of the public speaking procedures; please note, speakers who engage in conduct
injurious to the harmony of the meeting shall be called to order by the Presiding Officer and
may forfeit the opportunity to speak.
OLD BUSINESS: PUBLIC HEARING
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During the Public Hearing, members of the public will be allowed to present evidence and ask
questions subject to the rules of the meeting.
PETITION 2023-63: A Special Use Permit to allow a used car TMP-6646
dealership, located at 1101 N. Broadway Street. (Council
District #4)
Attachments: ZBA 2023-63 (1101 N. Broadway) November Staff Report
Packet
Mr. Torri read the staff report into the record.
Chairman Hennessy swore in Mr. Abraham Garcia, 545 S. Canyon Drive,
Romeoville, IL. Mr. Garcia appeared in support of his petition. Mr. Garcia talked
about the site history, similar uses nearby and the proposed auto sales use at
his location. Mr. Garcia, Mr. Torri and board members discussed some concerns
with the site.
Chairman Hennessy swore in Ms. Georgene Williams, 811 Elizabeth Street,
Joliet, IL. Ms. Williams appeared in opposition to this petition. Ms. Williams
stated that she is against this petition because the site has already been used
as a auto sales business without approval and the petitioner did not follow
through with the landscaping requirement from the previous Special Use Permit
approval. Mr. Garcia responded to Ms. Williams' concerns. Mr. Bias asked if
there are other locations, Mr. Garcia answered that he has a location on Collins
Street in Joliet. Mr. Nachtrieb asked if the seller has to describe what the next
business use will be, Mr. Torri said there should be disclosure of the underlying
zoning and Special Use Permit approval.
Chairman Hennessy asked if there was anyone else who would like to speak on
behalf of this petition. No one came forward.
A motion was made by Jim Riggs, seconded by Bob Nachtrieb, to deny
PETITION 2023-63: A Special Use Permit to allow a used car dealership,
located at 1101 N. Broadway Street. (Council District #4). The motion carried by
the following vote:
Aye: Hennessy, Riggs and McShane
Nay: Nachtrieb
Abstain: Bias
NEW BUSINESS: PUBLIC HEARING
During the Public Hearing, members of the public will be allowed to present evidence and ask
questions subject to the rules of the meeting.
PETITION 2023-65: A Variation to increase maximum wall TMP-6645
height for a detached garage from 10 ft. to 17 ft., located at
1032 Elizabeth Street. (Council District #4)
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Attachments: ZBA 2023-65 (1032 Elizabeth Street) Staff Report Packet
Mr. Torri read the staff report into the record.
Chairman Hennessy swore in Mr. Thomas Ledwell, 1032 Elizabeth Street, Joliet,
IL. Mr. Ledwell appeared in support of his petition. Mr. Bias asked if the extra
space above the garage will be living space, Mr. Ledwell said no, Mr. Bias asked
what it will be used for, Mr. Ledwell said it is just a part of the garage.
Chairman Hennessy swore in Ms. Georgene Williams, 811 Elizabeth Street,
Joliet, IL. Ms. Williams appeared in opposition to this petition. Ms. Williams
believe the extra space above the garage will be converted to an apartment . Mr.
Ledwell responded that the space is just a attic. Mr. Torri explained that staff
never received plans that depicted the garage that was constructed. Mr. Ledwell
explained that he wanted to build a garage that was unique. Mr. Nachtrieb asked
if the second-story space could be used for storage, Mr. Torri replied only with a
variance.
Chairman Hennessy asked if any one else would like to speak on behlaf of this
petition. No one came forward.
A motion was made by Ralph Bias, seconded by Bob Nachtrieb, to approve
PETITION 2023-65: A Variation to increase maximum wall height for a detached
garage from 10 ft. to 17 ft., located at 1032 Elizabeth Street. (Council District
#4). The motion failed by the following vote:
Aye: Nachtrieb and Bias
Nay: Hennessy, Riggs and McShane
A motion was made by Jim Riggs, seconded by Bob Nachtrieb, to deny
PETITION 2023-65: A Variation to increase maximum wall height for a detached
garage from 10 ft. to 17 ft., located at 1032 Elizabeth Street. (Council District
#4). The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: Hennessy, Riggs and McShane
Nay: Nachtrieb and Bias
PETITION 2023-66: A Special Use Permit to allow TMP-6642
construction of a new automatic car wash, located at 1351
Illinois Route 59. (Council District #3)
Attachments: ZBA 2023-66 (1351 Route 59) Staff Report Packet
Mr. Torri read the staff report into the record.
Chairman Hennessy swore in Mr. Brad Odanick, Tidal Wave Auto Spa. Mr.
Odanick appeared in support of this petition. Mr. Odanick gave a brief overview
of the Tidal Wave Auto Spa company. Mr. Bias asked if the car wash water is
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recycled, Mr. Odanick said yes.
Chairman Hennessy asked if any one else would like to speak on behalf of this
petition. No one came forward.
A motion was made by Ralph Bias, seconded by Jim Riggs, to approve
PETITION 2023-66: A Special Use Permit to allow construction of a new
automatic car wash, located at 1351 Illinois Route 59. (Council District #3). The
motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: Hennessy, Nachtrieb, Riggs, McShane and Bias
OLD/NEW BUSINESS—NOT FOR FINAL ACTION OR RECOMMENDATION
PUBLIC COMMENT
This section is for anyone wanting to speak regarding non-agenda items and are allowed a
maximum of 4 minutes. It is not a question and answer period and staff, and the Zoning
Board of Appeals members do not generally respond to public comments. The City Clerk has
a copy of the public speaking procedures; please note, speakers who engage in conduct
injurious to the harmony of the meeting shall be called to order by the Presiding Officer and
may forfeit the opportunity to speak.
ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made by Jim Riggs, seconded by Pat McShane, to adjourn the meeting. The
motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: Hennessy, Nachtrieb, Riggs, McShane and Bias
This meeting will be held in an accessible location. If you need a reasonable accommodation, please contact Christa M.
Desiderio, City Clerk, 150 West Jefferson Street, Joliet, Illinois 60432 at (815) 724-3780.
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Agenda
City of Joliet
Zoning Board of Appeals
Meeting Agenda
Board Members
Vincent Alessio
Ralph Bias
Ed Hennessy
Pat McShane
Bob Nachtrieb
Jim Riggs
Brigette Roehr
Thursday, November 16, 2023 2:00 PM City Hall, Council Chambers
Citizens who are unable to attend the meeting can email comments in advance of the meeting
to publiccomment@joliet.gov.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
October 19, 2023 Zoning Board of Appeals Regular Meeting Minutes
Attachments: 10-19-23 ZBA
CITIZENS TO BE HEARD ON AGENDA ITEMS
This section is for anyone wanting to speak regarding agenda items and are allowed a
maximum of 4 minutes. It is not a question and answer period and staff, and the Zoning
Board of Appeals members do not generally respond to public comments. The City Clerk has
a copy of the public speaking procedures; please note, speakers who engage in conduct
injurious to the harmony of the meeting shall be called to order by the Presiding Officer and
may forfeit the opportunity to speak.
OLD BUSINESS: PUBLIC HEARING
During the Public Hearing, members of the public will be allowed to present evidence and ask
questions subject to the rules of the meeting.
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Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting Agenda November 16, 2023
PETITION 2023-63: A Special Use Permit to allow a used car dealership,
located at 1101 N. Broadway Street. (Council District #4)
Attachments: ZBA 2023-63 (1101 N. Broadway) November Staff Report
Packet
NEW BUSINESS: PUBLIC HEARING
During the Public Hearing, members of the public will be allowed to present evidence and ask
questions subject to the rules of the meeting.
PETITION 2023-65: A Variation to increase maximum wall height for a detached
garage from 10 ft. to 17 ft., located at 1032 Elizabeth Street. (Council District #4)
Attachments: ZBA 2023-65 (1032 Elizabeth Street) Staff Report Packet
PETITION 2023-66: A Special Use Permit to allow construction of a new
automatic car wash, located at 1351 Illinois Route 59. (Council District #3)
Attachments: ZBA 2023-66 (1351 Route 59) Staff Report Packet
OLD/NEW BUSINESS—NOT FOR FINAL ACTION OR RECOMMENDATION
PUBLIC COMMENT
This section is for anyone wanting to speak regarding non-agenda items and are allowed a
maximum of 4 minutes. It is not a question and answer period and staff, and the Zoning
Board of Appeals members do not generally respond to public comments. The City Clerk has
a copy of the public speaking procedures; please note, speakers who engage in conduct
injurious to the harmony of the meeting shall be called to order by the Presiding Officer and
may forfeit the opportunity to speak.
ADJOURNMENT
This meeting will be held in an accessible location. If you need a reasonable accommodation, please contact Christa M.
Desiderio, City Clerk, 150 West Jefferson Street, Joliet, Illinois 60432 at (815) 724-3780.
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