Plan Commission
Regular MeetingLombard, IL · January 26, 2015
Minutes
Village Hall
Village of Lombard 255 East Wilson Ave.
Lombard, IL 60148
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Minutes
Plan Commission
Donald F. Ryan, Chairperson
Commissioners: Ronald Olbrysh, Martin Burke,
Ruth Sweetser, Andrea Cooper, Stephen Flint and
John Mrofcza
Staff Liaison: Jennifer Ganser
Monday, January 26, 2015 7:30 PM Village Hall - Board Room
Call to Order
Acting Chairperson Flint called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
Pledge of Allegiance
Acting Chairperson Flint led the Pledge of Allegiance.
Roll Call of Members
Present 5 - Martin Burke, Ruth Sweetser, Andrea Cooper, John Mrofcza, and Stephen
Flint
Absent 2 - Donald F. Ryan, and Ronald Olbrysh
Also present: Jennifer Ganser, Assistant Director of Community
Development; Matt Panfil, AICP, Senior Planner, and Jason Guisinger,
legal counsel to the Plan Commission.
Acting Chairperson Flint called the order of the agenda.
Ms. Ganser read the Rules of Procedures as written in the Plan
Commission By-Laws.
Public Hearings
150014 PC 15-01: 86 Eisenhower Lane North, Downers Grove Boxing and
Martial Arts, LLC.
Requests that the Village grant a conditional use, pursuant to Section
155.420 (C) (18) of the Zoning Ordinance, to allow for a Learning
Center (indoor athletic training facility) within the I Limited Industrial
District. (DISTRICT #3)
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Acting Chairperson Flint asked if any person would like to speak in
favor or against this petition, or for public comment.
Sworn in to present the petition was Jennifer Ganser, Assistant
Director, and petitioners Gregory Eck and Tom Volvz.
Acting Chairperson Flint read the Plan Commissions procedures and
asked if anyone other than the petitioner intended to cross examine,
and, hearing none, he proceeded with the petition.
Mr. Eck stated that he and his partner began teaching martial arts
about thirty years ago. They would like to move their business from
Westmont to Lombard. They focus on one on one training and small
group training. They are looking for additional square feet in this new
location. There is ample parking. There will be no tournaments held
on site. They noted martial arts teach discipline, respect for others,
and the betterment of one’s self they believe this use would be in the
best interest of the Village.
Acting Chairperson Flint asked if any person would like to speak in
favor or against this petition, or for public comment. Hearing none, he
asked for the staff report.
Ms. Ganser, Assistant Director of Community Development, presented
the staff report, which was submitted to the public record in its entirety.
The petitioners are proposing to operate to an indoor athletic training
facility which is a conditional use in the industrial district. They are
focused on small group training and this is not an assembly function.
She noted that the building that houses 86 Eisenhower Lane North
has multiple tenants that function as offices or warehouses. There
have been four recent cases of indoor athletic training facilities in the
industrial area. Most classes are held in the evenings and weekend
which will not compete with parking during normal business hours. As
noted, the building does have over one hundred (100) parking spaces.
Staff finds the use acceptance with the conditions listed in the staff
report.
Acting Chairperson Flint asked for public comment, and, hearing none,
opened the meeting for comments among the Commissioners.
Commissioner Sweetser acknowledged the public input received and
asked if condition two would keep all business activity inside. Ms.
Ganser concurred that the employees and clients would need to keep
all activity inside.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Burke, seconded by Commissioner
Sweetser, to recommend to the Corporate Authorities approval of this petition
subject to the conditions.
1. The conditional use permit for an indoor athletic training facility is
exclusively for the tenant space at 86 Eisenhower Lane North. Any expansion
of the establishment within the existing building beyond the plans submitted
as part of PC 15-01 shall require an amendment to the conditional use;
2. All business activity associated with the indoor athletic facility shall be
conducted within the existing building;
3. The petitioner shall satisfactorily address all comments noted within the
Inter-Departmental Review Committee Report;
4. The parking lot shall be configured so as to meet all Illinois Accessibility
Code requirements; and
5. This relief shall be valid for a period of one year from the date of approval of
the ordinance. If the learning center is not established by said date, this relief
shall be deemed null and void.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Martin Burke, Ruth Sweetser, Andrea Cooper, John Mrofcza, and
Stephen Flint
Absent: 2- Donald F. Ryan, and Ronald Olbrysh
Business Meeting
The business meeting convened at 7:43 p.m.
Approval of Minutes
On a motion by Commissioner Mrofcza, and seconded by Commissioner
Sweetser, the minutes of the December 15, 2014 meeting were approved. The
motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Martin Burke, Ruth Sweetser, Andrea Cooper, John Mrofcza, and
Stephen Flint
Absent: 2- Donald F. Ryan, and Ronald Olbrysh
Public Participation
There was no public participation.
DuPage County Hearings
There were no DuPage County hearings.
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Chairperson's Report
The Chairperson deferred to the Assistant Director of Community
Development.
Planner's Report
The Assistant Director of Community Development had no report.
Unfinished Business
There was no unfinished business.
New Business
There was no new business.
Subdivision Reports
There were no subdivision reports.
Site Plan Approvals
There were no site plan approvals.
Workshops
Highlands of Lombard Apartments
Ms. Ganser introduced the workshop on a new multi-family building at
the Highlands of Lombard. The proposed building would be between
the CityView Apartment building and the Dump furniture store on a
piece of land. The land is approximately three acres and zoned
B3PD. The petitioner proposed 181 units. The building is proposed at
5 stories tall and would be accessed off Highland Avenue though the
site is not visible from Butterflied Road of Highland Avenue. Staff
brought forth this workshop to discuss the proposed building materials,
and examples were passed out. The Planned Development requires
that seventy percent (70%) of the building be of brick, stone, split face
block, or cedar. In 2000, the CityView apartments received approval
for a deviation of less than 70% of the required building materials on
the north and west side of the building. Those sides are not seen from
the street. Based on the proposed plans, the new building is mostly
Hardie Board siding which would not meet the 70% requirement. Staff
is seeking Plan Commission input on the building facades.
Acting Chairperson Flint opened the meeting for comments among the
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Commissioners.
Commissioner Burke confirmed that all four sides are not seen from
the street and Ms. Ganser replied yes. He asked if the CityView
deviation was given because the two sides did not face the street and
Ms. Ganser replied yes. He added he would be comfortable with that
for a new building.
Commissioner Mrofcza asked if the thin-set brick would be considered
brick. Ms. Ganser said yes, that thin-set brick is thinner but still
considered brick. Commissioner Mrofcza asked what percentage of a
deviation would be required and Ms. Ganser said that approximately
20% to 30% of the building would be brick or stone. He asked if they
would want to deviate that far.
Commissioner Sweetser asked about the durability of the new
materials. She noted that the visibility is important like it was at the
CityView apartments.
Commissioner Burke asked who the development agreement was with
and Ms. Ganser said it was the agreement for the Highlands of
Lombard.
The Commissioners discussed the cedar component of the
agreement.
Commissioner Burke asked what other materials the CityView
Apartments used and Ms. Ganser said they also used Portland
Cement.
Mr. Larry Debb, explained the building layout.
Ms. Ganser gave the Plan Commissioners more detail on the
percentages of brick versus Hardie Board.
Mr. Rankin, the project architect, noted the Hardie Board is a
fabricated material and there will also be simulated cedar to look like
cedar sliding. Ms. Ganser noted her percentages only account for
brick and stone and the Hardie Board would require a deviation.
Mr. Debb noted that Hardie Board is very durable. It is a stained
product.
Ms. Ganser clarified that the final development agreement in the
Highlands of Lombard requires the exterior façade to be of certain
materials, or receive a deviation from the Village Board.
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Mr. Debb noted the Hardie Board was not readily available in the past
and that some communities do consider it to be a stone.
Commissioner Burke said the new material of Hardie Board could take
the place of the cedar. He said the brick, stone, and Hardie board is
at 100% of the building. The Commissioners discussed this in
relation to a deviation.
Commissioner Sweetser asked if a deviation would still be required.
Ms. Ganser said staff did not view the Hardie Board as a required
material. Commissioner Sweetser clarified that the foundation is from
the materials being passed around.
Mr. Panfil noted that if the Commissioners wanted to add Hardie
Board as an acceptable material the Planned Development Ordinance
would need to be amended.
Commissioner Flint asked if other development would come forward at
the Highlands and Ms. Ganser said this is the last remaining vacant
lot.
The elevations were shown for clarification purposes.
Commissioner Burke asked if the building was steel and the architect
said yes.
Text Amendment, Sign Ordinance (number of wall signs)
Mr. Panfil presented the workshop Wall Signage, to the Plan
Commission for informational purposes and discussion. Mr. Panfil
began by stating the workshop is related to recent requests including
the Famous Liquors petition heard in PC 14-37 regarding multiple wall
signs. Generally the request originates in incorporating a logo into a
business’s name or the façade of the building that has been updated
to a narrow, horizontal design. He stated this image could be seen in
the memo. Currently in the B Zoning Districts, only one wall sign is
permitted per street front exposure or tenant space. Single tenants
that occupy corner lots or tenants of multi-tenant centers that occupy
the exterior corner of the shopping center are allowed an additional
wall sign to face the second street exposure. The maximum allowable
square footage of signage is determined by the tenant’s lineal footage
along the street exposure of each street in this case.
Staff conducted research on eighteen neighboring communities
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regarding regulations of wall signs. While more than half of the
communities restrict the number of wall signs to one, as does the
Village of Lombard, there appears to be a trend underway that other
communities are moving away from this restriction by using a
maximum square footage amount permitted. Mr. Panfil referred to the
chart in the memo nothing the majority of the surrounding communities
still follow the Lombard example while both Villa Park and Woodridge
recently changed their code in order to accommodate logos and
changes in font in sign designs.
Over the past decade, a number of petitions have been heard by the
Plan Commission and Village Board for final approval to allow for
more than one wall sign per tenant space.
Questions have arisen as staff has had to advise businesses that
seeking zoning relief is the only option when attempting to design wall
signs within the maximum allowable square footage. Mr. Panfil asked
if the Village should specify the number of wall signs or should the
approach be to divide the overall square footage into multiple signs
but still need to meet the maximum size determined by existing
formulas.
Second, should the Village change the way the area of a sign is
calculated. The sign area could be measured using the area of the
smallest straight line geometric feature which can wholly enclose the
surface area of the sign. In the event that the individual letters or
insignis of a wall sign are attached directly to the wall and vary
significantly in size, the sign area may be calculated using the smallest
straight line geometric feature per word or insignias. Mr. Panfil stated
this could be seen in Exhibit A.
Finally, Mr. Panfil asked should these proposed amendments be
extended to the Office Districts and Industrial Districts to allow multiple
signs provided they do not exceed the maximum allowable square
footage of tenant space.
Acting Chairperson Flint opened the meeting for comments among the
Commissioners.
Commissioner Sweetser asked if this excludes the distance of the
roadway. Mr. Panfil said it would maintain it and they are not looking
to change it at this time.
Commissioner Burke said in question two and looking the third
example in Exhibit A, was fair and was okay with the measurement.
He also said he would say yes to question number three.
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Mr. Panfil asked in question one if it’s okay to allow multiple signs
provided the total square footage is still maintained when dividing
them up. Commissioner Mrofcza and Commissioner Burke said yes.
Commissioner Sweetser said yes to question one, two and three.
Commissioner Cooper said for item number one to consider putting
the maximum number signs, maybe two is appropriate. She said it
could be divided up very small and then you end up with signage
clutter.
Commissioner Mrofcza stated that in order to be more accommodating
we need to take a look at these periodically in consideration of the
deviations that are being requested so that some of these businesses
don’t have to come for such a small deviation.
Mr. Panfil said he felt the discussion would help staff draft an
ordinance.
Adjournment
A motion was made by Commissioner Sweetser, seconded by Commissioner
Cooper, to adjourn the meeting at 8:32 p.m. The motion carried by the
following vote:
Aye: 5- Martin Burke, Ruth Sweetser, Andrea Cooper, John Mrofcza, and
Stephen Flint
Absent: 2- Donald F. Ryan, and Ronald Olbrysh
__________________________
Stephen E. Flint, Vice Chairperson
Lombard Plan Commission
__________________________
Jennifer Ganser, Secretary
Lombard Plan Commission
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Agenda
Village Hall
Village of Lombard 255 East Wilson Ave.
Lombard, IL 60148
villageoflombard.org
Meeting Agenda
Plan Commission
Donald F. Ryan, Chairperson
Commissioners: Ronald Olbrysh, Martin Burke,
Ruth Sweetser, Andrea Cooper, Stephen Flint and
John Mrofcza
Staff Liaison: Jennifer Ganser
Monday, January 26, 2015 7:30 PM Village Hall - Board Room
Call to Order
Pledge of Allegiance
Roll Call of Members
Public Hearings
150014 PC 15-01: 86 Eisenhower Lane North, Downers Grove Boxing and
Martial Arts, LLC.
Requests that the Village grant a conditional use, pursuant to Section
155.420 (C) (18) of the Zoning Ordinance, to allow for a Learning Center
(indoor athletic training facility) within the I Limited Industrial District.
(DISTRICT #3)
Business Meeting
Approval of Minutes
Request to approve the December 15, 2014 minutes.
Public Participation
A 15-minute period is allowed for public comments on any issue related to the Plan
Commission.
DuPage County Hearings
There are no DuPage County hearings.
Chairperson's Report
As presented by the Plan Commission Chairperson.
Planner's Report
As presented by the Assistant Director of Community Development.
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Unfinished Business
There is no unfinished business.
New Business
There is no new business.
Subdivision Reports
There are no subdivision reports.
Site Plan Approvals
There are no site plan approvals.
Workshops
1. Highlands of Lombard Apartments
2. Text Amendment, Sign Ordinance (number of wall signs)
Adjournment
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