Ad Hoc Audit Committee
Regular MeetingLansing, MI · April 7, 2025
Minutes
MINUTES
Committee on Municipal Audit
Monday, April 7, 2025 @ 4:00 p.m.
City Council Conference Room
CALL TO ORDER
Council Member Spadafore called the meeting to order at 4:00pm
PRESENT
Council Member Peter Spadafore, Chair
Council Member Tamera Carter, Vice-Chair
Council Member Trini Pehlivanoglu, Member
OTHERS PRESENT
Renee Richmond, Council Administrative Assistant
Charles Randall, Internal Auditor
Lisa Hagen-Lawrence, OCA
MINUTES
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM MARCH 10,
2025 AS PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED 3-0.
PUBLIC COMMENT.
Discussion/Action
Continued Discussion on a Defined Annual Audit Plan – Internal Auditor
Overview
Mr. Randall began with the Overview and informed the Committee on his progress of working
with the DLI Board and external audit, getting ready to draft a report. Councilmember Spadafore
asked about the DLI Board external audit, Mr. Randall stated it is combined with the City, it goes
through BS&A. Mr. Randall explained he has looked through a few grants/reports.
Councilmember Carter noted some public comments at the Council meeting on grant funding,
asking if there were any discrepancy in grants measured or distributed on who received the funds.
Mr. Randall referenced a more detailed grant auditing he has called Yellow Book, it is used to
verify the use of the grant spending, and confirming funds were distributed in a timely manner.
Mr. Randall noted he’s been reviewing the last three years’ budgets to identify what might stand
out and councilmembers might not see. Councilmember Spadafore indicated while budget
happens it is possibly some amendments might happen, and he may get asked to help write or
work with the Councilmember. Mr. Randall mentioned last year’s budget there were requests
from Council for reports and asked for dates. Councilmember Spadafore responded they can
request by a certain date but cannot order/mandate. Councilmember Pehlivanoglu asked if
reports are requested from the administration, is it followed up by the Internal Auditor or Council
Leadership. Councilmember Spadafore suggested the IA provide leadership a list of outstanding
reports.
Mr. Randall confirmed he presented at the Charter Commission and made some suggestions and
recommendations for maybe some fine-tuning language.
Planned Audits
Mr. Randall noted he hasn’t had a lot of time to look at them, there are 75 BS&A email user
accounts, and BS&A automatically deletes after a certain time. Councilmember Spadafore asked
if he has full access, Mr. Randall confirmed, also noted he isn’t far into journal entries and that
there might be separate access.
Mr. Randall spoke on the DLI audit and stated it should be quick, as well as the timekeeping audit.
Continuing he will draft a report and give it to Cathleen to review as well as the Committee. He
added that LEPFA has not signed the RFP yet. Councilmember Spadafore asked if the board
voted on it, and Mr. Randall answered no.
Councilmember Spadafore asked if the spreadsheet is just where he is on projects, Mr. Randall
confirmed. Councilmember Spadafore asked the Committee to review what is in the charter for
the Internal Auditor position and bring possible recommendations for the next meeting.
Other
Adjourn
Adjourned at 4:23pm
Submitted by Renee Richmond
Recording Secretary, Lansing City Council
Approved by the Committee on May 5, 2025
Agenda
AGENDA
Committee on Municipal Audit
April 7, 2025 at 4:00 PM
Lansing City Hall, City Council Conference Room
124 W. Michigan Avenue, 10th Floor
To provide input or ask questions on any item that is listed on the agenda,
members of the public may contact the City Council at city.council@lansingmi.gov or (517) 483-4177 prior to the meeting.
To view the meeting live and participate in virtual public comment: https://www.lansingmi.gov/1212/Council-Committee-Meetings
Council Member Spadafore, Chairperson
Council Member Carter, Vice Chairperson
Council Member Pehlivanoglu, Member
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Minutes
A. March 10, 2025
4. Public Comment on Agenda Items (Up to 3 Minutes)
5. Discussion/Action:
B. Continued Discussion on a Defined Annual Audit Plan - Internal Auditor
6. Other
7. Adjourn
Persons with disabilities who need an accommodation to fully participate in these meetings should contact the City
Council Office at 517-483-4177 (TTY 711) 24 hour notice may be needed for certain accommodations. An attempt
will be made to grant all reasonable accommodation requests.
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AGENDA
Committee on Municipal Audit
April 7, 2025 at 4:00 PM
Lansing City Hall, City Council Conference Room
124 W. Michigan Avenue, 10th Floor
To provide input or ask questions on any item that is listed on the agenda,
members of the public may contact the City Council at city.council@lansingmi.gov or (517) 483-4177 prior to the meeting.
To view the meeting live and participate in virtual public comment: https://www.lansingmi.gov/1212/Council-Committee-Meetings
Council Member Spadafore, Chairperson
Council Member Carter, Vice Chairperson
Council Member Pehlivanoglu, Member
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Minutes
A. March 10, 2025
4. Public Comment on Agenda Items (Up to 3 Minutes)
5. Discussion/Action:
B. Continued Discussion on a Defined Annual Audit Plan - Internal Auditor
6. Other
7. Adjourn
Persons with disabilities who need an accommodation to fully participate in these meetings should contact the City
Council Office at 517-483-4177 (TTY 711) 24 hour notice may be needed for certain accommodations. An attempt
will be made to grant all reasonable accommodation requests.
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MINUTES
Committee on Municipal Audit
Monday, March 10, 2025 @ 4:00 p.m.
City Council Conference Room
CALL TO ORDER
Council Member Spadafore called the meeting to order at 4:03pm
PRESENT
Council Member Peter Spadafore, Chair
Council Member Tamera Carter, Vice-Chair
Council Member Trini Pehlivanoglu, Member
OTHERS PRESENT
Renee Richmond, Council Administrative Assistant
Charles Randall, Internal Auditor
Lisa Hagen-Lawrence, OCA
MINUTES
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM DECEMBER
9, 2024 AS PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED 3-0.
PUBLIC COMMENT.
No public present.
Discussion/Action
Continued Discussion on a Defined Annual Audit Plan – Internal Auditor
Mr. Randall stated that BS&A has been a challenge and requested additional access. He spoke
on the payroll and timekeeping aspect learning of the approval process. Invoices and timesheets
are different and different approval levels but overall is going well. Explaining that if over a certain
dollar amount then it goes to Desiree for approval. He is checking invoice making sure correct
amount and accounts which seem to have proper approval. Has started the timekeeping process
for police and fire departments but not completely auditable yet, they just started the new system
in January.
Councilmember Spadafore asked regarding LPD & LFD they started new timesheet this calendar
year. Mr. Randall said they were not in system until January, they have a different process
because they rely on scheduling and fall back on that for approvals. LPD could work 100 hours
one week and 10 the next, but over a 6-week period they would average 40 hours a week per
Chief Backus.
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Councilmember Carter inquired about LFD, is he able to audit prior to BS&A. Mr. Randall
responded he met with the gentleman who inputs the data, they still can’t import to BS&A so has
to be manual. Similar to LPD with scheduling.
Councilmember Spadafore asked when he anticipates the timekeeping done, Mr. Randall
answered May is expected.
Councilmember Pehlivanoglu said looking at the chart and process outline, what is the
approximate of timeline days/months/weeks for the phases process. Mr. Randall mentioned
generally an auditor is 1/3 planning, 1/3 field work, and 1/3 reporting.
Councilmember Spadafore asked Mr. Randall to walk through the action items. Mr. Randall
stated he received a request from a Councilmember to look at the Ovation and Lansing Public
Media Authority. This look more on construction and time specifically material changes in people,
processes and systems are looked for to flag an audit. Also had a request for the new Public
Service Complex and eventually City Hall. He will audit and monitor their project management,
making sure meetings are occurring and discussions about progress are being made.
Mr. Randall added DLI was a request as well, it is complex on what is and isn’t public, then there
is the shopping district. They’ve received some grants and there is a tax on areas of the shopping
district. He has had meetings with DLI and went to board meetings, currently making sure that
compliance is checked. Councilmember Spadafore confirmed he wanted action items 1 and 2
added, Mr. Randall confirmed.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER TO ADD ACTION ITEM #2 PERFORMANCE AUDIT
OF DOWNTOWN LANSING INC. TO THE PLANNED AUDITS FOR THE INTERNAL AUDITOR.
MOTION CARRIED 3-0.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER TO ADD ACTION ITEM #1 ONGOING AUDIT OF
PROJECT MANAGEMETN/MONITORING PROCEDURES FOR BUILDING OF OVATION,
PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX AND CITY HALL TO THE PLANNED AUDITS FOR THE
INTERNAL AUDITOR. MOTION CARRIED 3-0.
Councilmember Spadafore asked Mr. Randall to talk about action item #3. Mr. Randall stated he
wasn’t sure whom to speak to about the auditor budget, Councilmember Spadafore indicated
Leadership, but the Committee can add input as well. Mr. Randall noted other things he is looking
at is IT Systems, and timekeeping is so large that it should be reoccurring maybe every 6 months.
Concluding he was asked by the Charter Commission for a presentation on the Internal Auditor
section and a councilmember asked that he bring in public for feedback that’s out of the scope of
an Internal Auditor.
Other
Adjourn
Adjourned at 4:24pm
Submitted by Renee Richmond
Recording Secretary, Lansing City Council
Approved by the Committee on
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CITY OF LANSING
INTERNAL AUDITOR
124 W MICHIGAN AVE FL 10
LANSING MI 48933-1605
(517) 483-4159
Department Status Report: March 2025
Date: April 7, 2025
To: Committee on Municipal Audit
From: Charles H Randall, Internal Auditor
Overview
Performed fieldwork and follow up testing of DLI. Documenting in workpapers and drafting
report.
Budget review has taken significant time. Started March 17th, the week after last meeting by
collecting and reviewing old audit reports and budgets.
Presented to Charter Commission observations of current City Charter Internal Audit section
and recommendations based upon 29 years of personal experience.
Planned Audits
2025-01 & 2025-02 Implementation Audit BS&A – AP and Timekeeping: Test of Internal
Control Design – Application Security (Role based) - Mapped user role assignments, verified
process change and administration access rights. Resulted in review of inactive users accounts
in administration roles.
2025-03 Internal Controls Audit Downtown Lansing Partnership, Inc. – Performed Field
Work (Gate 11 – Workpapers and Draft Issues) to collect and review audit evidence and
perform on-site interviews. Tested BS&A AP Invoices. Wrapping up workpapers and drafting
report. Currently, no issues noted.
Inherent Duties
Ways & Means – 2 meetings with 5 memos; 3 Grant and 2 Sole Source. Toured WWTP
and attended Board of Public Service meeting.
Claims Review Committee - 1 Meeting
LEPFA – 2 Meeting – Continued RFP work
Council Expenses – Rolled Feb activity into workbook for YTD spend monitoring
Budget Review
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CITY OF LANSING
INTERNAL AUDITOR
124 W MICHIGAN AVE FL 10
LANSING MI 48933-1605
(517) 483-4159
Ad-Hoc Audit Activity
Charter Commission presentation of Internal Audit section - April 1
Action Items
1. Quarterly Council Member budget to actual reports
2. Ongoing Budget items
3. Wrap-up DLI workpapers and draft report
4. Test BS&A implementation samples
5. Collect understanding of construction project management process.
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City of Lansing
Internal Audit Department
Project Status Report
March 2025
Phase Planning Fieldwork / Testing Reporting Monitor / Follow -up
Gate 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
Fieldwork Testing Finalize
Audit Planning Audit Notification Planning Meeting Draft Process Draft Audit Fieldwork / Opening Meeting Detailed Process Final Audit workpapers / Fieldwork Closing Workpapers & Reporting Exit Audit Issue Status Audit Issue
Deliverable Document Letter Outline Audit Plan Agenda Documentation Program Testing Prep Agenda Documentation Program Draft issues Meeting Agenda Issues Draft Audit Report Meeting Agenda Final Audit Report Report Closing Report
Project # Project Name
2025-01 BS&A Imp - AP
2025-02 BS&A Imp - Timekeeping
2025-03 Internal Controls - DLI
2025-04 Proj Mg - Ovation
2025-05 Proj Mg - Public Safety
2025-06 Proj Mg - City Hall
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