Transportation Advisory Board
Regular MeetingNaperville, IL · March 5, 2020
Minutes
400 S. Eagle Street
City of Naperville Naperville, IL 60540
Meeting Minutes
Transportation Advisory Board
Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:00 PM Council Chambers
A. CALL TO ORDER:
B. ROLL CALL:
Present: Brown, Fischer, Gustin, Howenstine, Melaniphy
Absent: Meyer, Overholt, Seeberg
C. PUBLIC FORUM:
D. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS:
1. Approve the minutes of the December 5, 2019 Transportation Advisory Board meeting
A motion was made by Gustin, seconded by Fischer to approve the minutes of
the December 5, 2019 Transportation Advisory Board meeting.
Aye: 5 - Brown, Fischer, Gustin, Howenstine, Melaniphy
Nay: 0
2. Provide input on city wide traffic calming measures
Prousa made a presentation discussing traffic calming principles, measures being
considered for the city-wide traffic calming toolkit, measures that are not recommended,
and the speed and volume thresholds for implementing traffic calming. TAB input is being
requested at this meeting, with no formal action. The toolkit document will be presented
at a future meeting for TAB action.
Melaniphy thanked Prousa for an informative presentation and invited TAB members to
ask questions and share their input.
Howenstine suggested providing explanations to clarify technical terms, such as chicane
and bollards.
Gustin asked what we are trying to do with the toolkit. He thought the topic for the
meeting was the Westside traffic study. Prousa responded that the City does not
currently have a traffic calming toolkit that guides this type of work city-wide. The toolkit
is being presented first to define the types of measures and thresholds that could be
applied throughout the City. A public meeting for the Westside traffic study will be held
on April 9th from 5:30 to 7:30 p.m. at the Municipal Center. The data and
recommendations will be shared with the residents during this meeting. The
recommendations will come to TAB after that meeting. Gustin doesn’t understand why
we would limit traffic calming to only certain measures and stated all options should be
included in the toolkit. He noted that he is confused on how certain measures will be
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implemented. Gustin asked if roundabouts are excluded. Prousa responded that traffic
circles are excluded. The City had a program to implement traffic circles in the past and
it was deemed to not be successful. Roundabouts would be considered through an
engineering process for a larger-scale project. Gustin reiterated that he thought the
meeting topic was the Westside study and asked if the study would come to TAB after
the public meeting. Prousa responded yes. Gustin asked if the study will be made
available to the public and TAB. Prousa responded that it will be available on the City
website and at the public meeting. Gustin asked that the TAB members be emailed a
link to the study page on the City website.
Fischer likes that measures are divided into levels and that Level 1 and 2 measures focus
on striping and signage, which are cheaper and effective ways to deal with a lot of issues.
He likes that vertical measures are excluded because they are not effective; drivers only
slow down right at the device and go faster before and after. He is glad to see traffic
circles are not included. He gets nervous that people are confused at them. Fischer
cautions TED from implementing any Level 3 and 4 measures. They are expensive and, if
they don’t work, are hard to remove. Level 3 and 4 measures should be used sparingly.
Fischer asked how the toolkit will be applied to typical resident traffic requests. Prousa
responded that staff follows a data-driven approach to evaluating concerns. Appropriate
data would be collected and, if it meets the thresholds, staff would apply a Level 1 or 2
measure. After those are implemented, a follow-up study will be conducted. Fischer
noted he has seen some of the measures in action, such as the temporary driver
feedback signs and enforcement. He likes that those are mobile and can be moved
around to where they are needed.
Public Comment:
Marilyn Schweitzer likes the concept of having a toolkit. It will help residents from asking
staff for solutions that can’t be implemented She hopes the toolkit will be made available
on the City website along with the criteria for implementing. If the City is doing 40-50
studies a year, that data should be shared too. It would help residents know if their
requests are reasonable or not. The most important thing is having a commitment to
implement the tools. Zone 11 recommendations have not been fully implemented. She
is waiting on the status and would like to know if they are in the queue and at what stage.
Gustin stated he doesn’t think we need a toolkit that excludes certain items and asked
what Ms. Schweitzer thinks about not including all tools. Ms. Schweitzer responded that
residents make their own proposals for measures and that having a toolkit will provide a
standard that will help residents and staff focus on what can be accomplished. Fischer
asked staff if vertical measures are excluded because Police, Fire and Public Works
don’t support. He stated it is helpful to exclude them to help residents understand what
can and can’t be implemented. Melaniphy noted it is important to recognize that climate
impacts what can be implemented. For example, plowing is not a concern for measures
implemented in southern states.
Jennifer Taylor thought the Westside study was on the agenda. Ms. Taylor lives at 309
Spring Street at the edge of downtown and grew up in Brook Crossing at the corner of
95th and Plainfield-Naperville. The traffic issues and the way to handle traffic issues are
very different from north and south Naperville. The toolkit is limiting the options so that
once the April 9th meeting approaches, residents will be told that certain measures can’t
be done. The Level 1 and 2 options are a joke because they already exist in her area and
don’t help. Level 3 and 4 will only work at Washington and Spring and the streets in the
area are not wide enough to implement them. Measures should not be taken out of the
toolkit. Ms. Taylor is concerned that the 85th percentile speed is used as a
measurement. Howenstine asked Ms. Taylor to clarify which measures she feels work.
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Ms. Taylor stated that speed bumps and bulb-outs worked where she lived in Chicago.
Gustin urged staff to not take options out of the toolkit and will not vote yes to a toolkit
that takes options out.
Kathy Benson is disappointed because she did not see a lot of things that are new or
that could be deployed in our community. It would be helpful to know where some of
these measures would be deployed. It would also help if the difference between traffic
calming and engineering work is clarified. She asked how one-way streets, stop sign
placement, and pavement striping fit with the toolkit. With regards to the Westside
study, Level 1 and 2 measures are already present in the Westside neighborhood.
Asked if only the toolkit measures are being looked at for this area or if engineering
measures being considered. Ms. Benson stated that she finds the River Road traffic
circles to be useful except that only two of the three have all-way stops. She would not
eliminate vertical deflections but would include a description of the considerations that
would go into their deployment.
Melaniphy asked if staff wished to respond to any of the technical questions raised.
Hynes responded to clarify the terms roundabout and traffic circle. A traffic circle, like
those located on River Road, is a traffic calming measure. A roundabout is a traffic
control device. It has different geometry than a traffic circle and requires a significant
amount of right-of-way. There is one at 103rd and Honey Locust. Prousa added that
traffic circles are not recommended for the toolkit because the ones previously installed
were found to be not effective and caused maintenance issues. A roundabout is not
included in the toolkit because it is a traffic control measure, not a traffic calming
measure. One could be constructed in Naperville, but it would be the result of an
engineering study.
Howenstine stated then when discussing closing streets or changing streets to be
one-way, that would be traffic diversion, not traffic calming. Impact studies should be
completed before this type of change is approved.
Beth Shaffer-McCarthy asked what measures have been effective in calming traffic in the
neighborhood where the traffic circles are located along River Road since those devices
have not been effective. Prousa responded that the temporary driver feedback signs are
effective and well received by the residents. Ms. Shaffer-McCarthy stated that resident
compliments don’t rise to the level of a data-driven approach for determining if a measure
is effective. Prousa responded that the toolkit prescribes an evaluation following
implementation of a traffic calming measure to obtain data to determine effectiveness.
Ms. Shaffer-McCarthy stated the Westside area has a lot of Level 1 measures and they
have not changed driver behaviors. When looking at the proposed toolkit, many
measures are already in place in her neighborhood and not working and others can’t be
implemented on the roadways. The toolkit doesn’t have a tool to address her concerns.
Prousa responded that the recommended toolkit measures for the Westside
neighborhood will be based on the data collected for the study. Ms. Shaffer-McCarthy is
disappointed that vertical measures are not included.
Melaniphy thanked the residents for participating in the meeting and noted that a vote
would not take place during the meeting. The toolkit will be brought back to TAB at a
future meeting.
Gustin suggested that the toolkit discussion be tabled until the Westside study is
completed.
Howenstine stated she is not in favor of tabling anything. Recommended noting that
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some of the measures are extraordinary and require additional coordination.
Fischer asked when the toolkit will come back to TAB for approval. Prousa responded
that it will be May or June. The Westside recommendations will be released before the
toolkit comes back to TAB.
E. OLD BUSINESS:
Gustin asked for clarification on why a segment along Book Road was included in the
new sidewalk program when it is not incorporated. Hynes responded that the portion of
Book Road is under the City’s jurisdiction because one side is incorporated. When a
property annexes, it is to the far side of the right-of-way, bringing it into the City’s
jurisdiction.
Gustin thanked Hynes for providing information on semi-truck parking and commended
the Police Department for their attention to this, but there are still semi-trucks on Fairway
on a regular basis. This seems to be a safety issue. Two things bother him about the
trucks: they are unsightly and not up to Naperville brand and it is an immense waste of
Police resources to repeatedly ticket the trucks overnight. Gustin can’t believe that there
isn’t an overarching regulation against semi-trucks parking on neighborhood streets and
believes code section 11-3.1 indicates semis can only stop and park if they are delivering
or conducting business, otherwise they must be on a truck route. In the case of Fairway,
they are not actually making deliveries; this is where they are in violation. Gustin would
like City Attorney DiSanto to review this to confirm that this will allow enforcement
outside of the overnight parking regulations. Louden responded that she will discuss with
the City Attorney.
Gustin asked about reports on the commuter lots, stated that City Council has been
discussing the occupancy of the lots and noted that the new lot at the old Public Works
building has been full. Louden confirmed that daily fee spaces are consistently fully
occupied, and that improving occupancy of the permit spaces is an ongoing challenge.
Louden will follow-up to provide information on a work plan that City Council approved in
June 2019. Staff has been aggressively cleaning up the system and will be looking at
how to better manage the commuter parking supply.
Gustin noted that the Route 59 station needs to be cleaned-up again and noted Aurora’s
side is much cleaner. Louden responded that the City of Aurora is responsible for
maintenance on both sides of the Route 59 station. Naperville and Aurora need to enter
into a new agreement about maintenance and will incorporate standards of care.
Fischer asked if TAB will receive a commuter parking quarterly memo in an upcoming
agenda. Louden confirmed that these would be shared.
F. NEW BUSINESS:
G. ADJOURNMENT:
A motion was made by Gustin, seconded by Brown, to adjourn the meeting at
8:36 p.m. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
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Agenda
400 S. Eagle Street
City of Naperville Naperville, IL 60540
Meeting Agenda
Transportation Advisory Board
Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:00 PM Council Chambers
A. CALL TO ORDER:
B. ROLL CALL:
C. PUBLIC FORUM:
D. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS:
1. 20-307 Approve the minutes of the December 5, 2019 Transportation Advisory
Board meeting
2. 20-278 Provide input on city wide traffic calming measures
E. OLD BUSINESS:
F. NEW BUSINESS:
G. ADJOURNMENT:
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