Liquor Commission
Regular MeetingNaperville, IL · November 8, 2018
Minutes
400 S. Eagle Street
City of Naperville Naperville, IL 60540
Meeting Minutes
Liquor Commission
Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:00 PM Council Chambers
A. CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Chirico called the meeting to order at 3:00pm.
B. ROLL CALL:
Present 8- Marc Blackman, Mayor Steve Chirico, Pam Davis, Charles Maher, Paul O'Toole,
Whitney Robbins, Scott Wehrli, and Kimberly White
Absent 2- Mitch Stauffer, and Joe Vozar
C. PUBLIC FORUM:
There was no one to speak under Public Forum.
D. OLD BUSINESS:
Council Update - Class P & S amendments
Jennifer Lutzke, Senior Assistant City Attorney, stated that at last night's City
Council meeting, the City Council approved the recommended amendments to
the Class P & S liquor licenses. This will remove the serving limitations for
Solemn Oath Brewery. We did add an additonal requirement that 75% of what
they offer for sale has to be their own labeled product. We offered clarrification
on the Market Event Permit, which was increased to twelve (12) per year. We
added language stating that they have to pay a fee for each Marketing Event
Permit. The Class S increase from 12oz to 18oz passed City Council. These
changes are for all businesses under the Class P and Class S. This agenda
item passed 8 - 1.
E. NEW BUSINESS:
Consider Bombay Chopsticks and Whirly Ball’s request to increase the cap in Late Night
Permits located outside of Downtown.
Jagmohan Jayara and Joel Lipman were present to request a Late Night Permit
for Bombay Chopsticks. This is an Indian Chinese Restaurant. This is their
second restaurant of this concept. The other restaurant is in Hoffman Estates.
They don't serve beef or pork.
They feel they need a Late Night Permit because Indian people like to eat late. It
will only be for Friday and Saturdays. The other days they close at 10pm.
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They are applying for a Class B Restaurant/Tavern. They will not have an
Entertainment Permit.
Late Night is capped at 41 for out of downtown.
He owns 5 resturants. He has not had any violations.
Commissioner Maher asked how many late night permits are there in that
geographical area. There aren't very many.
Mayor Chirico spoke on behalf of Whirly Ball who were unable to attend the
meeting. They are also requesting a Late Night Permit. They are located near
Top Golf.
Mayor Chirico asked if there are any additional restaurants coming that would
need a Late Night Permit. We do not know of any who are coming at this time.
Commissioner Blackman moved to approve both requests and raise the Late
Night cap by 2, seconded by Commissioner Davis.
Aye: 7- Blackman, Davis, Maher, O'Toole, Robbins, Wehrli, and White
Excused: 1- Mayor Chirico
Absent: 2- Stauffer, and Vozar
Consider Urban Air Adventure Park’s request to increase the Class M - Recreational
license cap and direct staff accordingly.
Len Monson was present representing Urban Air, LLC requesting a Class M
license. The location is on Rt. 59, the former Baby's R Us space. The building is
73,000 sq. ft of which 51,000 sq. ft. will be used as an indoor adventure park
which includes a trampoline, a ropes course, indoor zip line, virtual reality
feature, rock climbing walls, dodge ball, basketball area and a gocart track. 70%
of their customers are under 16 years old. They have a lot of birthday parties.
They will have a cafe with a convection kitchen serving pizzas, hotdogs, and
chicken tenders. The cafe will be about 30ft by 40ft. The beer and wine is for the
parents of their customers. Business hours are Monday, Tuesday and
Thursday 3pm - 8pm, Wednesday and Sunday 10am - 8pm, Friday and
Saturday 10am - 11pm. The Urban Air concept is a franchise and has been in
business since 2010 or 2011. Currently there are over 200 sites in the United
States. Urban Air has special procedures for the serving of alcohol. If someone
purchases alcohol, then they can no longer take part in any of the activities. No
alcohol is allowed near any of the attractions.
Commissioner Blackman asked for an explanation on the location of where the
alcohol would be served. Mr. Monson showed on a diagram the location of the
alcohol. There is a wall that separates the tables in the cafe from the gocart
area.
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Commissioner Wehrli asked if the service of liquor was through a customer
service bar where the alcohol is being served by servers. It is a customer
service bar. The ID check would be at the point of sale. Pitchers of alcohol
would not be sold but Mr. Monson could not answer if the alcohol is restricted to
the cafe area.
Commissioner Maher asked from the 200 stores, how many served alcohol. Mr.
Monson could not answer that question. It is only beer and wine.
Commissioner Blackman asked for the hours when they would be allowed to
sell alcohol. Emy Trotz, Executive Assistant to the Mayor, responded that they
are allowed to sell alcohol as long as the activity is taking place.
Commissioner White asked for an explanation of the wristbands. Mr. Monson
stated that people buy time on the attractions. They receive a wristband that
shows that they've paid. There is also a time stamp to designate the period of
time they may be on the attractions. When someone purchases a alcoholic
beverage, the wristband is cut off.
Commissioner Davis asked if they had a lease on the portion of the building
they will be using. They do have a lease and would like to open February 1st.
Commissioner Maher asked if they would open up without alcohol. Mr. Monson
couldn't answer that question.
Commissioner Blackman was concerned if this is something that should be
considered seeing that 70% of the clientele is under 16 years of age. Mr.
Monson stated that this is similar to a Chuckee Cheese.
Commissioner Blackman moved to increase the cap on the Class M license by
one, seconded by Commissioner Robins.
Aye: 7- Blackman, Davis, Maher, O'Toole, Robbins, Wehrli, and White
Excused: 1- Mayor Chirico
Absent: 2- Stauffer, and Vozar
Report on the passing of SB 2436 regarding the Liquor Control Act of 1934.
Jennifer Lutzke Senior Assistant City Attorney, stated that on August 2, 2018
Governor Rauner signed a new law that allows the local Liquor Commissioner
to grant exemptions with in a 100ft of a church, school or any business with in
the 100ft exemption. Each municipality is required to have language in their
code that allows for the local Liquor Commissioner to have that authority. In
order for Naperville to have our local Liquor Commissioner to have that authority
we would need a text amendment to our code.
Mayor Chirico stated that the current liquor code prohibits the licensing of a
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business selling alcohol with in 100ft of a church, school or daycare. He is not
recommending a change in that ordinance. It is a State Law change and he
wanted to make everyone aware of that change.
Receive the revised Liquor Commissioner Rules and direct staff accordingly.
Jennifer Lutzke, Senior Assistant City Attorney, stated that she had provided a
copy of the revised Liquor Rules which basically modified the current rules. She
gave a brief summary of the changes.
Article 1 - Rule One Violations of State Statutes or City Ordinances
This purpose of this Rule is to clarify standards used for violations. This was
basically a clean up of language.
Article 2 - Rule Two Procedure for Renewal Application
The purpose of this Rule provides a time line of the schedule for filing renewal
applications. The time line for late fees was shortened because renewals will be
going on line in the near future. Also removed was that managers, assistant
managers and sole proprietors have to be fingerprinted every 5 years.
Article 3 - Rule Three Clarification and Implementation of Certain Sections of
Chapter 3
Provides additional information concerning Dram Shop Insurance requirements.
Also allows the Liquor Commissioner to issue a liquor license for a probationary
period or upon a condition precedent.It also clarifies the definition of an
intoxicated person. We did remove language pertaining from this Rule to the
observation and enforcement of the regulations for package stores and beer
and wine package sales. There was language requiring a partition that was
removed. Liquor confinement restrictions are present in section 3-3-12.8 of the
code. Removed some redundent language and updated the appropriate
citations to the current code.
Article 4 - Rule Four Abandonment and Disuse
This Rule talks about tendering a liquor license to the Liquor Commissioner
when a license becomes inactive, someone stops doing business or is
terminated without renewal.
Article 5 - Rule Five Employees Age Restrictions
Prohibits anyone under twenty one from serving in a managerial capacity. The
title of this Rule was changed from Educational Requirements to Age
Restrictions. We also removed the BASSET training requirements because the
rewrite moved that language into the code. We also removed the FireWatch
Program certification language.
Article 6 - Rule Six
Deleted this Rule. It pertained to Class O liquor licenses and we currently don't
have any Class O licenses.
Article 7 - Rule Seven (Six) Procedures Upon Hearings, Discovery and
Depositions
This Rule talks about procedures for hearing discovery and depositions. This
was moved up to be Rule Six.
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Article 8 - Rule Eight (Seven) Procedure for the Sale and Distribution of
Alcoholic Beverages Under Special Event and Temporary Permits
This provides restrictions for Special Event and Temporary Permit licensees.
We replaced the Class E and Class L language. We deleted the requirement
that sale and distribution of alcoholic beverages stop at 9:30pm. The times will
be in the license and that's what they need to follow. The beer container
restriction was increased to 16 ounces and the wine container restriction was
increased to 6 ounces. This was renumbered to Rule Seven.
Article 9 - Rule Nine (Eight) Form of Applications for Licenses and Renewals
It provides information on where applications and renewal forms are available. It
also talks about the Police Department Background Investigation forms being
part of the application.
Article 10 - Rule Ten (Nine) Residency Requirements
This Rule is regarding clarification of Section 3-3-5.11 of Chapter Three of the
Municipal Code. This clarifies the residency requirement.
Article 11 - Rule Eleven
This Rule talks about clarification of the ownership of the licensed premises.
This was deleted. The referenced code was not included in the rewrite and we
aren't concerned if they own or lease the property.
Article 12 - Rule Twelve
This Rule provided clarification regarding a Class K licensee being exempt from
the requirements of a liquor establishment not being located with in 100 ft of a
church, hospital, home of the aged or indigent person, veterans wives or
children. This Rule was deleted.
Article 13 - Rule Thirteen (Ten)
This clarifies what tasting means under the code. Added licenses that were not
included and renumbered it.
Commissioner Wehrli stated that Article Twelve was in place for Belgio's
Catering which is located near a school.
Jennifer Lutzke replied that in the rewrite of the code under 3-3-12.9 under the
location restriction section, Class K is exempted from that requirement.
Commissioner Blackman made a motion that the Commission has received the
revised rules and accepts them,seconded by Commissioner White.
Aye: 7- Blackman, Davis, Maher, O'Toole, Robbins, Wehrli, and White
Excused: 1- Mayor Chirico
Absent: 2- Stauffer, and Vozar
Consider allowing cash beverage sales for Special and Temporary Permits.
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Detecive Dan Riggs wanted to give a history to everyone about the reason that
beverage tickets are used for beer sales. It started out several years ago
because Ribfest volunteers were taking money. After that it was decided that
tickets would be used instead of taking cash. Since going to beverage tickets
there haven't been issues of taking money because it's more controlled. This
past year with Ribfest, they used the RFID wrist bands. They also took credit
cards and cash. We can't say for certainty that no cash was mishandled
because it wasn't monitored as closely as it was done before when tickets were
in affect. When Detective Riggs learned that this topic was on the agenda, he
reached out to Sergeant Dan Fisher who is in charge of Special Events and
other high ranking officers to get their opinions. They all agree that tickets are
the best method for beverage sales. Ribfest used a bonded company to handle
the cash. Smaller organizations wouldn't be able to afford to hire a bonded
company to handle the cash sales. The tickets have also been a benefit with
last call. Last call at an event means no more ticket sales and it happens before
the beer tents are shut down. Sergeant Fisher reiterated that tickets sales is the
safer way regarding beverage sales. Detective Riggs added that Christkindle
Market uses cameras to monitor their employees.
Commissioner Blackman asked why this topic was in front of the commission.
Mayor Chirico stated that several event organizers have come to him because
making people stand in line to purchase a ticket and then stand in line to get
their drink is not a good experience.
Commissioner O'Toole asked regarding cash sale versus the ticket purchase, if
I have tickets remaining and I missed the last call, can I get my money back.
Usually, you will not get your money back. That seems to be a problem.
Commissioner Wehrli stated that we could differentiate the large events from
small events. It was discussed on what other large events do regarding
beverage ticket sales.
Commissioner Wherli stated that maybe we could check into other events and
see how they handle beverage sales. We could find some Best Practices. The
Liquor companies may even have some suggestions.
Commissioner Davis asked if we could say if you use a bonded company, then
you can take cash.
Detective Riggs said that sounded reasonable.
Commissioner Blackman stated that he feel Commissioner Wehrli has a point.
We are trying to solve something that we are not the experts. If there are
companies or events that are requesting this, then we need to find out what
other municipalities have done.
Mayor Chirico directed staff to reach out to other communities and special
events in the area to find out how beverage sales are handled.
Commissioner Wehrli stated that it has always been the opinion that tickets
reduce over serving. He would like to see information on that.
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Commissioner Maher stated that he would like to find out the beverage sizes at
these other events.
F. REPORTS:
Approval of September 6, 2018 Liquor Commission meeting minutes.
A motion was made by Commissioner Maher, seconded by Commissioner Davis
to approve the September 6, 2018 meeting minutes.
Aye: 7- Blackman, Davis, Maher, O'Toole, Robbins, Wehrli, and White
Excused: 1- Mayor Chirico
Absent: 2- Stauffer, and Vozar
1. Restaurant Association Report - Jeffries
No report.
2. BASSET- Employee Training Statistics - Riggs
Detective Riggs reported that in September we had 114 attend with 25 no
shows and in October 116 attended with 22 no shows.
3. Tobacco Enforcement Review - Riggs
Detective Riggs reported that last weekend they did tobacco checks and two
businesses sold to under age teens.
4. Liquor Report - Riggs
Detective Riggs reported that in September 2017 there were 25 DUI's and
September 2018 there were 19 DUI's.
In October 2017 there were 12 DUI's and in October 2018 there were 17 DUI's.
They did five liquor compliance checks and there were no violations.
5. Liquor Concept Committee Update - Trotz
Trotz reported the following Liquor Concept:
October 18th
Bombay Chopsticks
G. EXECUTIVE SESSION:
H. ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Maher moved to adjourn the meeting at 4:07pm, seconded by
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Commissioner Robbins. The motion was unanimously approved.
/S/ Emy Trotz
Emy Trotz
Executive Assistant/Mayor
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Agenda
City of Naperville
400 S. Eagle Street
Naperville, IL 60540
Meeting Agenda
Thursday, November 8, 2018
3:00 PM
Council Chambers
Liquor Commission
Liquor Commission Meeting Agenda November 8, 2018
A. CALL TO ORDER:
B. ROLL CALL:
C. PUBLIC FORUM:
D. OLD BUSINESS:
18-947 Council Update - Class P & S amendments
E. NEW BUSINESS:
18-943 Consider Bombay Chopsticks and Whirly Ball’s request to increase the
cap in Late Night Permits located outside of Downtown.
18-960 Consider Urban Air Adventure Park’s request to increase the Class M -
Recreational license cap and direct staff accordingly.
18-944 Report on the passing of SB 2436 regarding the Liquor Control Act of
1934.
18-945 Receive the revised Liquor Commissioner Rules and direct staff
accordingly.
Attachments: Amended Rules
Memorandum
18-961 Consider allowing cash beverage sales for Special and Temporary
Permits.
F. REPORTS:
18-946 Approval of September 6, 2018 Liquor Commission meeting minutes.
Attachments: Minutes 090618 B
1. Restaurant Association Report - Jeffries
2. BASSET- Employee Training Statistics - Riggs
3. Tobacco Enforcement Review - Riggs
4. Liquor Report - Riggs
5. Liquor Concept Committee Update - Trotz
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G. EXECUTIVE SESSION:
H. ADJOURNMENT:
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