Ad Hoc on Homelessness and Solutions
Regular MeetingLansing, MI · June 27, 2023
Minutes
MINUTES
Ad Hoc on Homelessness & Solutions
Tuesday, June 27, 2023 @ 3:30 p.m.
City Council Conference Room, 10th Floor City Hall
CALL TO ORDER
Council Member Brown called the meeting to order at 3:32 pm
PRESENT
Council Member Jeffrey Brown, Chair
Council Member Adam Hussain, Vice-Chair
Council Member Patricia Spitzley, Member
OTHERS PRESENT
Sherrie Boak, Council Office Manager
Matt Staples, OCA
Council Member Kost
Belinda Fitzpatrick
Laura Purchase
Cathleen Edgerly, DLI
Toni Young, HRCS
Joseph MacDonald, HRCS
Norma Bauer
MINUTES
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUSSAIN TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JUNE 13, 2023 AS
PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED 3-0.
Public Comment
Ms. Fitzpatrick spoke in opposition to Code Compliance doing inspections without search warrants.
Ms. Purchase spoke on behalf of Ms. Fitzpatrick’s housing situation and animal control conflict with her
pets.
DISCUSSION/ACTION
Discussion on Committee Recommendations and Reporting
The Committee looked at the documents from the Ad Hoc on Housing from 2022 as templates and
boilerplates for their reporting.
The Committee discussed on expectations including recommendations, policies, recommendations to
State and neighboring agencies.
Council Member Spitzley reviewed the 2022 bullet points and asked the Committee to consider
reviewing this Committee minutes from 2023 for topics. She also asked testimony from the
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administration on what they are already doing for homelessness moving forwards. If this Committee
makes recommendations they can advise if things are already being done or if some of the
recommendations cannot be done. Council Member Brown stated the administration was invited and
were not able to attend and asked for a list of questions in advance for them to respond and not attend.
Council Member Hussain stated it needs to go to the Mayor to instruct them to attend, and if it is clear
that the department is not willing to attend. Council Member Brown will follow up with Ms. Richmond
and forward that to the Mayor’s office for participation in the process. Council Member Hussain asked
Council Member Brown to review the minutes and topics to consider. Ms. Boak asked if they wanted
handouts from all residents
Council Member Hussain asked to invite to the July 11th meeting and if they cannot attend that one,
then have a special meeting so they can all attend. Council Member Spitzley and Brown concurred.
The Committee asked to invite departments that address the warming centers, HRCS, EDP staff that
handles the programs (Barb Kimmel and Doris Witherspoon) to address homelessness, Neighborhoods
and Citizen Engagement, and EDP for housing. Council Member Hussain reiterated a bullet list from
the minutes, and Council Member Brown stated he could have it turned around quickly and get back to
Committee.
OTHER
It was reiterated to the Committee that the Budget Priorities are due October 1st, and Council Member
Brown chose 9/11.
Council Member Spitzley referenced a resolution that was done in 2022 and proposed a possibility of
doing a resolution again this year from this Committee.
Public Comment
Ms. Bauer spoke on a housing situation that was brought to her attention on possible discrepancies
with housing benefits for different individuals in the same units and spoke in support of Statewide rent
control.
ADJOURN
Adjourned at 3:57 pm
Submitted by,
Sherrie Boak, Recording Secretary
Lansing City Council
Approved by the Committee on July 11, 2023
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Agenda
AGENDA
AD HOC on Homelessness & Solutions
AGENDA FOR JUNE 27, 2023 AT 3:30 PM
Lansing City Hall, City Council Conference Room
124 W. Michigan Avenue, 10th Floor
To provide input or ask questions on any item that is listed on the agenda,
members of the public may contact the City Council at city.council@lansingmi.gov or (517) 483-4177 prior to the meeting.
view on: https://www.youtube.com/@lansingcitycouncil4446/streams
Council Member Brown, Chairperson
Council Member Hussain, Vice Chairperson
Council Member Spitzley, Member
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Minutes
A. June 13, 2023
4. Discussion/Action:
B. DISCUSSION - Review of all minutes for Committee Recommendations and
Reporting
5. Public Comment on Agenda Items (Up to 2 Minutes)
6. Other
7. Adjourn
Persons with disabilities who need an accommodation to fully participate in these meetings should contact the City
Council Office at 517-483-4177 (TTY 711) 24 hour notice may be needed for certain accommodations. An attempt
will be made to grant all reasonable accommodation requests.
Packet
AGENDA
AD HOC on Homelessness & Solutions
AGENDA FOR JUNE 27, 2023 AT 3:30 PM
Lansing City Hall, City Council Conference Room
124 W. Michigan Avenue, 10th Floor
To provide input or ask questions on any item that is listed on the agenda,
members of the public may contact the City Council at city.council@lansingmi.gov or (517) 483-4177 prior to the meeting.
view on: https://www.youtube.com/@lansingcitycouncil4446/streams
Council Member Brown, Chairperson
Council Member Hussain, Vice Chairperson
Council Member Spitzley, Member
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Minutes
A. June 13, 2023
4. Discussion/Action:
B. DISCUSSION - Review of all minutes for Committee Recommendations and
Reporting
5. Public Comment on Agenda Items (Up to 2 Minutes)
6. Other
7. Adjourn
Persons with disabilities who need an accommodation to fully participate in these meetings should contact the City
Council Office at 517-483-4177 (TTY 711) 24 hour notice may be needed for certain accommodations. An attempt
will be made to grant all reasonable accommodation requests.
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MINUTES
Ad Hoc on Homelessness & Solutions
Tuesday, June 13, 2023 @ 3:30 p.m.
City Council Conference Room, 10th Floor City Hall
CALL TO ORDER
Council Member Brown called the meeting to order at 3:32pm
PRESENT
Council Member Jeffrey Brown, Chair
Council Member Adam Hussain, Vice-Chair
Council Member Patricia Spitzley, Member – excused
OTHERS PRESENT
Renee Richmond, Council Staff
Lisa Hagen-Lawrence, OCA
Matt Staples, OCA
Natasha Atkinson, Legislative Director for Rep. Emily Dievendorf
Kim Coleman, HRCS
Joe McDonald, HRCS
Toni Young, HRCS
Ulices Rosa, 54A District Court
William Walker
Norma Bauer
Belinda Fitzpatrick
Jesse Lasorda
Trisha Washburn
Rita Dunlop
Councilmember Jackson
MINUTES
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUSSAIN TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MAY 09, 2023 AS
PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED 2-0.
DISCUSSION/ACTION
DISCUSSION – Representative Emily Dievendorf on homelessness overview and intentions for the
county
Natasha Atkinson introduced herself as the Legislative Director for Representative Emily Dievendorf’s
office. She stated that the Representative is taking a strong stance on not only homelessness but also
renter’s rights, understanding that housing is a right and that there is work to do to bring equity. They
are proposing a homeless bill of rights and renter’s bill of rights. When look at renters they have just
cause evictions which effect the people that have month to month leases and how they can get evicted
and what stands for an eviction.
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Councilmember Jackson arrived at 3:34pm
Ms. Atkinson continued that from the people reaching out to our office is on the verge of homelessness,
return citizens and discrimination within the housing industry that can prevent people from getting
housing, they’ve been working with nation outside, also discussion relocation issues on red tag houses
and know that’s been a burden on city. Their office has also had talks with the mayor and about the
response with the city to re-house those who are in red tag homes. Noticing with Red tags there are
two different circumstances. One is re-housing and asking landlords to take the cost on, and two is red
and pink tags where they can provide assistance to the landlords understanding that, in talks with the
association of landlords, the majority of those who are housing are not wealthy, so burden of cost is on
them as well and how can we alleviate. Their office has heard from Code Enforcement and that if
people reached out earlier and explain the situation, both may be able to compromise and get in front of
it. The want to balance the scales and protect the tenants but provide the landlords with resources so
not having to go that route.
Councilmember Jackson left at 3:38pm
Councilmember Brown asked in talking with constituents where small mom/pop landlords versus the
big corporations, if there is support or programs they are putting together. Ms. Atkinson noted in talks
they’ve discussed a requirement that goes along with a renewal to license to rent, possibly require an
educational class for the landlords to take and home buyers and have possibly presenters to talk and
educate landlords on the barriers to housing, how to properly protect themselves in doing wrong things.
Knowing their rights could alleviate the stress of the outcomes.
Councilmember Brown asked Mr. Rosa what group he was working with, and he responded the Rental
Property Association of Mid-Michigan (RPAOMM). Ms. Atkinson believes the group they’ve spoken to
is in Ypsilanti. Her office is seeing that landlords want to be accountable, responsible and want to help,
and not have constant overturn of tenants. Their Renter’s Bill is almost 27 bills packed into one
package. There is equity in the bill and not attacking the landlords, clear outline who is responsible for
what.
Councilmember Brown asked how the residents find out about the bill, where can they look. Ms.
Atkinson indicated the bills are in the proposed phase and have not gone to the housing committee yet.
I would recommend reaching out to some of the agencies like Nation Outside, Tony Gant’s office or
their representative’s office. Ms. Atkinson gave the phone number and email for her office which is
517-373-2277, email is Emilydievendorf@house.mi.gov also they can find it on the State of Michigan
page. They are District 77 and are located in Court Anderson House building, Office #1096. People do
not need an appointment to walk in but may need one to have a discussion.
Councilmember Hussain asked Ms. Atkinson spoke of a 25 bill package and talk a lot about equitable
housing which can mean a lot of things. Have they in part of this package do away with exclusionary
zoning, asking because some municipalities are moving forward with their own housing code. Adding
in reality as an example, if someone is poor, they don’t have to live in the City of Lansing. But that said
it’s difficult to get local partners to take on some responsibilities, so are you looking at that. Ms.
Atkinson responded that is a good question for the Representative to answer but what she does know,
is there has been talks and no-one has stepped forward to propose that yet. She knows the
Representative’s position is absolutely not and nobody should be told to live in or not live in a certain
area. Councilmember Hussain also asked in talking about landlords financial responsibility, what does
that look like. Ms. Atkinson answered the way they are working with LSB (the lawyers that help them)
discussing relocation up to certain amount and size, like a family currently in a 3 bedroom apartment
and a landlord can’t put them in a single room hotel. She added there has to be a cap they are not sure
yet and looking for advice on how to enforce, and take into consideration, it is going to be difficult to put
a line on a certain amount so might have to be done based on number of units rented.
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Councilmember Hussain asked when finding someplace to move a tenant to is it going to be 60-90
days, or when the property is in compliance. Ms. Atkinson stated consideration will have to be made
pending how many units they may need. Councilmember Hussain also mentioned that Ms. Atkinson
referenced fair housing at the state level, what does that look like, and is that going to be applied
consistently across the state or more for municipalities to opt into. Ms. Atkinson stated their fair chance
housing is in reference to their housing bill of rights, and Councilmember Brown said Nation Outside
advocates for 2nd chances and also calls their proposal the same thing. Ms. Atkinson acknowledged
that Rep. Aiyash is working with Nation Outside through the housing committee as and once it does
pass, they hope it would be state as opposed to municipality.
Councilmember Hussain inquired about any data that says most landlords are small business owners
with multiple homes or is it an assumption. Ms. Atkinson responded they got their numbers from
MSHDA and unsure how it was collected.
Ms. Atkinson went on to talk about the homeless bill of rights, this will aid the population significantly on
how to assist in rapid re-housing, employment, education, etc. Councilmember Brown asked for
elaboration on that, Ms. Atkinson stated like the need of the warming/cooling centers, goal is to get
funding to implement more workers into working with the homeless and money to agencies who cannot
provide for rapid re-housing. Councilmember Brown asked Mr. Rosa to introduce himself and explain
what he has dealt with for rapid re-housing. Mr. Rosa said for him it is folks in shelters with section 8,
and vouchers trying to get into section 8 housing but because of the red tags they expire can’t get in
and people on the street can’t get into shelters. The evictions most recently the May pre-COVID they
had 81 writs, this May 123 writs. 52% increase. Rapids rehousing is just a buzz word nothing is
happening rapidly. Ms. Atkinson added they are hoping for budget money to go into programming, fund
development as MSHDA had a great program for owners for age stock to allow funding to repair and
receive incentives for renting to people with section 8 vouchers, etc. Councilmember Brown stated
after some talks landlords are reluctant because of damages, and Ms. Atkinson suggested maybe a
deposit for damages.
Councilmember Brown brought up employment and helping those who can and want to work, but may
have gaps in history or lack of education, it’s challenging enough for those that do have the education
but those that are homeless is even more difficult. Ms. Atkinson agreed it is going to be complicated
and there will need to be a shift culturally. They hear business owners can’t find workers and have had
to change hours.
Councilmember Jackson returned at 4:06pm
Councilmember Hussain asked if she had any bill numbers, Ms. Atkinson concluded by handing out a
paper with the renter’s bill of rights, indicating that it is preliminary and the bill itself is a 27 page
package, once available she would send to Ms. Richmond.
Councilmember Jackson left at 4:13pm
DISCUSSION – Committee Recommendations and Reporting
Councilmember Hussain mentioned that Councilmember Spitzley has specific recommendations and
he’d like to see all the minutes to review for the next meetings discussion.
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PUBLIC COMMENT
Norma Bauer spoke on the challenge to provide equitable services like the federal department does.
The five social determinates of health are; economically stable, adequate education, adequate health
care, do you live in safe housing, and do you live in a safe neighborhood. She continued to note that
hoarding is a mental illness as well.
Jesse Lasorda spoke on the town hall meeting on Saturday mentioning red tags and Rep. Dievendorf
mentioned no money for code enforcement. He is wondering on the percentage of those that are
homeless and at peace at being homeless, that some are.
Councilmember Brown asked Ms. Richmond to get an update on the red/pink tags of owner occupied
vs. rental from code if possible.
Trisha Washburn is a volunteer for Nation Outside and spoke on the discrimination of offenders with
criminal backgrounds and they are denied employment after being released because of fear of re-
offending. How are they going to get job skills, and she believes they need the fair change housing
ordinance. Councilmember Brown asked law to speak on that, Ms. Hagen-Lawrence noted a request
from the last Ad Hoc on Housing Safety they did a preliminary draft, but it would need significant
changes, and then morphed into Public Safety Committee, then to pursue on more state level for
consistency. Councilmember Hussain noted he has spoke with Tony Gant and like municipalities like
Ann Arbor, he is not willing to pass an ordinance just to pass.
Elinda Fitzpatrick spoke on her multiple monitoring fees and if she had that money, she could repair her
homes.
Rita Dunlop spoke that she has 28 units and is open to high risk and looses money even before
damages. It is important to get small and large companies on board to help.
OTHER
ADJOURN
Adjourned at 4:44pm
Submitted by
Renee Richmond, Recording Secretary
Lansing City Council
Approved by the Committee on
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Minutes
Ad Hoc on Homelessness & Solutions
Tuesday, January 24, 2023 @ 3:30 p.m.
City Council Conference Room
CALL TO ORDER
Council Member Brown called the meeting to order at 3:30 p.m.
PRESENT
Council Member Brown, Chair
Council Member Hussain, Vice-Chair
Council Member Spitzley, Member- excused
OTHERS PRESENT
Sherrie Boak, Council Office Manager
Lisa Hagen-Lawrence, OCA
Matt Staples, OCA
Judge Cynthia Ward, 54- A District Court Judge
Jody Washington
Tamara Carter
Ulices Rosa, 54-A District Court Advocacy
PUBLIC COMMENT
No public comment at this time.
DISCUSSION/ACTION
DISCUSSION – Establish the AD HOC on Homelessness & Solutions Goals and Timeline
Council Member Brown read the resolution into the record;
WHEREAS, the City Council has a duty to represent the citizens of Lansing and ensuring a safe
and healthy community; and
WHEREAS, an Ad Hoc Committee on the Homelessness and Solutions will be established to
review policies, services and resources to recommend assistance to connect the homeless to those
services and resources; and
WHEREAS, the Ad Hoc Committee on Homelessness and Solutions will meet with service
providers in the community and city staff to address the best path in providing direction to the
homeless population in the City of Lansing.
NOW BE IT RESOLVED, Lansing City Council President Wood appoints Council Member Brown
as Chair of the Ad Hoc Committee on the Homelessness and Solutions, Council Member Hussain
as Vice Chair, and Council Member Spitzley as Member.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, the Ad Hoc Committee on the Homelessness and Solutions will
report their findings and recommendations to the Committee of the Whole no later than September
11, 2023.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, with the establishment of the Ad Hoc Committee on Homelessness
and Solutions, the Council President has also reviewed the functions of all the standing committees
and those functions are consistent with the duties outlined in Council Rule 16.
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BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, the Ad Hoc Committee on the Homelessness and Solutions will meet
on the days and times set by the Committee and will be dissolved by December 11, 2023.
Council Member Brown started the conversation with talking about the plans for the Committee
and asked Council Member Hussain for his thoughts on goals.
Council Member Hussain began by stating Review policies, services and resources to
recommend assistance to connect the homeless to those services and resources;
-Meet with service providers in the community and city staff to address the best path to
addressing homelessness (we also need to include some of the top advocates in our community
that work on behalf of the homless population, and engage members of the homeless
community)
- Will report back to COW by September 11th
• Homeless Management Information System (HMIS) is a local information technology
system used to collect client-level data and data on the provision of housing and
services to homeless individuals and families and persons at risk of homelessness. Our
HMIS analyst position has been vacant since September 2021. Who manages HMIS
and how is this vacancy affecting the efficacy of HMIS? We need to ensure we are
following federal law when it comes to our HMIS system.
• Service Prioritization Decision Assistance Tool (SPDAT); supposed to be used by
Continuum of Care by law. This is an assessment tool for front- line workers at agencies
that work with homeless clients to prioritize which of those clients should receive
assistance first.
• Inventory of and audit City of Lansing Supported Agencies. What are the services being
provided? Is there unnecessary duplication? Have we conducted a void analysis to
determine what services we are not providing that we should be?
• Regional outreach and collaboration. What are our municipal partners doing to address
the homelessness crisis? How do we partner?
• Work with LHC (Public Housing Agency) and others that administer vouchers in the
region to ensure timely payments and better access.
• Delve into Permanent Supportive Housing (PSH) Program which provides rental
assistance for hard-to-serve chronic homeless individuals with disabilities and chronic
homeless (two-person) families with disability issues with a Housing First approach. How
many units does Lansing/Ingham County have? Do we know what the need is in terms
of units? Who do we partner with to increase the number of units?
• Address the idea of a 24-hour warming shelter
Council Member Brown agreed, noting that fact finding will be handled, what is the true
accessibility and talking to speaking to homeless individuals for accurate examples, what are
the qualifying eligibility to receive services, and start with groups with the City. This would
include HRCS, City housing services and programs, and then work out to agencies and
advocacy groups; DLI, Mayor’s Officer, LPD, LFD, HRCS and get the stance on what they are
seeing. As an outside agency, they would invite CMH. Council Member Hussain agreed to all
statements by Council Member Brown.
Council Member Hussain referred to the recent arrive of public and noted that there was public
comment at the Council meeting on 1/23/2023 and those same people are present and he
would like to hear their public comment now.
Council Member Brown noted each member of the public would be given two (2) minutes and
Council Member Hussain disagreed and asked not to time the speakers, but then added it is up
to the Chairperson.
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Ms. Washington spoke on her experience with working with the homeless in the community, her
frustration with the funding being given but services not being provided and asked for research
into agencies on what they are doing with the funds they are getting. She expanded on
educating the homeless when they are provided housing, to teach them how to maintain their
homes. She then provided statistics on low income housing units with Grand Ledge having 2
multi-family and Council Member Hussain asked how many units in those and she was not able
to provide that but stated the Committee should research that. She then expanded on the
numbers:
East Lansing – 7
Holt – 4
Haslett 3
Williamston -2
Lansing- 57
Meridian Township-0
Ms. Washington provided examples of services the homeless should be provided.
Council Member Hussain stated that the Committee should plan to have LHC, CMH, LFD,
CATA, CADL and the Cardboard Prophets.
Ms. Washington asked them not to include Homeless Angels, and she would compile a list also
and provide at the next meeting.
Council Member Brown acknowledge the information and stated the Committee will take
inventory, ask for documentation on the services the agencies provide, who are the individuals
doing the services. He also intends to individually go into the shelters and area to see what is
happening. Ms. Washington recommended he visit shelters unannounced, and added that if
HRCS cannot address the issues the department should be eliminated, and not to rely on
anyone who receives funding from COC.
Council Member Brown added he will also include and add the court systems to the invites so
they can provide documentation on what is taking place.
Mr. Rosa provided an updated on the court program and his role as the eviction diversion
facilitator. His goal is to work with the families to help them elevate themselves so they don’t
need eviction funding.
Council Member Brown wrapped up the meeting by detailing to the public that the Committee
needs to report by 9/11/2023 and dissolve 12/11/2023. This allows for 13 meetings before the
9/11/2023 date with the last one being 8/22/2023. There are options to add meetings after that
if needed, but the last meeting he will invite people for input will be 7/25/2023 allowing the
Committee two meetings to finalize the report.
Ms. Carter voiced her concerns on the access to funding the need for an organization that can
provided funding. Council Member Brown stated his intention is to invite groups that provide for
support services, one on one support, to make sure there are life skills, advocacy and they have
the means to access what is available.
Council Member Hussain asked to prioritize who Council Member Brown invites and start with
the people on the front-line, and Council Member Brown agreed.
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Adjourn
Adjourned at 4:04 p.m.
Submitted by,
Sherrie Boak, Recording Secretary
Lansing City Council
Approved by the Committee February 28, 2023
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MINUTES
Ad Hoc on Homelessness & Solutions
Tuesday, February 28, 2023 @ 3:30 p.m.
City Council Conference Room, 10th Floor City Hall
CALL TO ORDER
Council Member Brown called the meeting to order at 3:30pm
PRESENT
Council Member Jeffrey Brown, Chair
Council Member Adam Hussain, Vice Chair
Council Member Patricia Spitzley, - excused
OTHERS PRESENT
Renee Richmond, Council Staff
Lisa Hagen-Lawrence, OCA
Matt Staples, OCA
Jennifer West, LSD
Rose Taphouse, LSD
Belinda Fitzpatrick
Jason Gray, Seventh Day Homelessness Outreach Advocates
Ulices Rosa – 54A District Court Advocacy
Jody Washington
David (guest)
Daniel Arnold,
Gabriel Biber, Haven House
Tamera Carter, Lake Trust CU
Tesha Reeves, Lake Trust CU
Julie Reinhardt, Downtown Lansing Inc
Linda Appling
Gail Sawyer
MINUTES
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUSSAIN TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 24, 2023,
AS PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED 2-0.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Mr. Arnold introduced himself and is attendee to listen and take information back to the streets.
Ms. Carter stated she works at Lake Trust CU and have members that encounter roadblocks and
experiences with landlords and is attendee to listen and share information.
Ms. Washington stated she brought a guest to share his story and that she intended to bring guest to
future meetings as well so the committee could hear their stories.
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David stated he is nervous talking in front of groups but has gone from tent to tent, been homeless on
the streets, and in shelters and now has a place and goes to the doctors at CMH or New Hope, but they
cancel his appointments repeatedly. He doesn’t believe the agencies are there to help, it takes 4-6
weeks to get a return call, adding that he feels he talks to someone different each time and has to start
all over again. Ms. Washington asked him to speak on his transportation issues. David stated he can’t
get a bus pass because he needs the bus to get money, they say they will help him but he said they
don’t.
Councilmember Brown thanked him for sharing and asked what he would say is causing his struggle, is
it not working. David said he is not working and the agencies don’t seem to want to help him and I
have to walk. Councilmember Hussain thanked David for sharing his story and for being nervous said
he did very well.
Mr. Biber stated he is from Haven House in East Lansing and wanted to listen to the presentations and
see how they could help.
Ms. Appling stated she lives in the City of Lansing in Eaton County and urged the Committee not to
forget those that are in Eaton County. She continued that everyone always talks about Ingham and not
Eaton. Ms. Appling mentioned that assisting people and allowing them to put money into escrow may
encourage landlords into doing repairs, as well as adding that legal representation for those being
evicted is needed.
PRESENTATIONS
PRESENTATION – Lansing School District
Ms. West stated she has been with the LSD for 23 years and a resident of Lansing for three decades
on the southside, Ms. Taphouse stated she has been with LSD for 28 years. Councilmember Brown
asked that they explain what their program is. Ms. West spoke on the following and handed out cards
with the information and a QR Code:
The Families Overcoming Rough Times (F.O.R.T.) Program is a new program that assists Lansing
School District students who are living in temporary or inadequate living situations.
The F.O.R.T. Program assists qualified students with:
• transportation to and from school from wherever the student is living
• access to the free meals programs at the school
• uniforms and clothing necessary for the child to attend and participate in school
• school supplies to the student
• cap and gown so they may participate in graduation commencement
• enrolling students within 24 hours even when the student does not have birth certificate and other
vital record
• & many other needs that the student may need so that they may fully participate and achieve at
school
Ms. West continued that in a typical they see maybe 500 cases in a full year, but into February already
of 2023 and it is between 500-600 already in temporary or no housing. They are seeing a lot on the
streets and try to get them connected with hotels, or like the Advent House. They are doing summer
camps to build resilience to the trauma they see, education support, and mental health support for
students as well as staff. Ms. West referenced a large packeted, stating that even to access free
mental health they have to read all this first and that is a barrier along with transportation, bus passes,
clothing, food, etc. the list goes on.
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Ms. Taphouse concurred and added that the program gives them a chance to graduate, go to college,
and be successful. Laundry is also a hurdle because hotels don’t have access for that, some families
don’t speak English or read and the communication is difficult so we’ve started provided cell phones
when we can.
Ms. West talked about families losing their house and being red tagged, losing jobs, domestic violence,
and the older siblings are couch surfing and then the absences rise and even just missing two days a
month is astronomical with a child. Councilmember Hussain spoke that the numbers are catastrophic
and they see it in his school district but not to that extent, there is a need for affordable housing and to
take this regionally as well as in the city. Ms. West indicated they are doing gas cards when they can,
the best outcome is if they can stay in the district they started even if they temporarily move out so they
don’t have to make new friends, adjust to different teaching.
Councilmember Hussain informed the group that the committee’s intention for the first few months is to
listen to the presentations and then maybe locally through ordinance, budgetary, or community partners
come up with a solution and report out to Council in September.
Ms. West continued that they are probably under reporting the amount, and Ms. Taphouse added that
they have the opportunity to identify those at risk but parents are protecting their kids and finding
shelter on their own and then are no longer eligible for assistance. Ms. West finished that at the end of
the day they are an education entity and are doing everything they can to remove barriers, they do not
hire mental health professionals but are contracting those services. Councilmember Brown asked Ms.
West if they could send that list of providers to them, and they agreed.
PRSENTATION – Seventh Day Homelessness Outreach Advocates
Mr. Gray started the homeless outreach in 2017 with Greg Pratt, he was discharged from the Army and
after two years got addicted to pain medication, hit rock bottom, and then found Christ. He had
everything to be happy about, wife and kids and then was homeless, saying it can happen to anybody.
He continued he is a vet and has trouble getting mental health, if the VA says they don’t have the
resources, then who does.
Councilmember Brown as an advocate on a typical week what services and obstacles do you see. Mr.
Gray responded they handout sleeping bags, food, wood, call ahead for shelters to get beds. One
struggle recently during the code blue is turning people away. He indicated he went ‘under cover’ and
Holy Cross denied him and then dodged his calls when he followed up. Councilmember Brown asked if
they had beds available during the code blue, and Mr. Gray said they told him no. Hotels aren’t any
options for homeless so they end up in red tagged homes, under bridges, in parks all places they can’t
be, and that he is currently trying to get tents but they are expensive.
Councilmember Hussain thanked Mr. Gray and stated that himself, Councilmember Brown, and Mr.
Pratt sat down and discussed a few things. Speaking generally he is wondering what the biggest issue
is, whether HMIS, mental health services, service providers, etc.
Councilmember Brown thanks Mr. Gray for coming and speaking to the committee.
DISCUSSION/ACTION
DISCUSSION – Committee Intentions
Councilmember Hussain asked if items for the next meeting have been determined. Ms. Richmond
indicated that Sparrow Hospital and Cardboard Prophets have confirmed and McLaren is still pending.
Councilmember Brown mentioned the next meeting is March 14th, and the schedule is the 2nd and 4th
Tuesday of each month.
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OTHER
Ms. Reeves spoke that this is dear to her heart and that she was homeless at one point, a teenage
single mother and still hearing the same problems of no resources. Councilmember Brown asked what
her biggest barriers, Ms. Reeves stated judgement that people had toward her and transportation as
she would need a job near the bus route and sometimes had to take three different buses.
Councilmember Brown lastly questioned what training of soft skills are being done for the providers,
everyone gets burnt out and it leaves a negative impact, are they just processing the numbers.
ADJOURN
Adjourned at 4:53pm
Submitted by
Renee Richmond, Recording Secretary
Lansing City Council
Approved by the Committee on March 14, 2023
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MINUTES
Ad Hoc on Homelessness & Solutions
Tuesday, March 14, 2023 @ 3:30 p.m.
City Council Conference Room, 10th Floor City Hall
CALL TO ORDER
Council Member Brown called the meeting to order at 3:31pm
PRESENT
Council Member Jeffrey Brown, Chair
Council Member Adam Hussain, Vice Chair
Council Member Patricia Spitzley, Member – arrived at 3:34pm
OTHERS PRESENT
Renee Richmond, Council Staff
Lisa Hagen-Lawrence, OCA
Matt Staples, OCA
John Shaski, Sparrow Hospital
Mike Karl, Cardboard Prophets
Linda Karl, Cardboard Prophets
Gail Sawyer
Daniel Arnold
Belinda Fitzpatrick
Michael Lynn
Councilmember Jackson
Norma Bauer
Jody Washington
Sherri Davio
Tesha Reeves
MINUTES
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUSSAIN TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 28, 2023,
AS PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED 2-0.
PRESENTATIONS
Sparrow Hospital
Mr. Shaski is the Government Relations Officer and has been with Sparrow for 15 years, throughout
127 years they have provided compassionate care partnering with various local organizations like
Cristo Rey, Holy Cross (which used to be VOA).
Councilmember Spitzley arrived at 3:34
Mr. Shaski continued they also operate a mobile clinic staffed by physician and family medical residents
to help bridge the gap. Councilmember Brown said he hears the vision and the support with the health
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center but is looking on if there is an uptick and what is the hospital doing. Mr. Shaski stated that
trends have been consistent with 5-10 patients per day in the ER for services. Councilmember Brown
asked about during COVID, Mr. Shaski did not know specifically during 2020. Adding that they come in
seeking shelter, food, respite, over the counter medications and they see a modest increase in cold
weather, during the polar vortex years ago we had a number seeking shelter in the lobby. Mr. Shaski
mentioned Joan Jackson Johnson and how she had a way with people and would come in and talk with
people, was amazing and yielded respect, he continued to read a comment from case management:
There is difficulty in the homeless population when they have medical needs and a homeless shelter is
unable to accommodate. We do encounter many of these very vulnerable, and often very ill, adult
patients. In the Detroit market, the Salvation Army has initiated a “Medical Respite” clinic. This
innovative approach to care transitions of the homeless is something completely lacking in the mid-
Michigan area
Many of the Medical health plans subsidize this type of setting. The Sparrow case managers have
referred cases to the medical respite site when the patient has the appropriate subsidizing health plan.
This type of setting allows a homeless individual to recover and heal in a supportive setting, connects
them to medical care, and transitions them to the appropriate housing situation when recovery is
complete.
Mr. Shaski indicated in his roll he is aware the state is focused on number of issues, medical respite
care centers, and they will advocate for those. Councilmember Spitzley asked what the cost
breakdown for respite clinic and partners are, Mr. Shaski didn’t have specifics and would be happy to
dig in and check, he will follow up with Ms. Richmond.
Councilmember Brown indicated he would like to have Mr. Shaski return to speak on medical respite,
Mr. Shaski responded that he didn’t know if Sparrow would lead the charge on that and suggested
Ingham Community Health.
Councilmember Hussain inquired about the UM takeover, everybody talks about disruption but not
preventing and hope that Sparrow and McLaren continue to care and be concerned. Councilmember
Spitzley asked if a representative with McLaren was present. Ms. Richmond stated she received
confirmation but has not seen anybody. Councilmember Spitzley continued that she has heard that
EMTs and EMS are told to go to Sparrow and not McLaren, so it is like there is only one hospital. Mr.
Shaski stated that Sparrow is a Trauma 1 hospital and on the night of the MSU tragedy they also had
three traumatic vehicle accidents and if the next nearest is Grand Rapids and Ann Arbor.
Councilmember Brown asked if there is any vision for supporting homeless directly, Mr. Shaski said he
did not know, but it is a concern and this is their city too and these are their community members. He
finished with staff challenges he is unaware of what more can be done but is open for ideas.
McLaren Hospital
No one present.
Cardboard Prophets
Mr. Karl gave a brief introduction, he’s been doing street outreach since 2010 and after being with the
Homeless Angel, in 2017 decided to do something separate. He is the founder of Cardboard Prophets
along with his mother Linda Karl who runs the Capital Area Diaper Bank. He proceeded to handout a
folder to the Committee Members. Stating that the biggest hurdle is to get a category 1 for homeless,
there is way too much paperwork from the State of Michigan (SOM), in the packet there is a verification
form and they need this and an HMIS card# to be documented. The shelters like City Rescue Mission
(CRM) do not use the number, using religious exemptions but still get money from the city.
Councilmember Spitzley commented if they are claiming religious exemption how are getting money
from the state and city, and the people aren’t documented, Mr. Karl voiced he didn’t know, but then they
can’t get to the next level. Councilmember Brown asked as an example if he is homeless and goes to
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CRM and not documented he can’t get housing support, Mr. Karl said not without the HMIS but you can
still go to CRM. Councilmember Brown asked what other shelters, Mr. Karl indicated Holy Cross and
Advent House. Councilmember Brown asked Mr. Shaski if Holy Cross is the shelter connected to the
health center, Mr. Shaski confirmed.
Mr. Karl continued that the shelters aren’t following the process, stating that Tim Bays owns a mortgage
company that owns one of the hotels so he is benefiting, saying holding people for a year then moving
to personal properties. Councilmember Brown asked if he had documentation on this, and Mr. Karl
referenced the pink binder clipped portion of the folder he handed out. Mr. Karl said there is a scale
from 1-10 rating the severity of homelessness and 4 is chronically homeless. Receiving permission to
share Sam’s story he stated she has been homeless 100 times but things were missing, on paper she
qualified for housing (9+), put in rapid housing in Todd Dowrick homes that didn’t meet habitability
standards, sewage in basements, electrical not done so Sam went back into the system.
Councilmember Spitzley asked when you go to CRM you have to demonstrate homelessness for x
amount of day, Mr. Karl confirmed.
Councilmember Brown asked how Capital Area Housing is and Mr. Karl responded they control the
housing money. Councilmember Brown said if he has this case study why are these groups passing
money and the system broken how do we have these fiduciary’s passing money, Mr. Karl did not know.
Mr. Karl said he brought a guest, Jessica to give her story if the committee allowed.
Councilmember Jackson left the meeting at 4:00pm
Jessica stated she became homeless the end of 2021 due to a domestic violence situation, was
dropped off at the Causeway Hotel by CPS and they paid for three days. She reached out to Holy
Cross and they advised her they were not a domestic violence shelter and wasn’t able to help, so
Jessica reached back out to CPS and they extended her another two weeks in the hotel. After that
ended, she went to America’s Best saying it is not a safe hotel and holy cross continued to refuse her
help or put her on a hotel program. Councilmember Brown stated for the record why do we keep giving
money if this continues to happen and this began in December 2021. Councilmember Spitzley asked if
anyone from HRCS contacted her, Jessica said no. Continuing, Jessica was passed to the Advent
House still with no verification or HMIS ID, they used all her funds to pay for the hotel from Dec 31 to
June 15, she was on a Section 8 waitlist and found her funds were being used illegally. Every time she
asked a case worker, she was told they’d look into it and then she got a different one. Until Mr. Karl
reached out and put pressure on them for an ID, they said they couldn’t. Jessica added that by using
her funds illegally they put her “address” as Holy Cross not the hotel.
Councilmember Brown commented he was on the HRCS Board and they had grants.
Jessica added she finally got a Section 8 voucher but was told by the LHC it would be 9 months to get it
because money going to Holy Cross and that when she found out they changed her “address”. The
first three months were paid upfront but for some reason she had late fees and the apartment complex
told her they were aware that LHC is always late and even though she was incurring $50/monthly late
fees she wouldn’t have to pay. Jessica finally added that she received assistance from a gracious
person and paid the apt. complex.
Mr. Karl added the big issue is when not documented is messes up everyone, he reference the folders
he gave the committee and there is a list of names and numbers for them. Councilmember Spitzley
asked him for three things they should do. Mr. Karl responded:
1. First issue is HMIS, every person in a shelter should have an intake and get an ID
2. He challenges them to walk up to just one homeless person in a shelter and ask for their HMIS
ID, more than likely they won’t have one
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3. Address the demerits received in shelters, like if someone misses chapel they get a demerit
and if it happens again they get another.
Councilmember Brown thanked Jessica for sharing and Mr. Karl for his presentation and stated he
would like to look through the folder and possibly have him back to a meeting. Councilmember Spitzley
asked Jessica if she’s spoken to the Housing Ombudsman, Jessica didn’t know there was one.
DISCUSSION/ACTION
DISCUSSION – Committee Intension
Councilmember Brown is waiting on a few follow-ups and will confirm with Ms. Richmond.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Ms. Washington expressed her gratitude towards Cardboard Prophets and all she’s learned from them,
and commented that CoC is broken, Housing Ombudsman is worthless, the grants are a joke.
Mr. Lynn mentioned that the passion out of this committee is amazing and can’t wait to see the actions
that come out.
Ms. Davio mentioned she has worked in housing and care, she loves what Cardboard Prophets are
doing, unsure how she can help but has the skills to do so and has volunteered with Habitat for
Humanity, Sparrow Nest, etc.
Ms. Bauer mentioned she has seen people sleeping in the corner at Sparrow lobby, Cedar Place is
terrible, locks broken, and there are lots of places that the homeless aren’t counted, so keep an eye
out.
Mr. Arnold spoke on his approval and likes what is happening in this committee.
OTHER
ADJOURN
Adjourned at 5:10pm
Submitted by
Renee Richmond, Recording Secretary
Lansing City Council
Approved by the Committee on March 28, 2023
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MINUTES
Ad Hoc on Homelessness & Solutions
Tuesday, March 28, 2023 @ 3:30 p.m.
City Council Conference Room, 10th Floor City Hall
CALL TO ORDER
Council Member Brown called the meeting to order at 3:30pm
PRESENT
Council Member Jeffrey Brown, Chair
Council Member Adam Hussain, Vice Chair - excused
Council Member Patricia Spitzley, Member
OTHERS PRESENT
Renee Richmond, Council Staff
Lisa Hagen-Lawrence, OCA
Dr. Adenike Shoyinka, Medical Health Officer ICHC
Kris Drake, Executive Director, ICHC
Rosalyn Williams
Marcy Doozan
Cheryl Campbell
Sara Fase
Shelia & Steve Antes
Chrsitopher
Mike Karl
Greg Pratt
Tesha Reeves
Judge Cynthia Ward, 54A District Court
Ulices Rosa, 54A District Court
Michael Lynn
Farhan Sheikh-Omar
Kyle Richard
Jody Washington
Linda Appling
Gail Sawyer
Schnika McKissic
Sherri Davio
Linda Karl
Belinda Fitzpatrick
Jeffrey Filip
MINUTES
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SPITZLEY TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MARCH 14, 2023, AS
PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED 2-0.
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PRESENTATIONS
Ingham Community Health Centers
Dr. Shoyinka acknowledged the great turnout from the public, introducing herself she is the Chief
Medical Officer for Ingham County and they are a federal health center and department that gives them
the opportunity to provide a range of services up to primary care. ICHC is essentially a comprehensive
primary care and can provide other care as needed, created patient center so providers can give and
overcome barriers. They have 11 sites throughout Lansing with one dedicated to those experiencing
homelessness under 330H program that provides federal grants, and others with Behavioral Health
Services, Substance Abuse, General Health, and Nursing Services within Holy Cross. Adding the
Community Health workers are the main connection to those that walk in, once they do they get a
housing assessment, and whether they need food, vouchers, legal resources, clothing, etc.
Councilmember Brown asked that she talks about Holy Cross is that their facility, she stated no, they
are just located in the building and just lease space. Councilmember Spitzley asked out of the 11 sites
where are they located. Mr. Drake indicated all 11 are throughout the Greater Lansing area, some free
standing and some in schools like Eastern, Sexton, Pattengill, Gardner, and Everett. Willow
Community Health Center on Pennsylvania, the one at Holy Cross, Birch Community Center on Jolly,
and the Human Services Building holds the Women’s Health Center, they also have a mobile dental
service.
Councilmember Brown asked if the New Hope Health Center at Holy Cross is only accessible by those
at Holy Cross, Mr. Drake responded no those who identify as homeless can access any location.
Councilmember Spitzley stated for the ones located in the schools she is worried about accessibility but
sounds like they are off major bus lines, Mr. Drake confirmed and they offer vouchers as well.
Councilmember Brown asked about any other organizations besides those mentioned that they are
partnering with. Dr. Shoyinka restated there are 15 of the 330h federal funded to specifically provide
services, there are other free clinics that they’ve partnered with in the past but were dismantled during
the Pandemic. He continued Spartan Street Medicine included vaccinations, minor wound care and
referrals to the ER when needed.
Councilmember Brown asked they had a number on how many homeless, Dr. Shoyinka said that is
difficult to give a certain number, when you think of housing one indicator is number of those who use
more than 30% of income, that is 1/3 of our population, East Lansing is #1 and that is at 48%, Lansing
is at 46%. Councilmember Spitzley mentioned EL is skewed because of the students. Councilmember
Brown asked how many served at new hope and Dr. Shoyinka said in 2021 it was 2,250 which would
be 8% in all 15 sites across the state, with approximately 30,000 served total in all programs.
Councilmember Brown asked for clarification when she mentions statewide, Dr. Shoyinka repeated that
ICHC is federal funded in the 330h, there are 15 sites and they share one with New Hope. Adding that
in Michigan they service 30,000 and that is our 2,250. Councilmember Brown asked how many
patients, Mr. Drake answered appropriately 20,000 – 30,000 and nearly 2,250 of them are homeless.
Dr. Shoyinka stated they don’t have numbers for 2023, in 2022 it was about 2,137. Mr. Drake included
in 2020 was about 2,259 (hard to say because of COVID). Dr. Shoyinka added that 2019 and 2018
would be close to the same but shelters couldn’t take as many people because of isolation. Dr.
Shoyinka concluded that even though they don’t do direct care they identify homelessness as a public
heath crisis and want to make sure they are having conversations with the right people.
DISCUSSION/ACTION
DISCUSSION – Rosalyn Williams; Lansing Resident Advocate Discussion Human Relations &
Community Services and Red Tags
Ms. Williams said she is here as a resident of Autumn Ridge, Councilmember Spitzley asked if she
was talking on behalf of HRCS or not. Councilmember Brown said no her and him have been in
conversation about red tags and she is facing homelessness. Ms. Williams continued that AR has
600+ units and she was pink tagged Nov. 2019 with a simple violation of the ventilation needing
cleaning and the complex didn’t get it done. Adding the unit next to her is horrible having mice and bed
bugs and she paid to have it cleaned because she didn’t want it in her place. But it is still not up to
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code and AR never shows up when you call, now seeing pests, on Feb. 24th the furnace went out and
AR brought her two space heaters to heat bedrooms upstairs and living area, she had to turn the oven
on it was red tagged by code and she was told to leave. Councilmember asked if between it being pink
and red tagged to best of her knowledge was code there, Ms. Williams responded yes that Dave Klein
always comes out. Ms. Williams indicated to was injured and Councilmember Spitzley asked if it was
onsite, she answered yes, they had some palettes out that covered some ground and it was wobbly
and she stepped on it and it tilted and broke. Councilmember Brown asked where she’s been staying
since February and she said a hotel, that they offered a City hotel but that one is horrible so she went to
a different one, she was told she still can’t go home, Consumers shut gas off, maintenance took the tag
off, so she can’t live there. Councilmember Spitzley asked if she’s spoke to the Housing Ombudsman
and asked for a yes or no, Ms. Williams said yes and he told her he couldn’t do anything for her.
Councilmember Spitzley asked if he’s provided counseling or your rights, she said no she’s been doing
it on her own.
Councilmember Brown asked what her experience with the City has been, she said they offered to pay
her BWL, but she calls one person they say someone else will call back and nobody ever does, and Mr.
McDonald asked her if she looked at Zillow and HRCS is no help.
Councilmember Brown and Spitzley confusingly asked about the City hotel, and Ms. Williams said she
didn’t want to say the name and just knew what hotel they wanted to send her to and it is off S.
Pennsylvania by the car dealership. Councilmember Spitzley stated that they’ve been dealing with AR
for some time and didn’t know if she could speak, Ms. Hagen-Lawrence stated that litigation is no
longer active.
Councilmember Spitzley asked Ms. Williams if she had three suggestions what were they, and Ms.
Williams replied:
1. take red tags and offer to residents who want to be homeowners despite credit
2. make people that run the programs live in them
3. do your job, make people accountable and talk to the people
DISCUSSION – Committee Intention
CM Brown said he was going to bypass this as the intention of the committee has been stated several
times.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Mike Karl spoke on HMIS again and gave a handout to the Committee of guidelines and said he
handed out to people and added that if the homeless ask for a HMIS number they are threatened to be
removed.
Sheila Antes spoke on three family’s homes are red tagged and code won’t release because the
landlord doesn’t have property listed as a rental, he’s taken $40,000 from these families that put money
into fixing issues. Advent House said they would only help women/children so the men are sleeping in
cars. She continues that every time she calls Joe McDonald he doesn’t call back. Councilmember
Brown asked if she escalated the call to Director Coleman of HRCS, Ms. Antes said no, she hasn’t
heard that name. Councilmember Spitzley regrettably stated the person that spend $40,000 on repairs
doesn’t own the house and the landlord doesn’t have a rental certificate, it is the responsibility of the
landlord.
Mike Lynn spoke on financial accountability to the landlords and hitting them in the pocket, they’ve
been having red tag convo’s since 2019. Councilmember Spitzley agreed and stated they were fining
and sending notices to Autumn Ridge. Mr. Lynn acknowledged that Code is extremely understaffed,
and Councilmember Spitzley said it is budget time and Council speaks through resolution so it will be
looked at. Then asked Ms. Hagen-Lawrence to share the penalty of removal, Ms. Hagen-Lawrence
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responded it is a criminal misdemeanor with $500 fine and 90 days in jail but has not seen any recently
but is limited in her role.
Greg Pratt spoke on that he is with 7th Day Adventist Outreach and every Thursday is handing out
sleeping bags, food, jackets, and hand warmers. He believes the Mayor needs a city of emergency for
the homeless, he witnessed that pass Friday four LPD officers evicted a homeless person out of a shed
without calling a social worker. Finished that there are only two shelters for men, they are all full and in
winter nowhere to go.
Cheryl Campbell spoke on being homeless for two years, advent house paid for a hotel, but HMIS
report is blank and shows she is a single person and she had six people in her family that are right now
in a hotel. She is working two jobs, kids aren’t going to school no what to get there, averaging three
hours of sleep because all of them are sleeping sideways on the bed. Finishing that she qualifies for
rapid housing but nothing in the HMIS report.
Councilmember Spitzley stepped out of the meeting at 4:42pm. Councilmember Brown paused the meeting with no quorum present
at the time.
Councilmember Brown reconvened at 4:46pm
Councilmember Brown asked if she contacted HRCS, Ms. Campbell said no.
Farhan Sheikh-Omar spoke on the only difference now is the news is covering this and the mayor is not
standing up because nobody has a plan on how to fix, need a concrete plan moving forward. He
continued maybe hire outside investigator to look into it, it’s a disgrace what’s happening in this city.
Schnika McKissic is a resident of Lansing, works for the school district, a health science master, and
receiving disability section 8 voucher and is being evicted from 212 E. Cavanaugh Rd which has never
been up to code. She moved into the home in 2019, LHC was supposed to inspect and owner stole
$20,000 because nothing was ever fixed. Ms. McKissic paid upfront and doesn’t own anything and she
was forcefully removed and evicted on February 6, 2023.
Jody Washington spoke on the HRCS meeting tonight at 5:30pm and asked Ms. Richmond if she could
look up the locations. Continuing that America’s Best and Causeway are the worst hotels possible.
She is told from Advent House they run out of money all the time and she doesn’t understand how
when the get so much.
Kyle Richard spoke on his great love for the city and he was a teacher at Sexton. Knew people at
Autumn Ridge and the recent letter to the Fledge from the City is disgraceful. Adding to not discount
the power of their voice and letterhead, City Hall could’ve opened during the Code Blue for a 24/7
shelter.
Linda Appling spoke on the city establishing legal aid for those evicted and red tagged, the City of
Detroit has it, and Councilmember Spitzley stated Wayne County does too. Ms. Appling continued that
the bus services in the city are horrible.
Pat walked out at 5:03, guy upset at being ignored, no quorum.
OTHER
ADJOURN
Adjourned at 5:11pm
Submitted by
Renee Richmond, Recording Secretary
Lansing City Council
Approved by the Committee on May 9, 2023
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MINUTES
Ad Hoc on Homelessness & Solutions
Tuesday, April 11, 2023 @ 3:30 p.m.
City Council Conference Room, 10th Floor City Hall
CALL TO ORDER
Council Member Brown called the meeting to order at 3:30pm
PRESENT
Council Member Jeffrey Brown, Chair
Council Member Adam Hussain, Vice Chair
Council Member Patricia Spitzley, Member - excused
OTHERS PRESENT
Renee Richmond, Council Staff
Matt Staples, OCA
Hope Lovell, LoveJoy Community Services
Brooke Hall, CMHA-CEI
Sara Lurie, CEO CMHA-CEI
Norma Bauer
Jazmine Anderson
Paul Anderson
Tesha Reeves
Gail Sawyer
Ulices Rosa, 54-A District Court
MINUTES
Councilmember Brown tabled the minutes from March 28, 2023 until the next meeting, April 25, 2023.
PRESENTATIONS
Councilmember Brown explained that the Committee meetings are now streaming on YouTube, when
speaking please speak up and come to the table, there will be public comment at the end of the
meeting.
CMHA-CEI; Brooke Hall, Housing & Residential
Ms. Lurie indicated she just wanted to listen to what everyone had to say and that Brooke Hall was the
presenter today. Also, their agency is heavily 85% funded by Medicaid so their flexibility is limited, she
brought a few brochures for the group and office to have.
Ms. Hall indicated mental health services provided are their main focus and build on support, their
support team has 3 staff, they have 23 internal programs. They look for the least restrictive option
available, group homes are ok but for some lose the independence feeling. Her team walks alongside
the case managers to find what the particular individual needs best. They try to assist in avoiding
eviction, but some cannot care for themselves, they provide and directly operation three foster care
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homes, less than 30 beds in the tri-county area. Councilmember Hussain asked where they are
located as she states tri-county are they in Lansing, Ms. Hall confirmed Lansing area. Councilmember
Brown asked how many in the city total, Ms. Hall said less than 40 adult foster care homes, some are
smaller with about 6 beds, about 130 on mental health side. Councilmember Brown thanked for the
explanation, with CMH so multi-dimensional and her describing the restrictions because of Medicaid,
what are her thoughts on why mental health isn’t getting or receiving services. Ms. Hall thinks CMH
does provide the services, there are many factors, they may not need inpatient care, may not be
appropriately cared for in a shelter environment which could upset them. They have Bridges Crisis Unit
as a hospital diversion to get connected to services and onto next steps and that’s 16 bed short-term
stay maximum 14 days. Ms. Hall added peer support shelters are huge, her team only has one peer
support staff, Ms. Lurie added they have two peer recovery coaches that visit shelters on a regular
basis. Councilmember Brown cited he lived in Oklahoma previously and they had training with the
community and development, will or can CMH do anything within the City, Ms. Hall recommended
MDHHS.
Councilmember Hussain asked as a tri-county entity what can be done better as a city maybe
policy/budget, what are other municipalities doing. Ms. Hall said nothing, supportive housing projects
are here, symptom of urban area and stricter laws, need an advocate at the state level. She added that
in order for CMH to help folks they need to move to the area, in places like Colorado and California they
work with state government to provide housing support like they are, also rural transportation is an
obstacle to navigate because need more support than city bus.
Councilmember Brown asked is there any type of place for the individuals that have mental health
challenges, and what kind of numbers for example if they have 1,000 people what percentage are in
group homes. Ms. Hall was unsure of accurate data but they support between 6,000-7,000 and
estimate 200 are housing instability which means couch homeless, staying at friends or maybe a group
home. Ms. Lurie added they try roommate matching to see if can bring people together to share rent
but need landlords on board. Councilmember Brown asked if any agencies like Advent House or Holy
Cross participate to get grant funds, Ms. Hall said yes they ask but they take the lead and CMH offer
support. Councilmember Brown asked what they would say is the number one challenge and how is
addiction included, Ms. Hall said the state hospitals have closed beds so less inpatient care and CMH
has to manage and community goes back to housing that doesn’t support the level of care needed, the
addiction portion complicates treatment, could have underlying condition or just primarily substance
use, it’s an in/out cycle through the ER. Ms. Lurie informed the committee that they are currently
working on a Crisis Stabilization Center (CSC) as a pilot project, currently they can only observe for 23
hours and cannot detain unless they go through a petition, in the CSC they could have a secured 72
hour unit to keep if it’s a substance abuse issue and withdrawal while in a secure unit. Councilmember
Hussain asked where they are in a timeline for it, Ms. Lurie again said pilot is starting in May and still
developing, they cannot finalize until state finalizes the certificate process, very specific things in a
secure unit, doors have to open a certain way, room sizes, etc. Councilmember Hussain asked how
many beds, Ms. Lurie responded eventually 12 adult and 12 youth.
Mr. Rosa introduced himself from 54A District Court and had an individual that needs assistance and
would like to speak to CMH afterward and handed is card out.
Ms. Bauer spoke on mental health hospitals that were closed due to abuse and at the time legislators
didn’t understand the same people victimized needed the services from CMH and severely undercut
funding. She hopes someone is working on getting funds from legislature and just realized there is a
Tri-County Regional Planning Commission and nobody from the City attends and thinks they should.
Councilmember Hussain asked what other revenue CMH receives besides the 85% from Medicaid, Ms.
Lurie responded they get state fund dollars, mental health block grants from the state, one that funds
the veterans navigation team, money from counties, contracts for providers like McLaren where they
have a crisis staff member, and provide clinical supervision to behavioral health staff under contract
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with Ingham County Health Dept. Councilmember Brown asked if they were receiving anything from
the City of Lansing, Ms. Lurie apologize they do get some to support Bridges and fills the gaps for
room/board and funding for the recovery center. Ms. Hall added that room/board is $1,027.50 based
on the SSI rate which is $900 and apply for a bump through DHHS. Councilmember Brown asked
where the 1027 is room/board is for. Ms. Hall said adult foster care home, Bridges is licensed.
Councilmember Brown said so limited housing but our hotel program is 2000/mo. so a supportive
environment is 1027. Ms. Lurie reminded that it is a congregate setting, and Ms. Hall indicated it has 6
beds shared room, Councilmember Brown asked typically how many people per room, Ms. Lurie
answered two.
Councilmember Hussain mentioned Ms. Bauer spoke on cuts, historically what is the biggest they’ve
seen for example state general funding. Ms. Lurie said in 2015 there was a monumental cut and
everybody thought they’d be covered by Medicaid and that wasn’t the case. The State reduced by
60%, which they had to stop providing some services and closed Richard’s Place. Both Ms. Lurie and
Ms. Hall spoke that if it happened again programs not funded by Medicaid would likely be shutdown
and if you don’t spend what they have, they have to return it.
Paul Anderson asked how they can reduce administration and regulatory barriers continuing to face as
community. Ms. Lurie responded she had the opportunity to testify at the house health policy
committee, and the amount of accountability of reporting and rules is hinderance, eliminate duplication
and wonders if they review actual things, for them more flexible dollars.
Councilmember Brown asked about their support for veterans. Ms. Hall again stated the Veterans
Navigation team, they work alongside the homeless and Holy Cross, no barriers so can work with
anyone, they coordinate directly with the VA. Councilmember Brown asked how many on the team and
approximately how many do they serve, Ms. Lurie indicated three staff and close to 100 and staff are
veterans as well.
Councilmember Brown commended both Ms. Hall and Mr. Rosa on their efforts and thanked CMH.
LoveJoy Community Services; Hope Lovell, Executive Director
Ms. Lovell explained her role and what LoveJoy Community Services does. They are a provider of
CMH, been around for about 15 years around when the psychiatric hospital was closing and jumped in
to help people, finding away to keep them integrated into the community setting to avoid
institutionalization which in their language looks different, 1) hospital, 2) jail, and 3) nursing home. She
started working with various CMHs and hospitals to provide care for those who are at risk for
institutionalization. This includes those mentally ill (MI), intellectually/developmentally mentally disable,
chronically ill and traumatic brain injury, their goal and guide is to provide support to stay in the
community whether it is room/board, group home, or home care which we call community living
supports (CLS). CLS is a catch net service for example those that are MI whose level of care say they
don’t need group home and are 24/7 assistance. We assess to see if they need that support of 1 or 2
staff or do room/board setting and give community living support.
Talking about the homeless, they work with hospitals, VA, CMHs many clients some who may be not
guilty by reason of insanity, those are highest risk of homelessness coming out of jail. Work with
program called NHFT (Nursing Home Facility Transition), let’s say you get someone chronically ill go to
the hospital and have stoke or something and all of a sudden they look up and can no longer live alone,
hospital moves them to a nursing home and the nursing home says no longer can stay, so they reach
out to the community to find housing, maybe Burkhardt, hotel program if no funds, maybe if they have a
social security number be part of a senior apt if social security or living with a friend or family. When
put into apt with no access to care and then 30 days back in hospital, it’s a cycle. Ask ourselves how
do homeless get home care, worked with VA and Disability Network, hotel programs, see individuals
most at risk not just homeless but that have a form of pre-existing condition (maybe a stroke, speech
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problems) if they had a home, they could get a script for an agency to go in, to provide service but with
no address they are released.
In About 2015 pushed providers to reimage setting and push for choice (roommate/staff, no rules)
unless it is articulated in what we call residential providers upland of care. Many providers found
couldn’t keep people safe with this new policy push and unfortunately ask about numbers and what
happened, the level of care got dropped and rates got dropped and they got discharged. If there was
availability for staff, they would get some form of CLS and get room/board but didn’t happen for
everyone. At that time looked at more supportive services module.
In her, personal experience she has traveled the country looking at various housing programs and adult
based, goal is to keep people in the community and housed but give support, whether food stamps,
guardianship, coordination of bills, care, assistance with doctor appts, being their voice and advocating
for them, or if high needs (traumatic brain injury) found that is supportive housing module. This looks
different all over, most unique in Detroit area, in the old yellow pages building (old fox building) had
approximately 125 units and made all permanent Supportive Housing and on the main level included
PACE (Program with All-inclusive Care for Elderly), it’s an all-day adult program. In a shelter in the
morning you have to get out so in the adult day program was the safety net program to get them access
to doctors, physicals, social workers, activities to help get positive socialization and training, very
practical skill building,
Detroit looks different than other environments not a lot of places you’re going to go to with that high of
a concentration of chronic homeless, at risk of homeless, but it works for them. Also seen like Lansing
scattered site type of module where providers don’t control or own real estate and but contract with
landlords and send case managers. It’s great it gives choice, however flip side it’s difficult to get that
intense support for the individual and keep them in housing. Before you know it they are again living in
setting as unsafe or maybe uninhabitable, or just not optimal for their safety or remaining housed.
Councilmember Brown asked about Peckham and if they are helping, Ms. Lurie believes Peckham
draws from a number of different populations but not viewed the same way, they are more of an
employer with skills training. Councilmember Brown then asked if PACE is a government agency, Ms.
Lurie responded own entity for the elderly. Ms. Lovell responded they are like an adult day care on
steroids, a senior community services like the VOA and do serve the homeless. Adding as an adult
foster care provider they pay her, Councilmember Brown asked if they have to be disabled, Ms. Lovell
acknowledged yes and over 55.
Councilmember Brown asked Ms. Lovell what she believes for this committee is the gap that needs to
be addressed. Ms. Lovell stated the support for individuals with chronic health conditions/needs,
because people don’t want to come in, the body breaks down and the risk of high cost of care are the
frequent fliers and revolving doors through the system.
Councilmember Hussain asked about the housing piece, Ms. Lovell stated with MSHDA requires of
developers in the application is amenities, you get points for, urban area, if you are competitive, one
mile away from grocery store, or school/bus stop. So when that developer is looking for a space/site
this is taken into consideration.
Councilmember Brown asked Mr. Rosa working with CMH and Hope what is the percentage trying to
avert eviction. Mr. Rosa stated the data just started to be collected in March and the biggest number
he’s seen is a little over 100 surveys with 80% women and 60% claiming disability.
DISCUSSION/ACTION
DISCUSSION – Committee Intention
No discussion.
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PUBLIC COMMENT
Jazmine Anderson spoke about working at DLI and just wanted to learn more, be supportive and an
advocate. Councilmember Brown asked what she is seeing from working downtown, she replied that
the homelessness population is definitely going up and the winter was hard. Ms. Anderson continued
that she spoke to an individual recently and is curious if they know what’s available or uninterested in
what is sometimes. Ms. Hall spoke on the CMH-DEI “Mental Health First Aid” training available that
offers a 7-hour training for professionals, community members, caregivers and families to learn the
skills needed to reach out and provide initial support to someone who may be developing a mental
health, substance use disorder or experiencing a crisis, the number is (517) 346-5232 or
prevention@ceicmh.org.
Tesha Reeves spoke on also working downtown at Lake Trust and glad that she came to the meeting it
was very informative.
OTHER
ADJOURN
Adjourned at 4:51pm
Submitted by
Renee Richmond, Recording Secretary
Lansing City Council
Approved by the Committee on April 25, 2023
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MINUTES
Ad Hoc on Homelessness & Solutions
Tuesday, April 25, 2023 @ 3:30 p.m.
City Council Conference Room, 10th Floor City Hall
CALL TO ORDER
Council Member Brown called the meeting to order at 3:30pm
PRESENT
Council Member Jeffrey Brown, Chair
Council Member Adam Hussain, Vice Chair
Council Member Patricia Spitzley, Member - excused
OTHERS PRESENT
Renee Richmond, Council Staff
Matt Staples, OCA
Erika Brown-Binion, Executive Director Refugee Development Center
Mark Pierce, Executive Director Disability Network Center
Ulices Rosa, 54A District Court
Judge Ward, District Court
Jazmine Anderson
Belinda Fitzpatrick
MINUTES
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUSSAIN TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF APRIL 11, 2023 AND
TABLE MARCH 28, 2023, AS PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED 2-0.
PRESENTATIONS
Refugee Development Center; Erika Brown-Binion, Executive Director
Ms. Brown-Binion gave an overview of the RDC, they have been around for 21 years, they exist
because Lansing is a welcome space for refugees, they are the largest program with about 400. When
they first arrive, they have the support of case management, most come in speaking different
languages so they teach them English, tutoring from k-12, all this is within the first 90 days. They help
find employment and to be self-sufficient, in finding apartments or housing. They have a home visiting
program for new families with an interpreter and help navigate housing and help with health education
along with housing education. Most refuges come from Afghanistan, Syria, Sudan, Iran, Iraq, and
more.
Councilmember Brown asked what she is seeing in Lansing and how it’s effecting the RDC from the
past 10 years, does she have any solutions. Ms. Brown-Binion acknowledged they don’t see much
homelessness compared to the general population. For the most part culturally refugees live in larger
family units than typical, and they emphasize the prevention stages that is one reason they added the
housing navigation so they engage in home ownership and not land contract to get taken advantage of.
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Councilmember Hussain asked in terms of regional partners who else is opening up or is it just mainly
Lansing. Ms. Brown-Binion noted resettlement happens all over like, Grand Rapids, Greater Detroit,
Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, and Traverse City. Once they first resettle most end up staying and building
roots, only a few may move.
Disability Network Capital Area; Mark Pierce, Executive Director
Mr. Pierce stated he has been with DNC for nine years, they have been around for 47 years and
service Ingham, Clinton, Eaton, and Shiawassee Counties. Their Mission Statement is – Transforming
thinking to improve the environment and quality of life for people with disabilities. The agency serviced
516 consumers (people), closed out 112, and 30% were minority. One of the biggest concerns is they
served 47 consumers that came through direct services and they couldn’t speak for themselves.
Councilmember Brown asked of those were they homeless and families or individuals, Mr. Pierce
responded yes and they only serve individuals, the biggest services is social security benefits, it’s a
huge piece, whether it’s just that or Medicaid.
Mr. Pierce shared a quick story of a person that came from the hospital that had their toes amputated
and lived on the street and ended up back in the hospital after being robbed. Social Worker called a
transition specialist and they were able to connect with him and get an ID card and into adult protective
services. The person is now in the process of getting a checking account at MSUFCU and bringing
some normality.
Mr. Pierce added that homelessness means no name on a lease or mortgage, no address for mail.
They partnership with other agencies like the Rescue Mission, Haven House, VOA, and more, he then
handed out a list for the record that his staff uses to help with hotels or center, etc.
Councilmember Brown asked would he say they’ve helped about 10% of the people with
homelessness, Mr. Pierce noted the big issue landlords, apartments or house that are red tagged, the
person with disabilities have no where to go and may access a red tag just to have somewhere to go,
they’ve seen a huge increase because you have interest rates that increase, constraints on Section 8
and the amount of money that is made. Councilmember Brown asked if he was saying people with
disabilities are living in red tag houses then having to leave, his response was yes and if they could
know ahead of time maybe they could work with them. With the Rescue Mission there is a process
they get categorized and some don’t understand what is happening. Councilmember Brown asked if he
could categorize the people, he services what type of disability stands out that are experiencing
homelessness the most, Mr. Pierce said no specific disability stands out but if they have a guardian,
they are better off rather than speaking for themselves. In most cases the disability could be emotional,
developmental, or intellectual and they don’t know what resources they have. Councilmember Brown
asked if he would agree there is a gap of support for those with moderate disabilities who aren’t able to
advocate for themselves, Mr. Pierce agreed adding that during COVID people got assistance with rent
and those with disabilities could fill out the paperwork.
Councilmember Hussain asked what he thought the City could do better with the housing navigation,
red tags, gaps for service, sounds like these are leading to the increase in homelessness. Mr. Pierce
stated trying to find/create enough places ahead of time but it’s difficult, there is a 400% increase and if
you have 100 homeless how do you find that many. He included just brainstorming but if your
unemployed and you get unemployment the employer pays insurance, what if there was red tag
insurance, like some people are required to have fire insurance or car insurance.
Councilmember Hussain asked him how other municipality partners doing since you serve four
counties. Mr. Pierce said he didn’t have a definite answer, rural areas are closed mouth and don’t want
to talk about it like the inner city is willing. He concluded Lansing, Kalamazoo, places with universities
are different they have options not like smaller cities.
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DISCUSSION/ACTION
DISCUSSION – Committee Intention for next meeting
The Committee concurred for the next meeting no presenters and to start discussing strategy and how
to tackle the issues.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Judge Ward spoke on information she received regarding the special meeting on red tags and questions for Court
Administration and what’s been filed. She added that numbers were run over the last three years and types of
filing for rentals and housing, they are looking over everything and she needs to speak to someone and digest
everything before reporting back, she just wanted to give an update.
Belinda Fitzpatrick noted she likes the idea of oca looking into the insurance portion to see if that is possible for
landlords to get to avoid eviction. Also, that the term “hoarder” is a protective class and that it’s something DNC
may run into.
Ulices Rosa requested to ask the presenters a question, Councilmember Brown agreed. Mr. Rosa stated to Ms.
Brown-Binion that the refugee’s getting work within 30-60 days is amazing and that 90% are experiencing income
loss and those are getting hired. Ms. Brown-Binion explained that at the federal level they must find work
immediately, whether it’s at McDonald’s or elsewhere, and most are minimum level wage positions. She added
that Peckham helps, some refugee’s have PTSD and it may not be their first choice position but it’s something,
including that self sufficiency is the ultimate goal within 90 days.
Mr. Rosa asked Mr. Pierce who he thinks he handles more of for their evicted people when it comes to
disabilities. Mr. Pierce stated there is a stigma around people they don’t want to identify as disabled, they do
awareness assessments and we would gladly welcome those evicted and please reach out to us, Mr. Rosa
confirmed.
OTHER
ADJOURN
Adjourned at 4:24pm
Submitted by
Renee Richmond, Recording Secretary
Lansing City Council
Approved by the Committee as Amended on May 9, 2023
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MINUTES
Ad Hoc on Homelessness & Solutions
Tuesday, May 9, 2023 @ 3:30 p.m.
City Council Conference Room, 10th Floor City Hall
CALL TO ORDER
Council Member Brown called the meeting to order at 3:42pm
PRESENT
Council Member Jeffrey Brown, Chair
Council Member Adam Hussain, Vice Chair
Council Member Patricia Spitzley, Member
OTHERS PRESENT
Renee Richmond, Council Staff
Lisa Hagen-Lawrence, OCA
Matt Staples, OCA
Mike Lynn
Ulices Rosa, 54A District Court
Rita Dunlop
Jody Washington
MINUTES
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SPITZLEY TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MARCH 28, 2023.
MOTION CARRIED 3-0.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUSSAIN TO AMMEND THE MINUTES OF APRIL 25, 2023 TO
REMOVE LISA HAGEN-LAWRENCE AND ADD MATT STAPLES AS ATTENDING. MOTION
CARRIED 3-0.
DISCUSSION/ACTION
DISCUSSION – Committee Recommendations and Reporting
Councilmember Brown indicated there were no presentations today and wanted to review what’s been
discussed previously and look towards recommendations and reporting out. Councilmember Spitzley
noted the presenters so far have been very helpful but feels input from the Administration or HRCS is
needed prior to any recommendations, otherwise what’s submitted is delegitimized. Councilmember
Hussain agreed and mentioned bringing in County and State officials, the Committee has to report to
COW by September 11th, but can continue meetings afterward until December 11th.
Councilmember Spitzley spoke on last years Ad Hoc and suggested inviting Rep. Emily Dievendorf.
Councilmember Brown then confirmed a few members of the Ingham County Board of Commissioners,
and Councilmembers Hussain and Spitzley both suggested Rep. Elissa Slotkin, Sen. Sarah Anthony,
and Sen. Sam Singh.
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PUBLIC COMMENT
Jody Washington spoke on that County Commissioners that she has talked to and that they have a
bigger voice in the housing decision, it should be more regional and the reps are out there. She
continued that one group/department should not be handling the money.
Mike Lynn mentioned he received a call from Krystal at LSJ for an update on the 24/hr warming centers
and that the Mayor came back with a 2.2 million dollar cost, with a breakdown of approximately $600,00
for a facility and $500,000 for staffing, etc. No address was given and the is was for just one building.
Councilmember Spitzley mentioned last years conversation with the mayor was it can’t be one place
and she had suggested opening Schmidt, Letts, Foster, and Gier Community Centers, but the response
was a staffing issue and for people to work overnight was hard to find. Councilmember Brown
commented he thought all these may fall with Bishop Maxwell and faith based initiative and getting
volunteers. Ms. Washington added maybe open Otto as well, Derek Knox would open, the homeless
can’t see the alerts on TVs or computers, churches have offered to open up, adding when the fledge
opened it was sanctioned.
Ulices Rosa mentioned he is currently trying to help a pregnant/homeless woman get into a shelter
since Thursday, and the shelters say no. He also mentioned that the eviction side of things are higher
since April 2019, passing pre-pandemic. During COVID people got all this money but nobody helped
them be efficient with it, they just spent it and now are getting evicted. He added that he has tried
helping over 500 families, need landlords involved, all state shelters. He concluded that they schedule
people for eviction diversion but only about 10% may show up. Councilmember Brown asked how
many staff Mr. Rosa had, he replied it was just him.
Councilmember Spitzley stated as she recalls the Housing Ombudsman was created as the one stop
for all folks, initially was looking at a legal background but not a lawyer, to offer direction and provide
help with rental clinics, education and knowing their rights if evicted and/or red tagged, in addition to
working with HRCS Department, work with all departments and based out of the Mayor’s Office. When
the previous administration left, Joe McDonald needed somewhere to go and he was placed in this
position and in HRCS. Councilmember Brown asked if Mr. Rosa is working with Joe, Mr. Rosa
answered that Mr. McDonald will reach out monthly with some questions, what he does with the
information he does not know.
Rita Dunlop introduced herself, she is with RPOAMM, she wanted to come and see how she and other
owners can help. Councilmember Brown asked if she’s worked with HRCS, she indicated she isn’t
aware of who they are. Councilmember Brown then asked if her group works with the Housing
Ombudsman to help the homeless get placed into units that they may have available, Mr. Dunlop
answered at this time they are creating a list, she’s received lots of referrals, adding some owners are
reluctant to rent/house to the homeless due to they’ve been isolated and may destroy property and
vacant units will not be furnished. Councilmember Brown noted that working with HRCS can help with
barriers, and addressing housing, mental health, rehabilitation, etc.
Councilmember Brown asked how many owners, Mr. Rosa answered 135 landlords. Councilmember
Spitzley made a recommendation to figure out how much to operate the existing community centers (Schmidt,
Letts, Foster, Gier, and Otto). On average Lansing has 10 cold days/year, so to staff, have coffee and a
Community Police Officer, maybe an EMS on hand.
Ms. Hagen-Lawrence left at 4:50pm
Councilmember Brown inquired budget wise about taking for example 200k from one department and
100k from another to support eviction prevention and warming centers. Councilmember Spitzley
commented they continue with the same issue of too many people doing the same thing.
Councilmember Hussain noted Mr. Rosa is doing what the housing ombudsman is doing.
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Councilmember Brown asked if funding is going to the housing ombudsman, Councilmember Spitzley
stated that is a question for the Internal Auditor.
OTHER
ADJOURN
Adjourned at 4:54pm
Submitted by
Renee Richmond, Recording Secretary
Lansing City Council
Approved by the Committee on June 13, 2023
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