Jensen-Olson Arboretum Advisory Board (Sunset Date 5/31/2023)
Regular MeetingJuneau, AK · January 8, 2020
Minutes
MINUTES
JENSEN-OLSON ARBORETUM ADVISORY BOARD
Mendenhall Valley Library, Conference Room │Wednesday, January 8, 2020 5:15 P.M.
I. Call to Order at 5:19 pm by Chair, Nell McConahey
Present: Kristin Bartlett, Ed Buyarski, Rose Evans, Peter Froehlich (t), Patricia Harris, Nell McConahey
Absent: Deborah Rudis
Staff Present: Merrill Jensen, Arboretum Manager; Michele Elfers, Deputy Director; Lauren Verrelli, Staff Liaison
II. Agenda Changes – None.
III. Public Participation on Non-Agenda Items – None.
IV. Approval of Minutes – None.
V. New Business –
A. Subcommittee Meeting with Finance Director Update
N. McConahey: We had a great discussion with the new finance director on what the
Arboretum is about, where the investments are and the possibilities of changing it. He is
open to whatever the board wishes to do with the endowment. If there were any
emergency repairs, it would not come from the Endowment; it would come from CBJ funds.
M. Elfers: We prioritize things based on safety and functionality; if you want to have other
funds to do building improvement and repairs that might not be prioritized, you can use the
withheld funds. We do need to discuss with our Finance Department about what would
happen to the unused funds at the end of the FY since they cannot roll over to the next FY.
E. Buyarski: Can we put any remaining funds that are not spent throughout the year back
into the endowment?
M. Elfers: We will have to talk to finance about that and get back to the board.
VI. Unfinished Business –
A. Arboretum Commercial Use Comments
M. Elfers: The department is working on updating our commercial use regulations and
the draft version is currently out for public comment until January 15. Ideally the
commercial use regulation will be the umbrella and framework for the department and
then underneath that a policy for the Arboretum. In the new proposed regulations, we
clearly state that nonprofit groups can perform commercial activity and receive permits.
It is not recommended to separate uses by non-profit vs. profit; the reason we are doing
this department wide is because do have a lot of activity by nonprofits that is for profit
that we need to permit. Another thing to consider is the impact to the property, which
can results in costs such as emptying trashcans, staff attention, etc. There is currently
various types of commercial use happening at the arboretum (ex: taxi drivers &
photography). We are creating a new type of commercial use, vehicle-based tours and
transportation that would fit in well for the Arboretum.
E. Buyarski: What about vending at the Arboretum? In the past, I sold plants at the
Arboretum and gave the Arboretum a portion of the sales.
M. Elfers: We could allow vending but add stipulations on intent and the benefits to the
Arboretum. Lastly, there is photography as a type of commercial use, which is an activity
that happens frequently at the Arboretum. Do we want to permit professional and
amateur photographers?
M. Jensen: The photography is one that we need to address since we have many
professional photographers that come out. In the past year or so, we have been talking
to them and they are open to being charged to shoot at the Arboretum. The draft
regulation calling out the Arboretum currently reads that you cannot be a professional or
amateur photographer without having a permit. How do we determine if an amateur is
JOAAB Minutes 1.8.20
selling their pictures? We do see engagement, family and wedding photography at least
once a week.
N. McConahey: What if we remove this line in the draft regulation about the Arboretum?
M. Elfers: Then no one would need a permit at the Arboretum unless they have a set and
props, which would make them commercial. With including amateur, if we do not catch
them during the act but we see stuff around town, then we can contact them and
penalize them. Are you all okay with the way it is written in the regulation?
N. McConahey: Let us keep it in there for now and we can have specifics in the
Arboretum policy.
M. Jensen: How do we handle the commercial use fees and how does it get into the
endowment?
M. Elfers: In the Arboretum Administrative Agreement (1993), it states that all net
proceeds from commercial activity should be put into the support fund and used to
support and expand the Arboretum. All commercial funds will go into the endowment.
How does the board feel about vehicle-based tours?
P. Froehlich: I think it is okay but we should have a limit per day.
K. Bartlett: How do we regulate Uber & Lyft drivers? If the driver is not in the habit of
going out there, gets a request and does not have a permit? How do we handle that?
M. Elfers: That is a good question. They would be handled similar to taxis.
M. Jensen: For internal guided tours that we charge for? How does that work?
M. Elfers: It is a service provided by the facility so it would be outside of commercial
activity. What about guided tours by another company (including local kid groups)?
M. Jensen: Discovery SE does come out multiple times a summer.
M. Elfers: Their intent aligns with the Arboretum, they could get a permit and have fees
waived possibly. I will work on reworking the Administrative Supplemental No. 2 and will
try to get this ready for the board to review in the coming months.
VII. Committee Liaison and Staff Reports
A. Chair Report: None.
B. Manager’s Report: Included in packet.
C. Friends of JOA –
P. Harris: Raised $5,000 from the raffle; assisting in Merrill’s First Friday Show at
Centennial Hal. They have 98 annual members and 32 lifers.
D. Other business— We have two vacant seats on the board.
Adjournment – 6:53p.m. Having no further business before the Board.
Respectfully submitted by Lauren Verrelli, Recreation & Public Services Manager, 8/11/2020.
JOAAB Minutes 1.8.20
Agenda
JENSEN-0 LSO N
ARBORETUM JUNE AU, ALASKA
A CITY & BOROUG H OF JUNEAU PA RKS & R ECR EATION FACI LI TY
AGENDA
JENSEN-OLSON ARBORETUM ADVISORY BOARD
Mendenhall Valley Library, Conference Room
Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 5:15 P.M.
I. Call to Order
II. Approval of Agenda
III. Public Participation on Non-Agenda Items
IV. Approval of Minutes
A. Wednesday, November 6, 2019
V. New Business
A. Subcommittee Meeting with Finance Director Update
VI. Unfinished Business
A. Arboretum Commercial Use Comments
VII. Committee, Liaison, and/or Staff Reports
A. Chair Report – N. McConahey
B. Manager Report – M. Jensen
C. Friends of JOA Report – P. Harris
D. Other Business
VIII. Adjournment
Next JOAB Meeting: Wednesday, May 13 at 5:15 Mendenhall Library
Packet
JENSEN-0 LSO N
ARBORETUM JUNE AU, ALASKA
A CITY & BOROUG H OF JUNEAU PA RKS & R ECR EATION FACI LI TY
AGENDA
JENSEN-OLSON ARBORETUM ADVISORY BOARD
Mendenhall Valley Library, Conference Room
Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 5:15 P.M.
I. Call to Order
II. Approval of Agenda
III. Public Participation on Non-Agenda Items
IV. Approval of Minutes
A. Wednesday, November 6, 2019
V. New Business
A. Subcommittee Meeting with Finance Director Update
VI. Unfinished Business
A. Arboretum Commercial Use Comments
VII. Committee, Liaison, and/or Staff Reports
A. Chair Report – N. McConahey
B. Manager Report – M. Jensen
C. Friends of JOA Report – P. Harris
D. Other Business
VIII. Adjournment
Next JOAB Meeting: Wednesday, May 13 at 5:15 Mendenhall Library
MINUTES
JENSEN-OLSON ARBORETUM ADVISORY BOARD
Mendenhall Valley Library, Conference Room │Wednesday, January 8, 2020 5:15 P.M.
I. Call to Order at 5:19 pm by Chair, Nell McConahey
Present: Kristin Bartlett, Ed Buyarski, Rose Evans, Peter Froehlich (t), Patricia Harris, Nell McConahey
Absent: Deborah Rudis
Staff Present: Merrill Jensen, Arboretum Manager; Michele Elfers, Deputy Director; Lauren Verrelli, Staff Liaison
II. Agenda Changes – None.
III. Public Participation on Non-Agenda Items – None.
IV. Approval of Minutes – None.
V. New Business –
A. Subcommittee Meeting with Finance Director Update
N. McConahey: We had a great discussion with the new finance director on what the
Arboretum is about, where the investments are and the possibilities of changing it. He is
open to whatever the board wishes to do with the endowment. If there were any
emergency repairs, it would not come from the Endowment; it would come from CBJ funds.
M. Elfers: We prioritize things based on safety and functionality; if you want to have other
funds to do building improvement and repairs that might not be prioritized, you can use the
withheld funds. We do need to discuss with our Finance Department about what would
happen to the unused funds at the end of the FY since they cannot roll over to the next FY.
E. Buyarski: Can we put any remaining funds that are not spent throughout the year back
into the endowment?
M. Elfers: We will have to talk to finance about that and get back to the board.
VI. Unfinished Business –
A. Arboretum Commercial Use Comments
M. Elfers: The department is working on updating our commercial use regulations and
the draft version is currently out for public comment until January 15. Ideally the
commercial use regulation will be the umbrella and framework for the department and
then underneath that a policy for the Arboretum. In the new proposed regulations, we
clearly state that nonprofit groups can perform commercial activity and receive permits.
It is not recommended to separate uses by non-profit vs. profit; the reason we are doing
this department wide is because do have a lot of activity by nonprofits that is for profit
that we need to permit. Another thing to consider is the impact to the property, which
can results in costs such as emptying trashcans, staff attention, etc. There is currently
various types of commercial use happening at the arboretum (ex: taxi drivers &
photography). We are creating a new type of commercial use, vehicle-based tours and
transportation that would fit in well for the Arboretum.
E. Buyarski: What about vending at the Arboretum? In the past, I sold plants at the
Arboretum and gave the Arboretum a portion of the sales.
M. Elfers: We could allow vending but add stipulations on intent and the benefits to the
Arboretum. Lastly, there is photography as a type of commercial use, which is an activity
that happens frequently at the Arboretum. Do we want to permit professional and
amateur photographers?
M. Jensen: The photography is one that we need to address since we have many
professional photographers that come out. In the past year or so, we have been talking
to them and they are open to being charged to shoot at the Arboretum. The draft
regulation calling out the Arboretum currently reads that you cannot be a professional or
amateur photographer without having a permit. How do we determine if an amateur is
JOAAB Minutes 1.8.20
selling their pictures? We do see engagement, family and wedding photography at least
once a week.
N. McConahey: What if we remove this line in the draft regulation about the Arboretum?
M. Elfers: Then no one would need a permit at the Arboretum unless they have a set and
props, which would make them commercial. With including amateur, if we do not catch
them during the act but we see stuff around town, then we can contact them and
penalize them. Are you all okay with the way it is written in the regulation?
N. McConahey: Let us keep it in there for now and we can have specifics in the
Arboretum policy.
M. Jensen: How do we handle the commercial use fees and how does it get into the
endowment?
M. Elfers: In the Arboretum Administrative Agreement (1993), it states that all net
proceeds from commercial activity should be put into the support fund and used to
support and expand the Arboretum. All commercial funds will go into the endowment.
How does the board feel about vehicle-based tours?
P. Froehlich: I think it is okay but we should have a limit per day.
K. Bartlett: How do we regulate Uber & Lyft drivers? If the driver is not in the habit of
going out there, gets a request and does not have a permit? How do we handle that?
M. Elfers: That is a good question. They would be handled similar to taxis.
M. Jensen: For internal guided tours that we charge for? How does that work?
M. Elfers: It is a service provided by the facility so it would be outside of commercial
activity. What about guided tours by another company (including local kid groups)?
M. Jensen: Discovery SE does come out multiple times a summer.
M. Elfers: Their intent aligns with the Arboretum, they could get a permit and have fees
waived possibly. I will work on reworking the Administrative Supplemental No. 2 and will
try to get this ready for the board to review in the coming months.
VII. Committee Liaison and Staff Reports
A. Chair Report: None.
B. Manager’s Report: Included in packet.
C. Friends of JOA –
P. Harris: Raised $5,000 from the raffle; assisting in Merrill’s First Friday Show at
Centennial Hal. They have 98 annual members and 32 lifers.
D. Other business— We have two vacant seats on the board.
Adjournment – 6:53p.m. Having no further business before the Board.
Respectfully submitted by Lauren Verrelli, Recreation & Public Services Manager, 8/11/2020.
JOAAB Minutes 1.8.20