Special Meeting Board of Trustees
Special MeetingLombard, IL · January 24, 2019
Minutes
Village of Lombard
Village Hall
255 East Wilson Ave.
Lombard, IL 60148
villageoflombard.org
Minutes
Thursday, January 24, 2019
7:00 PM
Board Room
Special Meeting Board of Trustees
Village President Keith Giagnorio,
Village Clerk Sharon Kuderna,
Trustee Dan Whittington, Trustee Mike Fugiel,
Trustee Reid Foltyniewicz, Trustee Bill Johnston,
Trustee Robyn Pike and Trustee Bill Ware
Special Meeting Board of Trustees Minutes January 24, 2019
I Call to Order
The Special Meeting of the President and Board of Trustees of the
Village of Lombard held on Thursday, January 24, 2019 in the Board
Room of the Lombard Village Hall was called to order by Village
President Keith Giagnorio at 7:02 p.m.
II Pledge of Allegiance
Chief of Police Roy Newton led the Pledge of Allegiance.
III Roll Call
Present 8 - Keith Giagnorio, Sharon Kuderna, Dan Whittington, Mike Fugiel, Reid
Foltyniewicz, Bill Johnston, Robyn Pike, and Bill Ware
Staff Present:
Village Manager Scott Niehaus
Director of Finance Tim Sexton
Director of Community Development Bill Heniff
Chief of Police Roy Newton
Fire Chief Richard Sander
Assistant Village Manager Nicole Aranas
Communications Coordinator Avis Meade
Executive Coordinator Carol Bauer
IV Public Participation
V Agenda
180450 Video Gaming
Review of recommendations from Village Standing Committees in
regard to video gaming, discussion in regard to video gaming within the
corporate limits of the Village of Lombard, and possible direction in
regard to the next steps, if any, relative to video gaming within the
corporate limits of the Village of Lombard.
Village Manager Scott Niehaus provided the following overview:
Transparency & Communication: at the August 16th Village Board
meeting business owners requested the Village Board reconsider the
current ban on video gaming; at the September 20th Village Board
meeting, the Board requested video gaming be reviewed by four
Standing Committees (Finance & Administration, Public Safety &
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Transportation, Community Relations and Economic & Community
Development; a link was added to the Village website dedicated to the
topic of video gaming including agendas, minutes, powerpoints, FAQ's,
video clips, and press releases; a dedicated e-mail address was also
developed videogaming@villageoflombard.org; statistics were provided
relative to communications efforts including E-Pride newsletter, featured
story on Village website, video gaming webpage, social media postings,
Lombardian coverage including coverage of each Standing Committee's
recommendation; letters and e-mails to the Village Board included three
(3) in support and eighteen (18) opposed; signed petition including
one-hundred-sixty-two (162) in support of video gaming; on-line petition
with seventy-four (74) in support and two-hundred-forty-six (246)
opposed; as well as update on comments made at the Standing
Committee meetings.
Committee Recommendations: Finance & Administration voted 7 to 0 in
favor; Public Safety & Transportation voted 9 to 0 in favor; Community
Relations voted 6 to 1 in favor; ECDC voted 4 to 2 in favor.
Video Gaming in IL: Illinois Video Gaming Act was approved in 2000
authorizing up to five (5) gaming terminals in retail locations, truck stops
and fraternal establishments.
Video Gaming in Lombard: local ban established in 2010 (Ordinance
6442); hearings and public comments taken on video gaming in 2014
with majority of comments in opposition; Village Board voted in 2014 to
uphold the video gaming ban.
Why Discuss this Issue Again? What is Different Now?: businesses are
requesting gaming ban be lifted; video gaming has been widely
implemented since 2009 and has been instituted in neighboring
communities; more data and information available now from other
communities on their experiences, finances and impacts.
Where is Video Gaming Allowed: 986 Illinois governing bodies have
approved gaming; 16 municipalities in DuPage County permit video
gaming and 16 in DuPage County ban video gaming.
State Restrictions on Video Gaming: business type - alcohol sold for
consumption on premises, truck stops, and fraternal establishments;
location may not be within one-hundred (100) feet of a school or church;
no more than five (5) machines at any one premise; area in
establishment restricted to 21+, within employee view of area, no one
under 21 may be at a terminal; hours only open during regular business
hours; maximum wager for any single hand is $2; payout by tickets only
and maximum cash award for any single hand is $500.
Video Gaming Fund Distribution: net gaming revenues (less payouts to
winners) are taxed at 30% rate (25% to IL and 5% to municipality;
remaining 70% revenue is divided between business establishment and
terminal operators (35% each).
Anticipated Revenues for Lombard: revenue to Lombard would ultimately
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depend on how many businesses choose to adopt gaming and how
many machines they each elect; average revenue for DuPage County
municipalities where gaming is allowed ($97,958 in 2015; $130,962 in
2016; $159,458 in 2017 and $183,013 trailing 12 months of September
2017 to August 2018).
Estimated Local Revenues: estimated number of terminals in Lombard
(40-50); average revenue per terminal in DuPage County ($3,293);
estimated Village revenue ($131,720 to $164,640).
Policy Issues/Possible Conditions: State of Illinois sets forth minimum
standards and regulations for video gaming; local municipalities may opt
to enact additional regulatory restrictions pertaining to local applicants
and license holders; policy issues and possible conditions for Board
consideration have been identified for further discussion.
Gaming Revenue Limitations: limiting the percentage of income received
from video gaming to a certain percentage of the overall gross income of
the restaurant; businesses would be subject to an annual audit to verify
compliance with this section; this type of limitation ensures that
establishments do not rely on video gaming as their primary source of
revenue (ensures gaming is an accessory use to primary food and
beverage sales).
License Waiting Periods: waiting period for licensees (operation for one
year prior to application for license); limitation ensures that licensed
businesses are established entities capable of operations without
reliance on video gaming; waiting period applicable to the business
entity and not individual licensees.
Good Standing: licensee for any Class "V" liquor license must be in good
standing with the Village.
Security & Public Safety Requirements: licenses to install and operate
video camera surveillance capturing clear recordings retained for a
minimum time period (e.g. 30 days) and subject to inspection by the
Police Department upon request; licensed establishment shall be
equipped with a direct-connect burglar alarm system to centralized
dispatch to protect against unpermitted entry to the establishment.
Promotional Signage Restrictions: it shall be unlawful to advertise video
gaming via a sign visible from any street, alley or public right-of-way
within the Village (includes external facing interior or window signage);
regulations protect character of business districts and discourage
promotion of video gaming to general public; while several municipalities
have adopted this type of restriction upon signage, it may be subject to
legal challenge.
Liquor License Classifications: Village has 79 total liquor license holders
across 25 different liquor license classes (65 on-premise consumption
licenses/14 packaged goods only); video gaming would require creation
of a new Class "V" liquor license to permit both on-premise alcohol
consumption and video gaming.
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Possible Class "V" permitted classes include A/B-II, A/B-III, A/B-IV, D, I,
M, N1, S, XX and Z.
Possible Prohibited Classes include A/B-I, C, E, GGG, JJ, K, L-1/L-2, O,
P, R, TI/TII, TIII, U, V, VV, and X.
Action/Direction Being Sought Today: review information and committee
recommendations; review policy issues; opportunity for additional public
comment; direction or recommendation regarding this matter related to
policy matters and/or next steps; no final action.
Next steps: additional public comment; Board discussion;
direction/recommendations; continued commitment to transparency and
communications on this matter.
Trustee Foltyniewicz questioned the number of establishments that might
opt to allow video gaming if the ban was lifted. Response: 35
establishments of the 79 liquor license holders could opt to allow video
gaming; corporate offices may not allow local establishments to have
video gaming; locally-owned businesses would most likely be the
businesses that would opt to have video gaming.
Trustee Johnston asked about the number of terminals in DuPage
County. Response: as of August 2018 it appears that there were 722
terminals; policy issues would still need to be established; revenue from
gaming would be limited and could not be the primary source of revenue
for any establishment; policy would be set by the Village Board and
would be sent to the Finance & Administration Committee for review
before the Village Board made any final decisions on policy; Mount
Prospect has a 30% limit on revenue from video gaming; the Village
Board would give staff direction on policy; the policy would be enforcible
through Lombard's liquor code and any establishments that would want to
have video gaming would be subject to following the policy and the liquor
code; liquor license holders eligible for video gaming would not have to
apply to have video gaming if they did not choose to offer it; new
establishments would be required to wait twelve (12) months before
being allowed to have video gaming on their premises.
President Giagnorio inquired about a new business being opened, but
the owner already has a liquor license and if that owner would need to
wait twelve (12) months. Response: that would be a policy decision.
Trustee Johnston inquired about the sale of a business allowing video
gaming and if the new owner would need to wait for twelve months; how
would inspections be handled; what about businesses like Enchanted
Castle. Response: video gaming inspections would be included along
with other Village-required inspections; only certain liquor license classes
would be allowed to have video gaming and other establishments (such
as Enchanted Castle) would not be included in those liquor license
holders that would be allowed to have video gaming on the premises.
Village Manager Niehaus reminded all that no final action relative to
video gaming would be taken tonight and this workshop was to allow the
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Village Board to review recommendations of Standing Committee, allow
residents and businesses to speak and to provide some direction to
staff.
Trustee Johnston inquired about hours of operation. Response: video
gaming would only be allowed during regular hours of operation that the
business is open; State does not mandate hours.
President Giagnorio reminded everyone of the three minute time limit for
speaking during Public Participation.
1. Marymae Meyer spoke opposing video gaming and noted that she
had attended all four of the Standing Committee meetings where video
gaming was reviewed. She asked if the Village Board members had
received inquiries directly from residents. Response: e-mails were
funneled to Carol Bauer for response and monitoring.
2. Liam Quirke, representing Punky's Pub being in business in Lombard
for nearly 46 years, read a letter urging the Village Board to lift the ban on
video gaming and allow the businesses to decide if they want to offer
video gaming to its customers.
3. David Arnold spoke about Lombard being pro-business; was in
support of the Village Board allowing businesses to have the choice of
offering video gaming; stated that he himself would not play the video
gaming machines; felt residents are going to other towns to play video
gaming machines; spoke of the loss of revenue to Lombard; noted
competitive business and businesses having a rough time; asked the
Board to support business owners and give them a choice to have video
gaming machines.
4. Larry Bock stated he has lived in Lombard for 59 years; speaking on
behalf of the Moose and the 2,400 lodges across 50 states; spoke of
video gaming generating revenue; felt it was foolish not to embrace video
gaming as a revenue stream not only to the Village, but to organizations
like the Moose who raise money to help children and adults with
disabilities; felt the added income would help the Moose provide greater
support to the children and adults that they assist; and the Village will not
know unless they give the businesses an opportunity to have video
gaming.
5. Cary Weisgram noted she was a new resident; was opposed to video
gaming; spoke of an article in the Sun Times relative to video gaming;
spoke about risk factors, problem gambling, domestic abuse; urged the
Village to do a study on video gaming and hire an actuary.
6. Mary Cation, a thirty-year resident and member of the Finance &
Administration Committee stated she as a member voted to approve
video gaming as the committee was asked to review video gaming as
far as the financial aspect; she personally is opposed to video gaming;
feels it negatively impacts potential new residents from moving to
Lombard and negatively impacts property values.
7. Gary Cation, a thirty-year resident and member of the Public Safety &
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Transportation Committee, voted based on review by the committee to
review safety issues; felt video gaming had ramifications; did not want to
see Lombard be like Forest Park.
8. Lynne Magnavite opposed video gaming and felt for the small amount
of income to the Village, it was not worth the image of the Village to be
changed by allowing video gaming; felt video gaming restrictions would
not change perception based on allowing video gaming; she is proud to
be a Lombardian.
9. Maryann O'Neill spoke on behalf of O'Neill's; resident since 1971 with
four children and 9 grandchildren; business owner has given back to the
community by supporting baseball teams and hosting fundraisers; spoke
of investing in Lombard with business and home and paying all the fees
and licenses in operating a business; felt video gaming was more than
5% to the Village, also impacts Places for Eating Tax; losing business to
other communities; requested the Village Board support the businesses
and help keep them operational; spoke of businesses hurting and this a
way to help maintain their businesses; the businesses are asking for
help.
10. Theresa Brzyzinski, representing O'Neill's, spoke supporting video
gaming and allowing the businesses to decide if they want to offer video
gaming to its patrons; spoke of working locally as well as for LTC; spoke
of patrons going to other towns that offer video gaming; Lombard
businesses and Village losing money; other towns offer video gaming;
competition on the Lombard businesses.
11. Vicky Topalidis spoke in support of video gaming and that you can
gamble on your phone; businesses are competing and need to be able
to offer incentives for residents to patronize local businesses and not go
to other towns that offer video gaming; video gaming is a source of
entertainment; asked the Village Board to allow businesses the
opportunity to have video gaming.
12. Brendon Fitzharris, owner of bars in other communities and would
look to open a bar in Lombard if video gaming was allowed; bars thriving
with video gaming because patrons want to go where video gaming is
offered; bars with video gaming can charge less for drinks and food and
make up the profit on the video gaming; bar business is hard; compared
liquor sales in bar with video gaming compared to a bar without video
gaming.
13. Tami Urish stated she has been a resident since 1994 and opposes
video gaming.
14. Chris Golden, long-time resident, spoke opposing video gaming;
drains the pockets of those people who become addicts; felt businesses
needed better management and/or marketing if they are losing business.
15. Dana Moreau, 21-year resident and business owner, spoke against
video gaming; spoke of the top 11 concerns and the reasons she is
opposed to video gaming; spoke of adding the video gaming question to
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a referendum allowing the residents to vote on the matter.
16. Christian Hess, 49-year resident, questioned what is the Village's
brand, what do we stand for; what are our values; this is not about right or
wrong; do not judge people or activities; feels anything needs to be
filtered through values; video gaming was not in values he grew up with;
16 communities in DuPage County have video gaming and 16 do not
have; who does the Village aspire to; does the Village want to aspire to
be a community like Oakbrook Terrace or be more like Wheaton or Glen
Ellyn; 5% of revenue to Village is not that much money; what is good for a
handful of businesses or for the residents.
17. Brian Gorski stated he loves Lombard; shops local to support
businesses in town; values the small business and wants to help keep the
small businesses in Lombard; does not support video gaming; spoke of
tiered school system.
President Giagnorio noted that there will be no final action taken on video
gaming at this time, there is no physical ordinance and no specific
direction on policy and/or restrictions.
Trustee Whittington questioned the process for a referendum.
Response: not enough time for a non-binding referendum to be placed
on April 2019 election; resolution requesting a referendum must be
passed seventy-nine (79) days prior to the election; March 2020 would
be the soonest election that a referendum could be scheduled.
Trustee Foltyniewicz asked how many businesses the Village has lost
due to the ban on video gaming.
Director of Community Development Bill Heniff indicated he was not
aware of any businesses that closed or moved due to not being able to
have video gaming.
Trustee Ware asked if a referendum would really give a feel of the
community with regard to video gaming when only 10-12% of the voters
come out to vote in a regular election with 43,000+ residents.
Trustee Foltyniewicz felt the 10% who come out to vote voted for the
Village Board and elected the Trustees to represent them.
Trustee Fugiel noted that the primary election turnout was 33.08%, but for
Park District or School District elections the percentage drops to about
10.84%; questioned wording on the ballot and referenced the most
recent referendum relative to the Library.
President Giagnorio questioned where does the Village Board draw the
line on what goes to a referendum and what should be decided by the
Village Board on behalf of the residents.
Trustee Johnston noted that only 20 people spoke opposing video
gaming and 7 spoke supporting video gaming and he did not feel that
was a large enough percentage to provide true input to the Village
Board; felt more residents might vote if video gaming was placed on the
ballot; he felt placing video gaming on the ballot would give clearer
representation of feelings of the residents; he stated he was doing the
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job the residents asked him to do; spoke of transparency; felt a
referendum would allow people to express their opinions.
Trustee Pike noted the Village Board not only represents the residents,
but also represents the businesses; business owners came to the Village
asking the Village Board to review allowing video gaming; spoke of
looking at the whole picture.
Trustee Johnston noted that both business owners and residents need to
speak and business owners who do not reside in the Village and cannot
vote can have employees vote who live in Lombard.
Trustee Ware stated that 10 residents spoke, not 20; Village Board
relies heavily on committees and committee input; committees were
asked to look at the pros and cons of video gaming based on their
specific committee and all four supported video gaming; no safety
concerns with allowing video gaming.
Trustee Johnston noted that the committees were assigned to review
only a very specific item as it related to that committee and video gaming
and not to include personal feelings relative to video gaming in their vote.
Trustee Ware stated that seven months ago, business owners attended a
Village Board meeting to request the Village Board review the option of
lifting the ban on video gaming in Lombard; a referendum would delay
action on video gaming for over a year and a half; this is not fair to the
businesses.
Trustee Foltyniewicz noted that he would like more statistics on video
gaming and if towns that allow video gaming have more businesses
moving in compared to towns that do not allow video gaming.
Village Manager Niehaus noted that staff will review and assemble
statistics relative to this request.
Trustee Foltyniewicz stated he sympathizes with business owners.
Trustee Ware spoke of the Bull Dog Ale House moving into a vacant
store in Villa Park on Roosevelt Road and will have video gaming; spoke
of impact Bull Dog Ale House will have on Roosevelt Road businesses in
Lombard who currently cannot offer video gaming; felt Bull Dog Ale
House could have come to Lombard, but wanted a town that allows video
gaming;
Trustee Foltyniewicz noted that other restaurants like Yard House have
moved into Lombard even though we do not allow video gaming.
Trustee Whittington asked how many businesses would leave without
video gaming.
Village Clerk Kuderna stated she felt the businesses should be given the
option of having video gaming; a business can decide if they want to
have video gaming or not have it, but felt the business should be allowed
to have a choice; did not feel the Village should dictate that a business
cannot have video gaming if the business wants it.
Trustee Foltyniewicz talked about a business and what the business
owner wants to do with his/her business; stated he is not a smoker and
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the government now regulates that no smoking is allowed in restaurants
and bars in Illinois; he noted that video gaming can be a distraction to
other patrons if it is allowed and a smaller business tries to fit video
gaming into a small space.
Village Clerk Kuderna felt people should have a choice.
Trustee Ware felt the businesses should be allowed to have a choice and
that the residents also have a choice whether they want to patronize a
business that allows video gaming or not; people make choices every
day; not in favor of a referendum; business owners came to the Village
Board in July 2018 and felt the Board needed to treat the businesses
fairly and equally; hurting businesses if the Village Board does not
consider allowing video gaming.
President Giagnorio noted that it appeared the Village Board did not
have a consensus on the direction of video gaming.
Trustee Ware felt the Village Board was listening and getting educated
relative to video gaming; talked about many restrictions relative to video
gaming; felt the Village Board needed to discuss further.
President Giagnorio suggested staff be directed to have an ordinance
drafted relative to allowing video gaming including restrictions and an
ordinance be drafted relative to placing a referendum on a ballot; that
these would draft ordinances were for further discussion, and would be
working documents that could used to further review video gaming; noted
he is not rushing an answer relative to video gaming; felt having draft
documents would make review easier.
Village Manager Niehaus noted this will take some research and could
be prepared for another workshop in early to mid-March.
President Giagnorio felt having both documents drafted would be
beneficial.
Trustee Whittington spoke of new members on the Village Board in May;
asked about signage. Response: content based restrictions.
President Giagnorio felt drafted documents would assist with discussion
relative to video gaming; the Village Board needs to take time; asked if
the Village Board concurred.
Trustee Fugiel noted that two Trustees would not be on the Board
following the election and did not feel it was fair to have new Trustees
review this matter.
President Giagnorio felt review of this matter would take time. It was the
consensus of the Village Board to request staff draft an ordinance to
allow video gaming and draft an ordinance to place a referendum relative
to video gaming on an upcoming election; further review would be done.
Village Manager Niehaus noted once a date was determined for another
workshop, the date would be shared and communication completed
relative to video gaming.
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A motion was made by Trustee Bill Ware, seconded by Trustee Mike Fugiel,
that staff be directed to draft an ordinance to allow video gaming and draft an
ordinance to place a referendum relative to video gaming on an upcoming
election with further review of the two proposed ordinances to be done at a
Village Board Workshop with a date to be determined. The motion carried by
the following vote:
Aye: 6- Dan Whittington, Mike Fugiel, Reid Foltyniewicz, Bill Johnston, Robyn
Pike, and Bill Ware
VI Adjournment
A motion was made by Trustee Dan Whittington, seconded by Trustee Bill
Johnston, that the Special Meeting of the President and Board of Trustees of
the Village of Lombard held on Thursday, January 24, 2019 in the Board Room
of the Lombard Village Hall be adjourned at 8:50 p.m. The motion carried by
the following vote:
Aye: 6- Dan Whittington, Mike Fugiel, Reid Foltyniewicz, Bill Johnston, Robyn
Pike, and Bill Ware
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Agenda
Village of Lombard
Village Hall
255 East Wilson Ave.
Lombard, IL 60148
villageoflombard.org
Meeting Agenda
Thursday, January 24, 2019
7:00 PM
Board Room
Special Meeting Board of Trustees
Village President Keith Giagnorio,
Village Clerk Sharon Kuderna,
Trustee Dan Whittington, Trustee Mike Fugiel,
Trustee Reid Foltyniewicz, Trustee Bill Johnston,
Trustee Robyn Pike and Trustee Bill Ware
Special Meeting Board of Trustees Meeting Agenda January 24, 2019
I Call to Order
II Pledge of Allegiance
III Roll Call
IV Public Participation
V Agenda
180450 Video Gaming
Review of recommendations from Village Standing Committees in regard
to video gaming, discussion in regard to video gaming within the corporate
limits of the Village of Lombard, and possible direction in regard to the next
steps, if any, relative to video gaming within the corporate limits of the
Village of Lombard.
Legislative History
10/22/18 Finance & Administration approve as amended
Committee
11/7/18 Public Safety & approved with conditions
Transportation Committee
11/12/18 Community Relations approved
Committee
12/10/18 Economic & Community approved with conditions
Development Committee
VI Adjournment
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