Pension Trust Commission
Regular MeetingLawton, OK · April 8, 2025
Minutes
City of Lawton Lawton City Hall
212 SW 9th Street
Lawton, Oklahoma
Pension Trust 73501-3944
Commission
Minutes
Tuesday, April 8, 2025 9:00 AM Lawton City Hall
3rd Floor Conference Room
Roll Call
Chairman Bayones called the meeting to order at 9:00 A.M. in the third-floor conference
room of City Hall.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Paul Ellwanger, Teri Bayones, Ed Petersen, Christine James
ABSENT: Jace Zacharias, Richard Rogalski, James Apple
ALSO PRESENT: Tammy Branstetter, City Clerk’s Office; Craig Akard, Human
Resources; Kristin Huntley, Financial Services; Kaitlin Nunley, Financial Services; Tim
Wilson, City Attorney's Office; Perry Warren, Morgan Stanley Financial Advisors; Chad
Rother, Morgan Stanley Financial Advisors; Dan Bledsoe, Finley and Cook CPAs
Introduction of Guests
No guests were introduced.
New Business
1. Consider approving the minutes of the January 23, 2025, meeting.
A copy of the minutes of the January 23, 2025, meeting may be obtained from the City
Clerk's Office upon request.
Motion by Ellwanger, Second by Petersen, to approve the minutes of the January 23,
2025, meeting. AYE: Ellwanger, James, Petersen, Bayones. NAY: None. MOTION
PASSED.
2. Consider accepting the annual audit report of the City of Lawton Employee
Retirement System for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2024.
Dan Bledsoe, Finley and Cook CPAs, presented the annual audit report of the City of
Lawton Employee Retirement System for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2024.
Bledsoe said I believe two documents were issued. The audited financials are probably
the bigger one that was shared up front with you. I’ll probably start with the shorter
one—the communication letter. I usually go through that because it includes some
required elements under auditing standards that need to be discussed with the board. It
also gives a brief recap of the audit results. Then we’ll move into the larger document,
which is the audited financial statements themselves.
Bledsoe said as mentioned, this was the June 30, 2024 audit for the pension plan, and
we issued an unmodified opinion—a clean opinion—basically meaning the financial
statements are presented in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles.
Since the pension is a governmental entity, it’s subject to GASB standards. There
wasn’t anything new this year that impacted the presentation or disclosures. GASB has
been active, but most of the things they've issued affect more of the city's financial
versus the pension's financial statements, so nothing has changed with that.
Bledsoe said one of the things we always have to discuss in the communication letter is
management estimates in the audited financial statements. Consistent with prior years
were two primary things. One is the fair value of investments. We always do test work
on that and send a confirmation to verify directly what the balances were at the end of
the year.We did our usual test work on investments, sending out confirmations to
directly verify year-end balances. We'll do some verification too with a third party like
Yahoo Finance, or something like that, on a sample basis just to make sure the values
at the end of the year match up. We reviewed the SOC report for your third-party
investment handler, which evaluates their internal controls. Everything looked
satisfactory, and we had no issues. Based on our testing, no changes were made to fair
values, and we were comfortable with how those were reflected in the financial
statements.
Bledsoe said the second area is the actuarial assumptions. Of course, Dean Actuaries
has done the calculations for you guys for a number of years. So what we really do with
that is kind of twofold. One, we look through Chuck's report to make sure the
assumptions that he's using are consistent with the prior year and seem reasonable.
There were no significant changes to the assumptions this year. The discount rate has
remained consistent for several years. We also tested a sample of the census data
used in his calculation, checking things like age and sex against the city's records. We
then confirmed that the data Chuck received matched those records. There were no
discrepancies, and we felt comfortable with the data being used for the actuarial
calculation.
Bledsoe said a few other key things we are required to report on include whether there
were any difficulties working with management, challenges in obtaining information for
our testing, or disagreements. We didn't have any issues to report this year. In past
years, some of those issues had caused delays, but this year we received everything
we needed from internal records, including the cash allocation schedule, which had
previously been a challenge. We had no issues this year, and management was great
to work with, getting us everything in a timely manner. As a result, we were able to get
caught up.
Bledsoe said the letter—along with our independent auditors' report—includes what we
call an “emphasis of matter” paragraph. This has been included for probably the third
year in a row and relates to an ongoing issue that remains unresolved, so we’ve
included that emphasis of matter mainly because the issue still isn’t fully settled. The
main point of including the emphasis of matter is just to highlight that the issue still
exists and that it could have an impact on the plan’s financials once it’s all settled and
determined.
Bledsoe said as far as audit adjustments, we had a few reclassification entries—just to
make sure things were in the right bucket, so to speak. We had maybe one small actual
audit adjustment, which helped ensure that the net position, or equity, rolled forward
from our prior audit. Now that we’re caught up in the current year, once we finished the
audit, we provided the finance group with the adjustments that we made so they could
enter them into the city’s records so that basically everything will match the adjusted
audit financials.
Bledsoe said the last item in the letter I want to touch on—something I discuss each
year—is whether we identified any material weaknesses or significant deficiencies in the
internal control structure. We’re required to report those. We didn’t have anything to
report for this year. As we’ve discussed in the past, the auditing standards require us to
gain an understanding of how benefit payments are processed, how contributions come
in, and all the other key processes involved. We look at the design of the internal
controls and ensure there is adequate segregation of duties or compensating controls.
We also perform sample testing to make sure those controls are not only designed
properly but are functioning as intended. If there were issues with either the design or
the results of our test work, we would have to report those. We didn't have any issues
this year, so we felt comfortable with how that was set up. We also have to report if we
identified any instances of fraud, and based on our testing, we didn’t identify any fraud
issues. If we come across any illegal acts or violations of law that we become aware of
as part of our test work, we’d be required to communicate that to the board, but we
didn’t encounter anything like that this year either.
Bledsoe said overall, even though the timing was a bit later than ideal, we were able to
get everything done. I’m not sure if the city has formally completed its FY24 audit, but I
believe they were close. I know the finance group seems to be back on track and where
they want to be. I believe we’re now in our third year under the hard agreement, and we
plan to schedule the FY25 audit probably around October of this year, aiming to have it
done by the end of 2025.
Bledsoe said let's jump over to the financials. I’m not going to go through everything in
them—there’s obviously a lot of information in there—but I’ll touch on some key points.
If there’s anything I don’t cover that you’d like to discuss, let me know and we can talk
about those.
Bledsoe discussed pages 1-3 of the audit report. He said as mentioned earlier, we
issued an unmodified or clean opinion. That section is where our audit opinion is
formally rendered. The rest of the report lays out our responsibility in performing the
audit, as well as management’s responsibility for producing the financial statements and
ensuring they’re presented in accordance with GAAP. It basically recaps that whole
process. As I mentioned, page one also includes the emphasis of matter paragraph in
the independent auditor’s report. We wanted to make sure this was brought to your
attention.
Bledsoe said following the auditor’s report is the MD&A (Management’s Discussion and
Analysis) which spans pages I-1 to I-7. This section is required by GASB standards to
be presented with the financials, though it’s technically not part of our audit opinion. The
MD&A allows management to recap the results of the year in more plain English. Our
main responsibility with this section is to ensure any numbers included reconcile to the
audited financials. There are some tabular things showing assets, liabilities,
contributions, or benefit payments, and we make sure all of that is reconciled to the
audit. We didn’t see anything that contradicted the financials during our review.
Bledsoe said that brings us to page four, where the actual financial statement numbers
begin. Page four is the Statement of Fiduciary Net Position. This is your balance sheet
as of June 30, 2024. It’s presented on a comparative basis, so you can also see figures
from June 30, 2023. There are two key things I'd like to point out. First, the cash
equivalents at year-end. This can fluctuate depending on when funds are moved
between investments and cash. At the end of 2023, there was actually a negative cash
balance of about $192,000. But by the end of 2024, more cash had been flushed over,
and so you actually had almost $1.5 million positive cash. The other thing I want to point
out is in the middle section of the page, where you have the investments reflected at
their fair value. You can see that investment performance has continued to be strong.
We’ve had a couple of good years, and even though 2023 was already a strong year, it
continued to increase. We were almost $3 million overall combined in your total
investments. A key thing to point out is that under GASB standards—specifically GASB
72, which has been in effect for about 10 to 12 years now—investments are required to
be reported at fair value. With fair value, you have to adjust your investments and reflect
them at their fair value as of the reporting date. Any changes related to that fair value go
through the income statement. So, as the markets perform well, you'll see an increase
not only on the balance sheet side but also in earnings, including realized gains and
losses. So far in fiscal year 2025, we've seen a bit more struggle in the markets, and
depending on where things settle, you may see those numbers go down. That’s just
how the fair value model is set up.
Bledsoe said you’ll see this reflected if you look at the next page, which is page five—
essentially your income statement, titled the Statement of Changes in Fiduciary Net
Position. Overall, things were positive in that area. Contributions, although there has
been a bit of a lag, were still up about $100,000 year-over-year in contributions in 2024
compared to the prior year. Investment earnings were very good, coming in at
approximately $8.7 million net of expenses, compared to $6.1 million in the previous
year. So there was almost a $2.5 million increase year-over-year. A large portion of that
came from the change in fair value and unrealized gains, which totaled nearly $6.8
million for the year. So overall, fiscal year 2024 was a very strong year in terms of
return.
Bledsoe said in the deductions section, benefit payments did increase year-over-year,
which is expected as the retiree group grows older and more individuals begin drawing
benefits. Actual refunds of contributions—when employees leave early—were slightly
lower, about half of what they were in 2023. These are hard to predict since it depends
on when individuals choose to leave city employment, so the timing can vary.
Bledsoe said the main line item to note on page five is the “Change in Fiduciary Net
Position,” which came in at almost $4.4 million. This represents the increase in equity
or, more or less, your net income for the year. With the strong market performance and
the increase in contributions, overall it was a good year for the pension in building up
your net position.
Bledsoe said after that, we move onto the footnotes, and there are three or four specific
ones I want to touch on. If we go back to page 13, you’ll find the section on investment
disclosures. While the investment categories are already broken out on the balance
sheet, this section aligns with GASB 72, which requires you to disclose the level of
judgment involved in determining fair value. Level one refers to investments with a
readily available market price—for example, mutual funds that are actively traded.
These are easily verifiable at year-end. Level two investments may not be actively
traded but have comparable items - in this case, they're basically three or four
government agency investments we've had for quite a while. Level three is labeled as
"other investments" - that's basically the judgments that you guys have worked with the
city on. They don’t have an active marker or comparable type of investment, so they fall
into the level three bucket. So levels one through three indicate a progression from less
to more judgment required. These categories were consistent with fiscal year 2023. We
always look at your improved investment policy as well, just to make sure the
percentages fall within the allowed buckets, so to speak. There were no issues with that
in 2024, so the investments were within the allotted percentages that you're allowed to
do.
Bledsoe said on page 14, in the bottom section, you’ll find a multi-page disclosure
starting with the net pension liability. As mentioned earlier, Chuck Dean performs the
actuarial valuation and calculates the total pension liability using census data and a
variety of assumptions. That figure increased to nearly $102 million at the end of 2024.
The fiduciary net position—basically what the system has available, reported at fair
value in accordance with GAAP—is subtracted from the total liability. That difference is
the net pension liability, which is the portion the city is responsible for carrying on its
books. We also disclose the fiduciary net position as a percentage of the total pension
liability. That funding ratio improved year-over-year—from just under 57% at the end of
2023 to a 59% funding level at the end of 2024. Of course, the challenge with that is
one of the key differences between what the actuary tries to do with investment
earnings and what GAAP requires in its disclosures. Actuaries tend to smooth out
investment earnings over time. Basically, if you have a big year, they don't take it all in
one year like GAAP does—instead, they level it out over a five-year period. As a result,
the funding level can look a bit different if you're looking strictly at the actuary’s figures
compared to what GAAP requires for disclosure. So, you tend to see a little more
fluctuation under the GAAP basis. For example, in a strong year like 2024, the funding
deficit might shrink significantly. But if there’s a sharp drop-off the following year, that
deficit could increase again. In contrast, the actuary’s approach smooths those changes
over a five-year window, focusing more on a long-term outlook.
Petersen said you've talked about this before, but practically that's a meaningless
figure.
Bledsoe said to a degree—yes. But the key, from the actuary’s standpoint, is that
they're obviously looking at the long-term horizon. So in the short term, as long as
you’ve got enough people paying in—combined with the employer’s contributions—and
you've built up investments that can generate dividends and earnings, you can ensure
things stay on track.
Petersen said for a corporation that's on the verge of bankruptcy, that becomes a very
meaningful figure.
Bledsoe said that's correct. You haven't benefited the City having a long horizon, and
hopefully being able to adjust down the line if additional funding is needed to make up
that gap. Really, all you're mandated to do is pay your retirees—those coming up in the
next year or two—and make sure those short-term obligations are covered. As of now, if
you look at the end of the year, based on your investments, the available cash, and the
contributions expected in the next year, yes—you’re in good shape. But what the
actuary is required to do is take a longer-term view. They consider the impact of an
aging group, more retirees, and the fact that people are living longer. All those factors
come into play. When we approve the benefits going back a number of years, that
horizon kind of changes, and so that's where you end up with the deficit piece of it. I
think I’ve mentioned in prior years that we audit many of the larger state pensions. We
handle firefighters and police. Police are close to 100% funded—likely helped by
stronger lobbying that results in higher contributions. Firefighters are roughly at the 70–
75% funded level. We don’t audit the teachers' system, but I believe they’ve lagged
behind a bit in the past compared to others. At the city level, you definitely see more
variation. For individual cities, it’s more of a challenge—they may not have as much of a
revenue source as the state does if they need to increase contributions. So I definitely
agree that this has definitely got assumptions in it, and there are actuarial aspects to
that.
Petersen asked how other cities compare.
Bledsoe said I’m trying to think—most of our groups are now in OKMRF, so they don't
really have that on their books to be audited. I believe you guys are the only ones now.
We did have another city we audited, but I think we rotated off of them about three or
four years ago. So I can’t give you great information on that, since we don’t really have
other large cities still doing it. Most cities are either moving to the DC plan through
OKMRF, or they just figured out that they were funded enough so that they could hand
the DB plan over to OKMRF. That could be something for you to consider as well, but I
think they require at least a minimal funded level—maybe 70% or 75%. So that’s
probably an option to look at down the line if you can kind of catch that up. Also, I made
note of this—after June 30, 2024, there was a subsequent event where it was approved
to increase contribution rates for both active employees and the city. I believe it's
roughly a 1% increase on each side. That will certainly help. To do that, the city used—
though not directly—some additional ARPA funds they received about three or four
years ago. They adjusted the budget to allow for contributions beyond just the
mandated percentage. I think that happened in 2024—so last year. They broke that
additional contribution into four increments of about $170,000 per year, on top of the
mandated percentage rate. So I know they’ve made some efforts. It’s always a
challenge with the budget and everything the city is trying to manage. We’re not fully
familiar with all the details of how they’ve handled it, but I’m sure they’re aware that
additional funding is needed.
Ellwanger asked if the net pension liability is a separate line item on the city's balance
sheet.
Bledsoe said it should be - I would expect that it is. Their auditors probably used some
judgment on how significant it is. That’s a pretty sizable liability, so I’d say that’s
probably the best way to look at it.
Kristin Huntley, Financial Services, said it is a separate line item.
Bledsoe discussed page 17 of the financial report. He said we’ve had this for a couple
of years now: a contingency disclosure that ties in with what we just discussed. There
are two items. First, we mention the computation issues that were noted and whether
there’s any potential liability. My guess is the City would probably be the one to settle
that once it’s determined. It may not even flow through the pension—though I don’t
know that for sure. We likely won’t know until a final number is determined, and we
evaluate the asset side to figure out who owns what and how they’ll handle it. So we
continue to include that disclosure, just to acknowledge that the issue is still out there.
The second item is the contribution rate shortage, which has been present ever since I
inherited the audit—going back about 10 years now. There's a back table that lays out
information the actuary provided—based on their calculation of what the contribution
would need to be in order to reach a 100% funded level versus what was actually
contributed. That’s what this disclosure relates to. Even with the increases that have
already happened, based on what the actuary recommends, there’s still a deficit. Now,
actuaries are kind of like dentists—they always want you to brush three times a day.
They’d love it if you could just instantly fund everything and make up that shortfall. Still,
they’re doing their due diligence by raising that to your attention, and you're aware that
additional contributions would be needed to fully catch up. The last item I mentioned
earlier is on page 18 under footnote 9—subsequent events. It notes that contribution
rates were increased for both participants and the City, effective at the end of
September 2024. So those increases should begin flowing through in FY25. Hopefully,
that will result in higher contributions coming in.
Ellwanger said our total pension liability has increased year after year. I’m looking at
your page 22, covering 2015 to 2024—and we froze the plan as of 2017. So what
should I expect going forward in terms of total pension liability? How should I look at
that?
Bledsoe said that’s more of an actuary’s question—you’d probably want to discuss that
with Chuck. Some of it comes down to life expectancy. You would expect at a certain
point, maybe it will decrease some, but at least level off. Given the plan was frozen in
2017, we’re starting to see more people retire who have never been able to participate,
so that will turn over eventually. I believe you're now in the seventh year since the plan
was frozen and everyone moved to the DC plan, so it’s probably still a little early to fully
see that benefit. One other factor that could affect the total pension liability is a COLA
(Cost of Living Adjustment). It’s been quite a while since any COLA has been approved,
but if one were added, that would definitely impact the calculation. But since no new
participants are coming into the plan, the only thing that might affect it going forward
would be a COLA—if that were to happen.
Motion by Petersen, Second by Ellwanger, to accept the annual audit report of the City
of Lawton Employee Retirement System for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2024. AYE:
Ellwanger, James, Petersen, Bayones. NAY: None. MOTION PASSED.
Adjournment
Motion by James, Second by Ellwanger, to adjourn the April 8, 2025, meeting. AYE:
Ellwanger, James, Petersen, Bayones. NAY: None. MOTION PASSED.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:35 AM.