GIS Steering Committee
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · May 20, 2010
Minutes
“Where People Count”
MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS
1000 Civic Center Drive, Niles, Illinois 60714 Telephone (847) 588-8000 Fax (847) 588-8050
GIS Steering Committee Meeting
May 20, 2010
Co-Chairs: Andrew Przybylo – Trustee
George Van Geem – Village Manager
Persons in attendance:
Bob Callero Mayor
Steve Cusick MIS Dept.
Mousa Nazzal Engineering Dept.
Chuck Ostman Community Development Dept.
Bob Pilat Public Services
Andrew Przybylo Trustee
Bill Shaw MIS Dept.
Andrew Vitale MIS Dept.
Rich Wlodarski Community Development Dept.
The meeting was called to order at 8:00 a.m. The minutes of the April 22, 2010 meeting were
approved.
Agenda Item #1 – Old Business – Project Updates
Monument Re-calibration
A.Vitale reported that the re-calibration of the monuments is complete. We have received the
data packet from Adrian. M. Nazzal presented a copy of the final product. A. Vitale changed
the monument data that he represents on our maps. He and S. Cusick will update Atlas later
today. B. Pilat will post the PDFs on the Internet, making the monument information available
to all with Internet access.
We have 26 monuments. A. Vitale has more confidence in the monument points than
previously.
It was noted that the information on the website is secure. Information can be accessed, not
changed. Users will be able to download each individual sheet for each monument, or all of
them as one packet. S. Cusick will look into creating a link between the monuments on the Atlas
map and the webpage.
Parcel & Assessment Data Update
A.Vitale and S. Cusick have almost finished the process of inputting the new parcel and
assessment data from Cook County. They hope to finish today.
Agenda Item #2 – Departmental Projects
Sewer & Water Mapping Update
A.Vitale reported that he and M. Nazzal have gone over the last of the water questions, have
received as-builts for them and have put most of them in. He is still working on the Public
Services building; he is putting in the last of the water and sewer. He is concerned about the
water first because that is the last site before he will be ready to print new atlases. Water is just
about complete.
Regarding sewer, he has not received any new pages, but he has received a couple of other as-
builts that he has incorporated. The as-builts we used for water have a lot of sewer information
on them; he has included them as part of the process. But he has not received any additional
sewer pages from Tom Polcyn’s group in the last month. As they come, he will continue to
update them.
A.Vitale asked M. Nazzal to let him know how many copies of the atlas Public Services needs.
C. Ostman needs only one copy.
Atlas Updates (Map and New Search)
A.Vitale updated the most current sewer and water information. He and S. Cusick will update
planimetric data at the same time as parcels and addresses today. We should have planimetric
data on Atlas in addition to ArcView. The most current water and sewer information will be up
as far as the map side is concerned.
B. Shaw recapped that adding the rest of the planimetric means that, while we have had the
building layer, we will now have the sidewalks, driveways, pavement edges, road edges, curbs
and parking lots. When this data is added to Atlas later today, we will have not only met but
surpassed our goal of providing our own version of the Consortium’s online tool.
Atlas will continue to default to the aerial photo. One day, B. Shaw hopes that his team will be
able to allow users to customize their own views of Atlas, so that it will look the way they want
it to look upon opening.
B. Shaw demonstrated how to access Atlas - either click on the blue Atlas icon on the Village of
Niles home webpage or go to https://maps.vniles.com. He then reviewed many features of
Atlas, including the secure information, and highlighted the newest feature – People.
An employee may access the secure information by logging on in the same way he accesses his
email.
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Trustee Przybylo asked about the counter, located on the bottom of the Atlas home page. S.
Cusick responded that that figure indicates how many people have visited Atlas. We can only
know who is using it if they log in, i.e. employees, trustees. We track not only how many times
Atlas is visited, but what sections of Atlas are being viewed. But there is no way of knowing how
many visitors to the site are Niles residents and there is no way to asses the popularity of this site
with the average resident. It was also noted that there is no way for us to know how many
residents have Internet access.
Knowing the time and resources it took to create Atlas, Trustee Przybylo would like to know
how popular it is and how much it is appreciated by the citizens who paid for it. C. Ostman said
it has reduced the number of phone calls to Community Development, but Trustee Przybylo
countered that many of those calls are from real estate people, etc. and not from the tax-paying
residents. B. Shaw submitted that the Senior Center has encouraged its members to use Atlas,
most recently to access their PINs; the property information page has become very popular with
the seniors.
S. Cusick reported that the Senior Center has used the information found on Atlas for medical
emergencies. RED Center and the NSECC have secured access to Atlas and can use it for the
same purpose.
Mayor Callero commented that Atlas enables our employees to give answers to our residents
much faster; they can find the answer to most questions right on their computer rather than
having to tell them, “I’ll look it up and call you back.” B. Shaw added that it eliminates a caller
being bounced from person to person, department to department. Our front desk staff has been
empowered by this readily available, up-to-date information. Atlas enables us to provide much
better customer service. Mayor Callero continued that the GIS Steering Committee has had
representatives and input from all departments. Atlas was set up with their needs in mind.
A point of clarification: GIS houses all the fixed assets that we maintain. GIS data is accessed
through many interfaces. Atlas is one of them, and is the only one that is public.
B. Shaw reminded that Mayor Callero has asked the MIS Department to retrain all employees on
Atlas and include the trustees.
B. Shaw reported that six years ago, we pulled name and address information from all of our
databases (Utility Billing, Payroll, Fire, Police, Fitness, Senior, Business Licensing, etc.) into a
central database to create an emergency contact list, thereby creating the NNS (Niles Notification
System) which gives us the ability to call out all residents and businesses for the purpose of
emergency notification. Because there have recently been several requests from departments
who want to be able to easily search for the name of a person or a business, we decided to make
this same NNS information accessible within Atlas.
What NNS and other sources have provided for this project is name, address, age/birth date,
gender and phone number and phone number type (home, cell, etc.) Businesses and
organizations, as well as people, are included. We know the source of the information. We only
poll up-to-date, recent, active, live data. The information is secure. This information is provided
only if it is tied to an address.
B. Shaw presented a list of current sources of this data:
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Current Sources
• Business Licensing
• Business Licensing emergency contacts
• CityView Multi-Unit owners
• CityView Multi-Unit tenants
• CityView Property Maintenance
• Employee Maintenance
• Finance Vendor Master
• Fitness members
• Meals on Wheels
• Niles Contractors
• NNS adds
• Nurses
• Senior members
• Teen Center members
• Teen Center member contacts
• Utility Billing
• Vehicle Licensing
We have the ability to do NNS “adds and deletes,” where we can add or remove specific names
from the list as requested.
We are considering including names from the following sources:
Candidate Sources
• IDC CENA (central name and address database)
• IDC Payroll (for phone number information not on Employee Maintenance)
• Adjudication (misdemeanors)
• GEAC (misdemeanors and felonies)
• Burglar Alarms
• Alpha 4 (Police detective information)
• Firehouse
• Zoll (ambulance emergencies)
• Past Perfect (Historical Society members and donors)
• Building information (contacts and contractors)
• Backflow
• Animal Licensing
With regard to police information, A.Vitale pointed out that this does not mean that we would
have access to every person who was arrested in the Village, but only to those who are tied to an
address in the Village. This is still address-based. Only those who are tied to a Niles address are
included, not everyone on the source list.
Mayor Callero asked who can get access to this new information. B. Shaw responded that, in
this format, all employees. Mayor Callero stated that we have a lot of information that shouldn’t
be on there. He asked that B. Shaw meet with him and Joe Annunzio to discuss what
information should and should not be included on this new search feature of Atlas.
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B. Shaw stated that he felt that what is in there now is not controversial. Upon reviewing the
source list, Mayor Callero still wants the entire list brought up in the meeting with Joe.
Trustee Przybylo expressed concern that an employee - a CSO, for example - has access to
information they should not have access to. B. Shaw explained that departmental security
measures are in place to prevent that. In the case of arrest records, the NSECC houses and owns
the data; there is an audit trail of everyone that touches everything.
S. Cusick demonstrated the Atlas login record, which provides a record of which employee logs
in, when he logs in, and what he is looking up. The login record also shows when a person visits
the site without a login, but it does not tell us who or from where. This access information is
updated every second.
B. Shaw reported how this new search feature helped a woman at the Senior Center who was in
distress. Since installing this feature, he has received emails from Police, Fire and Senior Center
describing how they have used it. S. Cusick added that this feature has helped departments find
and correct errors in their own data. This new feature has been in a little over a week and is
already proving to be particularly valuable to the Senior Center, the Police Department and the
Teen Center. C. Ostman commented that he can see where this will be a valuable tool to the
Police Department, and it may become a help to Community Development as it develops.
B. Shaw stated that right now the feature is available to all employees with a login. If we
discover that security is an issue, we can easily change the access to it.
Trustee Przybylo asked if the Fire Department is aware of residents’ pets and special needs. S.
Cusick responded that, as far as he knows, the Fire Department is not aware of pets and is only
aware of a resident’s special needs if that resident has specifically informed them. B. Shaw said
that the Senior Center used to have a list of seniors that are on life support, etc. Up until last
year, that list was sent to the Fire Department on a yearly basis. Trustee Przybylo confirmed that
Atlas has the ability to keep this information.
He suggested that we consider, at either the May or June Board meeting, including a postcard or
coupon in the quarterly Focus on Niles newsletter. The resident would fill out the card with pet
or special need information and return it to the Fire Department or the Village. This information
could be put on Atlas. People could then feel good about their Village. He would rather not use
Animal Licensing as a source for this information; he is talking about public relations. He is
talking about the message of inclusion of people into their village. We could make an
announcement at the Board meeting and/or send a letter out to everyone. S. Cusick commented
that the information is only good for a few months. He asked how we would maintain the data.
Trustee Przybylo suggested that we be creative.
B. Shaw suggested that we contact the Senior Center to see if anything is already in place.
Trustee Przybylo suggested that we investigate other communities to see if anyone else provides
such a service, and that we look beyond our neighboring communities. B. Shaw said that he will
report the findings at the next meeting.
Atlas Training
B. Shaw reported that we have to put the previously-mentioned changes in place, update our
documentation, and write our training class before we begin training in June. We are on target.
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Maintenance Management System (MMS)
B. Shaw reported that we will be back on track with Utility Billing and MMS by the middle of
next week. We will have more to report at the next meeting.
Agenda Item #3 – New Business
Address / Building Update Process
A.Vitale reported that he met with C. Ostman, R. Wlodarski and Rick Molina from Community
Development and B. Shaw and S. Cusick. We keep two, separate data models going for
CityView and GIS. We will continue the address updating as we always have. Building updates
might change a bit, depending on what Community Development wants to see and how
significant the change is. But we will start to incorporate changing building footprints on GIS so
they will be available for everyone.
Digital Data Submission Policy
A.Vitale met with Community Development and Engineering. They will run through a couple of
quick tests of our submission policy AutoCAD template before recommending any other changes
or official policies.
Stormwater Commission Data Collection
A.Vitale has been invited to the pre-Board meeting on Tuesday, May 25, when Hey &
Associates will be introduced to the Board. He will be available for questions, and will let the
Stormwater Commission take the lead on what data they want to collect first before we
supplement that with our efforts and dollars for sewer inverts. We do have money in the budget
for a GPS collection unit ($25,000) as well as money for data collection efforts ($75,000.)
B. Shaw recommended that we wait until the Stormwater consultant is done with their work and
the data collection is done by the Stormwater Commission before we consider what else we want
to pick up.
Miscellaneous Questions from Last Meeting
o At the last meeting, G. VanGeem asked A. Vitale to provide a list of ways Atlas is being
used. He has been collecting feedback from frequent users and will compile the list into
one document and will give the list to G. VanGeem in the next week or two. Mayor
Callero asked that A.Vitale send the list to everyone on the committee.
o In answer to a question posed by G. VanGeem, A.Vitale verified that the GPS is separate
in the budget.
o A.Vitale noted that there are many employees who are frequent, “power” users of GIS
data - Atlas being the most prevalent tool they use. He suggests including some of these
people at the table of this Steering Committee, as they have provided valuable insights
over the last months. Mayor Callero asked A.Vitale to make a list of these people and
discuss it with G. VanGeem.
Trustee Przybylo asked if any Atlas users make money by using Atlas. Can they pull vast arrays
of names and addresses? No, you must be an employee to access that information. Trustee
Przybylo wondered if “you hinge the opening of the gate for a fee.” Is this something anyone
has ever thought about? B. Shaw responded that the people who have given us their information
did not give us permission to do that with it. We have been very careful to not break their trust.
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We would have to have permission to do it. Trustee Przybylo asked if someone could,
theoretically, pull up all the businesses in Niles. B. Shaw responded that you would have to pull
up every address in Niles because there is no way to ask Atlas to “show me only businesses.”
The only way an address on Atlas could by identified as a business would be by its zoning.
Trustee Przybylo said that the Chamber of Commerce, of which he is a member, will provide
him with the database of all the Chamber members. Because of an agreement with neighboring
communities, he can also get chamber lists from Skokie and Park Ridge. But he must pay for
that. Even though we should not necessarily be in the business of this, couldn’t we sell access to
50 people at $500 each? That would be $25,000. Mayor Callero suggested that we let the
Chamber do it.
C. Ostman reminded the group that if someone asked for a list of all the businesses in Niles,
FOIA requires that we provide the information. S. Cusick noted that certain information, such as
personal phone numbers, can be redacted. C. Ostman added that a FOIA request can be made for
any reason – commercial or personal. Community Development gets so many FOIA requests
from contractors looking for business. The law says that the first 50 pages are free; if submitted
electronically, we cannot charge them.
It was noted that Atlas, per se, does not help with FOIA requests. There are other tools available
for handling these requests quickly and efficiently. We have five days to fulfill a private FOIA
request; 21 days for requests for commercial purposes. The FOIA officer (Kathy Thake)
determines whether a request is private or commercial. It is the obligation of the requestor to say
if the request is for commercial purposes; he is not supposed to hide that.
Agenda Item #5 – Schedule the Next Meeting (date to be discussed)
Due to summer schedules, there will be no meeting in August. The next meeting will be
Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 8:00 a.m. in the 2nd floor main conference room 218.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:22 a.m.
Steering Committee Members
Andrew Przybylo Trustee atp@vniles.com
George Van Geem Administration gvg@vniles.com 847-588-8002
Bill Shaw MIS wfs@vniles.com 847-588-8015
Andrew Vitale MIS ajv@vniles.com 847-588-8022
Steve Cusick MIS src@vniles.com 847-588-8018
Moses Nazzal Engineering mhn@vniles.com 847-588-7924
Scott Jochim Public Services snj@vniles.com 847-588-7901
Bob Pilat Public Services rmp@vniles.com 847-588-7926
Chuck Ostman Community Development cfo@vniles.com 847-588-8041
Rich Wlordarski Community Development rjw@vniles.com 847-588-8085
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Agenda
“Where People Count”
MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS
1000 Civic Center Drive, Niles, Illinois 60714 Telephone (847) 588-8000 Fax (847) 588-8050
AGENDA
GIS Steering Committee Meeting
May 20, 2010
8:00 a.m.
1. Old Business – Project Updates
• Monument Re-calibration
• Parcel & Assessment Data Update
2. Departmental Projects
• Sewer & Water Mapping Update
• Atlas Updates (Map and New Search)
• Atlas Training
• Maintenance Management System (MMS)
3. New Business
• Address / Building Update process
• Digital Data Submission Policy
• Storm Water Commission Data Collection
• Miscellaneous Questions from Last Meeting
4. Schedule next meeting (date to be discussed)