GIS Steering Committee
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · March 10, 2011
Minutes
“Where People Count”
MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS
1000 Civic Center Drive, Niles, Illinois 60714 Telephone (847) 588-8000 Fax (847) 588-8050
GIS Steering Committee Meeting
March 10, 2011
Co-Chairs: Andrew Przybylo – Trustee
George Van Geem – Village Manager
Persons in attendance:
Robert Callero Mayor
Steve Cusick MIS
Scott Jochim Public Services
Mousa Nazzal Engineering
Chuck Ostman Community Development
Bob Pilat Public Services
Andrew Przybylo Trustee
Bill Shaw MIS
George Van Geem Village Manager
Andrew Vitale MIS
Rich Wlodarski Community Development
The meeting was called to order at 8:06 a.m.
Agenda Item #1 – Approval of Minutes
The minutes of the February 10, 2010 meeting were approved.
Agenda Item #2 – Old Business – Project Updates
Atlas Training
A.Vitale reported that he and Tim Spadoni have held a total of four training classes, which went
well and received good feedback. A proposed change to Atlas, based on a suggestion from
housing inspectors, is the addition of email addresses, when available, to the “People Search”
section. We are looking for this committee to approve this change. B. Shaw commented that
because email addresses will become a more standard form of contact in the years to come, we
feel that this is a good feature.
Trustee Przybylo asked of the sensitivity. B. Shaw responded that Atlas already reveals, to
employees only, a person’s name, phone number, birth date (age), and relationship for every
address in the Village. We are now asking to include an email address with this information.
Mayor Callero said that it should be optional for residents to share their email addresses.
B. Pilat expressed concern over having information for teenagers on Atlas. He asked if there is a
way to “red flag” people under the age of 18.
It was pointed out that only Village of Niles employees have access to this information, not
residents, and only Village employees who have a login have access to this information.
Trustee Przybylo stated that he has no problem with people giving their email addresses as part
of their contact information, but would like to see controls applied so that only certain employees
have access to this information. He asked if access is traceable. Yes, any search made on Atlas
is recorded in a log, so we can trace on what computer, using what login, and when (date and
time) an employee looked up a particular piece of information. Trustee Przybylo would like to
restrict Atlas to different levels of employees in order to prevent a non-employee from viewing a
screen when the employee is away from his/her desk (as could happen at the Teen Center, for
example.)
B. Shaw moved that this committee recommends that we allow email addresses in the “People
Section” of Atlas. The vote was unanimous in favor of allowing email addresses in the “People
Section” of Atlas.
A.Vitale reported on another question that has come up as a result of the training: Employees
who are also residents do not think it is fair that their personal information, drawn from our
Employee Maintenance database, is published on Atlas. The biggest issue for these employees is
that the birth dates and ages of their underage children are listed. They want the option to
exclude their children from the list, assuming the children are not members of the Teen Center,
Fitness Center, etc. B. Shaw clarified that the children’s names are coming from the
Pharmaceutical Distribution List. Mayor Callero and Trustee Przybylo both feel that access to
information regarding children should be restricted to the highest level. S. Cusick pointed out
that restricting this information could hinder the ability of front desk employees to provide quick
aid in the event of an emergency.
B. Shaw stated that he will come back to the next meeting with a solution to this problem. He
will come up with a restriction level for any relationship information in Employee Maintenance
for minors – under 18.
Trustee Przybylo stated that he feels it is acceptable to put all the information out there, but that
we should restrict its access. Department Heads and the Village Manager would make the
decision as to who has access. B. Shaw concluded that he will work on it and present solutions
at the next meeting.
Maintenance Management System (MMS)
B. Shaw reported that the MIS and Public Services Departments have found a software solution
for maintenance management. We now request that this committee approves going to the Board
to accept the proposals.
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A maintenance management system is software the will allow Public Services to do service
requests and work orders; track equipment, labor and materials; and inventory control, with
future capabilities that include risk management and budget planning. We have wanted to
implement a maintenance management system for a long time, but funds haven’t been available
until now.
MIS reviewed six available packages, looking at how it runs “in the back of the house,” how the
user interface works, and how it works with GIS. Based on our findings and on Public Services’
criteria, we narrowed the field to two solutions that would do what we need within the
constraints of our project. MIS viewed two demonstrations of each solution, and brought Public
Services in for the third demonstrations. MIS showed Public Services each package without
revealing their own conclusions. At the conclusion of the demonstrations and discussions,
Public Services unanimously selected VUEWorks, which is the package that MIS would have
recommended and is priced the lowest of all the considered packages.
VUEWorks, a company of experienced software developers based in New Hampshire, has been
in business since 2001. They are partnered with a local VAR (Value Added Reseller) – Ruekert-
Mielke – who will do the installation, training and support. (Ruekert-Mielke is the company that
helped us build Atlas, worked with us on GIS engineering issues and helped us gather water
assets.)
VUEWorks $33,569.40 software, user licenses
Ruekert-Mielke $16,400.00 installation, training, configuration, support
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$49,969.40
We have negotiated both contracts; the Village attorney has reviewed them and has found them
acceptable. We also consulted the Northwest Municipal Conference to see if they have done any
studies related to maintenance management systems. As of now they have only evaluated
pavement systems, which we are not considering.
There are some future considerations that VUEWorks will have in their next release. These
features are important enough that we have asked them to put together a Memorandum of
Understanding, which we hope to have later today. Once the Village attorney reviews and
approves it, we can then assemble all the paperwork and, with this committee’s approval, present
it to the March Board meeting.
Mayor Callero asked about the quotes from the other companies. B. Shaw gave the following
breakdown:
VUEWorks, Inc. Concord, NH $49,969.40 Complete
Azteca Systems (CityWorks) Sandy, UT $78,930.00 Complete
The Davenport Group Colorado Springs, CO $91,580.00 w/o Training
GBA Master Series Overland Park, KS $83,000.00 w/o Services
CarteGraph Dubuque, IA $150,000.00 Estimated
Hansen Information
Technologies Inc. Alpharetta, GA $250,000.00 Estimated
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B. Shaw continued that the VUEWorks package is the most affordable and most complete, and is
expected to do what we need it to do.
Mayor Callero asked if S. Jochim, M. Nazzal and B. Pilat all agree that this package is good. S.
Jochim responded that while the other package had “all the bells and whistles,” it was more
complicated. This package is very easy to understand and accomplished the same thing in fewer
steps. Unbeknownst to them, it was the cheaper one. Mayor Callero asked if S. Jochim’s people
will use it. S. Jochim responded yes, it will save a lot of time. Currently, all calls are recorded in
writing on an action request, and we have boxes of them. If you need to refer to a particular
request, you have to find it in a box. This will save a lot of time. Also, there are often things
that need to be done, such as sign and tree inventories, but we don’t have the tools to do them.
There are many things that can be tied into this system.
Mayor Callero asked if we will need additional personnel to implement this, or if current
employees can do it. B. Pilat responded that the main difference is that instead of the service
request being written down, it will be entered directly into the computer by the receptionist. The
supervisor would be notified immediately, and the work order can be generated right away. It
automates the whole process, making a record of every service request that comes in and
tracking duplicate requests, thereby eliminating double work.
S. Cusick added that this software “sits directly on top of GIS,” and actually lets Public Services
edit the data that is in GIS. As they make changes to the infrastructure, the changes will be
entered into the system, and GIS and Atlas will thereby be kept up-to-date.
B. Shaw continued that a maintenance management system manages Village assets and
infrastructure. This system includes a web portal that we will eventually open so that residents
will be able to make requests online, which should also provide a savings. Once a service
request is entered, the appropriate Public Services personnel will be notified, who will then
decide the proper disposition and turn it into a work order that will identify the crew, the
equipment and the materials needed to do the work. The actual equipment and labor details will
be recorded for future analysis.
One of our goals is to expand this system and open it to other departments, but right now our
focus is Public Services.
Mayor Callero asked if we are planning to have computers in the trucks. B. Shaw replied that we
have money in the budget for a half dozen laptops or iPads for the managers. We are also
reviewing the phones that we issue to Public Services personnel and will make sure that the next
generation of phones that we issue will support this system’s notifications. We won’t have to
give everyone a laptop; service request/work order information can go right to their phones. We
are trying to take advantage of all the technology we can.
This purchase of the MMS will come out of the current (2010-2011) budget. The purchase of the
laptops will come out of the next (2011-2012) budget.
G. VanGeem recalled that the last time we worked with Ruekert-Mielke on Atlas, we had to
work hundreds of hours to get it where it is today. He asked how many hours we will have to
spend on this to get it to be what we want it to be. A.Vitale answered that any package that we
go with would require a lot of configuration because there are some configurations that are
unique to how we work. S. Cusick added that Atlas is custom-written software, which is why we
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had to put in so much time. This MMS is an off-the-shelf product, with no customizations. We
have to enter Village of Niles data, which will take some time, but we will not be writing code or
developing a solution.
The first step will be to enter information for water, sewer and signs, and the labor, material and
equipment behind that. The second step will be streets, trees and all the other asset layers.
Trustee Przybylo asked about references for VUEWorks. A.Vitale replied that he has many
references for Ruekert-Mielke and the VUEWorks team and for the software itself. He has not
heard a single negative comment from any one of them, whether they are a smaller organization
serving only 1,200 residents or a larger city of 74,000. They have all had glowing things to say,
not only about the learning curve of the software, but also about the tech support response and
the enhancement response. They have all been very positive.
B.Shaw added that we have requested VUEWorks’ financials. Our Finance Department looked
them over and feels comfortable that their capital and assets make them very stable.
Trustee Przybylo asked if this software has GPS interconnectivity. For example, if a truck is out
to fix a water main break, will the system record when the truck gets there and when it leaves so
we can do time management studies? A.Vitale responded no, the system was not designed for
that purpose. B. Shaw added that this system does have the ability to connect to other databases
so that if we do acquire GPS capabilities for our vehicles, this package will be able to tie into it
without any huge burden on our part.
Mayor Callero made a motion to approve going to the Board for acceptance of this MMS
package. The vote was unanimously in favor of the motion.
B. Shaw stated that he, A.Vitale and S. Cusick plan on being at the Board meeting to assist with
the presentation. He feels that the Board will want Public Services to field some of their
questions. S. Jochim will be there.
There will be no product demonstration, but there is a brochure with screen shots of some of the
modules. A.Vitale will investigate if we can view another community’s website to see a work
order request module. He knows of one particular community who would be willing to open
their site to us.
Trustee Przybylo suggested that we select a different name for this system because “Maintenance
Management System” doesn’t say anything. Perhaps there is some way we can include “Public
Services” in the name because the system mostly has to do with what the Public Services
Department does. Mayor Callero added that because it’s all related to public service, we have to
include that term in the name. He suggested “Public Service Maintenance Management.” B.
Shaw assured that this issue will be addressed.
IMS Mapping Software Replacement
A.Vitale reported that the replacement of the mapping software (the interactive map component)
within Atlas is ongoing. ESRI is not yet ready; they still have a lot of information to work on
before we can start working with them on the transition from our old mapping software to the
new mapping software. We are hoping to have our demonstration of the next step take place
either later this month or early in April. We will likely have something significant to report at
the next meeting.
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Agenda Item #3 – New Business
GIS Consortium Data Sharing
A.Vitale reported that last week he received a call from the NSECC asking for our point layer of
addresses. (Apparently, they didn’t have a current address list for the Village of Niles within
their dispatch system.) Further conversations revealed that they were looking for more than just
addresses, and they were going to share this information with the entire GIS Consortium and
include Niles’ GIS layers within the GIS Consortium’s website. In further conversations, they
talked about a reciprocal sharing of information between us and the Consortium.
A.Vitale stated that he cannot enter into any data sharing of this type without this committee
being aware of it. (We are looking at some data sharing agreements and will give them to the
Village attorney for review.) He wants this committee to know that we have a real opportunity
to share more information than we ever have before, thereby strengthening the relationships of
the neighboring communities that are members of the consortium – Park Ridge, Des Plaines,
Morton Grove, Skokie, and Glenview (not Chicago.)
Trustee Przybylo confirmed that we are only sharing data with other governmental agencies. He
also confirmed that there is a clause that prohibits any of these municipalities from selling this
list to or sharing this list with anybody – be it private industry or another municipality - without
our knowledge and written consent. Mayor Callero asked for a definition of “information.”
A.Vitale replied addresses, streets, parcels, possibly infrastructure, but not residents’ names.
There are two main reasons for other communities to have our current information, and for us to
have theirs: 1) for our Fire and Police Departments, so they can answer and assist with
emergency calls outside our borders, and 2) for our Community Development and Public
Services Departments, so they can better deal with construction issues on our borders and
Stormwater concerns.
B. Shaw asked if there was any concern about the information in Atlas being shared with them.
A.Vitale responded that the information to be shared does not include names or licensing
information, nor does it violate any of our current data sharing agreements with Cook County; he
will not be sharing anything that he cannot share. Cook County is aware of this proposed data
sharing and is fine with it.
A.Vitale will put together a formal list of the layers to be shared, and will bring this list to G.
Van Geem. He will present that list and a data sharing agreement to the committee for approval
at the next meeting.
Agenda Item #4 – Departmental Projects
Sign Inventory
B.Shaw reported that he and S. Cusick have been working on the sign inventory, taking the sign
information from Public Services and GIS, and identifying all of the fields and attributes in both.
They have also reviewed the document regarding the regulations and have identified some
concerns. A.Vitale is in the process of getting a sign database model from ESRI in order to take
into account any industry standard. They plan to meet with B. Pilat and Lynn Ball (Streets and
Signs Manager) early next week to review the findings and select exactly what we want. We can
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then assemble an Access database that will allow Public Services to build the inventory for GIS
and MMS. By the week after next, we should have a working system in place.
B.Shaw commented that Tim Spadoni and A.Vitale held four Atlas training sessions. The
classes have been very successful, and have led to the addition of new information to Atlas based
on recommendations from the participants. Everyone on this campus has been trained. Fire,
Police and Public Services are next to be trained; their schedules and multiple shifts make
scheduling the classes a bit more complicated. We are also planning to conduct a training
session for the Trustees.
A.Vitale added that T. Spadoni has outlines to arrange for the training at the remote sites by the
end of this month, depending on the demands of MMS. At a minimum, we should have these
sessions scheduled by the next meeting.
Agenda Item #5 – Schedule Next Meeting (recommended date: April 14, 2011)
The next meeting will be Thursday, April 14, 2011 at 8:00 a.m. in the 2nd floor main conference
room 218.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:03 a.m.
Steering Committee Members
Andrew Przybylo Trustee atp@vniles.com
George Van Geem Administration gvg@vniles.com 847-588-8002
Bill Shaw MIS wfs@vniles.com 847-588-8015
Andrew Vitale MIS ajv@vniles.com 847-588-8022
Steve Cusick MIS src@vniles.com 847-588-8018
Moses Nazzal Engineering mhn@vniles.com 847-588-7924
Scott Jochim Public Services snj@vniles.com 847-588-7901
Bob Pilat Public Services rmp@vniles.com 847-588-7926
Chuck Ostman Community Development cfo@vniles.com 847-588-8041
Rich Wlordarski Community Development rjw@vniles.com 847-588-8085
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Agenda
“Where People Count”
MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS
1000 Civic Center Drive, Niles, Illinois 60714 Telephone (847) 588-8000 Fax (847) 588-8050
AGENDA
GIS Steering Committee Meeting
March 10, 2011
8:00 a.m.
1. Approval of Minutes
2. Old Business – Project Updates
• Atlas Training
o Email Addition
• Maintenance Management System (MMS)
• IMS Mapping Software Replacement
3. New Business
• GIS Consortium Data Sharing
4. Departmental Projects
• Sign Inventory
5. Schedule Next Meeting (recommended date: April 14, 2011)