Planning and Zoning Board
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · July 12, 2010
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION
AND ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
VILLAGE OF NILES
COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
July 12, 2010
The Niles Plan Commission and Zoning Board of Appeals was called to order
at 7:00 P.M.
Chairman Kanelos asked everyone to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
Present along with Chairman Thomas Kanelos and Village Attorney Joseph
Annunzio were Vice-Chairman Karen Dimond, Commissioners Thomas
Surace, Angelo Troiani, Barbara Nakanishi, Robert Schulter and Morgan
Dubiel. Also present was Richard Wlodarski, Assistant Director of
Community Development.
Chairman Kanelos stated before we start I’d like to make a brief
announcement. You all should have received a packet delivered to your home
regarding a building and zoning committee meeting that is going to address
the sign ordinance. It is Wednesday, the 14th, and all the members of the
Plan Commission are invited to attend.
Next item on the agenda was the minutes from the June 7, 2010 meeting.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any corrections, additions or
clarifications.
Commissioner Nakanishi noted that she had a couple of corrections. Page 8,
paragraph 5 and page 9, paragraph 6 were duly noted by the secretary and
corrected earlier in the day before the minutes were approved.
Commissioner Dubiel asked if the minutes were verbatim.
Chairman Kanelos said no, these are summary minutes. We used to have
verbatim minutes but not anymore. He entertained a motion to approve the
minutes.
Commissioner Dubiel moved to approve the June 7th minutes as corrected.
Seconded by Commissioner Surace, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 7 Dimond, Surace, Kanelos, Troiani, Nakanishi, Schulter,
Dubiel
There being seven (7) affirmative votes the motion carried.
Commissioner Dubiel said at the last meeting we had an open question about
these private easements or lease agreements. Did the Village Attorney get
any clarification on this?
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Joseph Annunzio, the Village Attorney, said the only thing that is required
determining whether or not it is a Special Use is what is in the ordinance
book. Anything beyond that is beyond the scope of the authority of this
Board to make a determination whether they deserve or should have a
Special Use. So the question is if they need an easement to reach access to
property on which they are requesting a Special Use, that is frankly beyond
our interest. Whether they can reach the property, whether they can afford
to implement the Special Use, all that is beyond the scope of this Board.
OLD BUSINESS
None
NEW BUSINESS
10-ZP-11 Mr. Chad Gargrave, agent
Clear Wireless LLC
7600 S County Line Rd
Burr Ridge, IL 60527
Requesting a Special Use to section IX (B)(2)(d) to install three
microwave backhaul dish antennas on an existing monopole cell
tower at 6420 W Howard St., Niles, IL.
10-ZP-12 Mr. Sammy Zaya, owner
52840 Seven Oaks Dr.
Shelby Township, Michigan 48316
Requesting approval of a Special Use to appendix B section VIII
(B)(3)(z) for a full service restaurant and food carryout store and to
appendix B section X (B)(10)(y) for a parking variation of a total of 16
total spaces or 47% at 9021 N. Milwaukee Ave., Niles, IL.
Chairman Kanelos called for the first item on the agenda.
10-ZP-11 Mr. Chad Gargrave, agent
Clear Wireless LLC
7600 S County Line Rd
Burr Ridge, IL 60527
Requesting a Special Use to section IX (B)(2)(d) to install three
microwave backhaul dish antennas on an existing monopole cell
tower at 6420 W Howard St., Niles, IL.
Richard Wlodarski, Assistant Director of Community Development presented
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the petition. He read the following for both cases tonight so he didn’t have to
keep repeating the legal notice. Legal notice was published June 10, 2010 in
the Bugle Newspaper and letters were mailed out to all the property owners
within 250’ of both properties on tonight’s agenda. This request is to install
three microwave backhaul dish antennas on three existing triangular
apparatuses. Currently the tower has three triangular apparatuses
consisting of three antennas on each apparatus for a total nine antennas at a
height of 63’. New antennas will be installed on the existing apparatuses at
65’ and now will total twelve in number with four antennas on each
apparatus. This request has been reviewed by Municipal Services and
Associates, which is a consultant for the Village of Niles for communication
systems. MSA has recommended approval for the installation of the
antennas. The Community Development Department recommends approval
of the installation of these three antennas with the following conditions. The
antennas, microwave dishes and coaxial cables which extend from the
transmission equipment to the antennas shall be painted to match the color
of the tower to minimize any potential visual impact. This Board is a
recommending Board to the Board of Trustees on this matter.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any questions of Mr. Wlodarski.
Commissioner Dubiel asked that the packet be introduced as Exhibit I on this
petition.
Commissioner Schulter asked Mr. Wlodarski about the discrepancy with the
actual address of the cell tower site. Will that be resolved prior to going to
the Trustees? If we do approve it, it will be based on an incorrect address.
Mr. Wlodarski stated you will approve 6352 W. Howard.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any other questions. He asked Mr.
Wlodarski if the department heads get the same packet as this Board. He
noticed the Chief of Police stated he had no objections. But then he noticed in
the MSA report the proposed antennas are exempt from FCC radio frequency
due to the mounting height of the antennas. The Village has requested a
good faith effort be made to separate Clear Wire’s frequencies from those
used by the Village to maintain the integrity of Village communications.
MSA is satisfied the proposed project will not interfere with the radio
frequencies used by the Village. Obviously that satisfied the Chief of Police.
Mr. Wlodarski said most of the assurances are coming from Municipal
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Services. As far as the technical issues I would refer you to the applicant
here tonight.
Chairman Kanelos said as far as you know there has never been any
interference with any other towers that have been put up.
Mr. Wlodarski said there have been no problems with interference.
Commissioner Dubiel had a question for Mr. Annunzio. They are exempt
under FCC regulations. Is that a condition?
Mr. Annunzio said we could add it as a condition and then wait and see if we
get a legal question that is brought up in court.
There were no other questions. Chairman Kanelos called the petitioner to
the microphone.
Mr. Chad Gargrave, agent, Clear Wireless LLC (aka Clear Wire), 7600 S
County Line Rd., Burr Ridge, IL 60527 stepped forward and was sworn in.
He said Mr. Wlodarski did a good job discussing the site. It is an existing
tower in the light manufacturing district. Sprint (a partner with Clear Wire)
is already on the tower with the nine existing antennas. Clear Wire will add
three broadband antennas to complete the broadband facility to give 4g
technology. It meets the conditions for a Special Use permit. To reply to
MSA’s exemption in their report, as long as Clear Wire meets the standards
set by the FCC they are not interfering with other forms of communication.
The public safety communications are on different frequencies.
Commissioner Schulter asked Mr. Gargrave if there had to be a different
support bracket to house the new antenna on the structure.
Mr. Gargrave said that is correct and asked the Board to open their packages
to page RF-11 – there is an overhead view of the triangular support structure
that attaches to the monopole. There are nine smaller antennas placed
around that triangle. Then you see the three larger dish-shaped antennas
near the points of the triangles. Each one is mounted to a pole; so the pole is
mounted and the antenna is bolted onto the pole. It will be the same as the
other Niles sites Clear Wire has.
Vice-Chairman Dimond asked if she understood correctly these dish antennas
are being installed in order to provide better broadband coverage throughout
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the Village.
Mr. Gargrave said yes, the panel antennas are already installed. They
transmit to cell phones or wireless laptops. The dish antennas point directly
to other monopoles or building sites and transmit the information back and
forth to the internet and allow for 4g speeds.
Commissioner Dubiel asked Mr. Wlodarski if we are reaching a saturation
point where the monopole towers will be full and not allow competitors to
come in with additional services.
Mr. Wlodarski said to ask the applicant. He would know how much more
could be added to this or any other pole. The frequencies have to do with
heights; the FCC regulates the heights and how much you can put on the
pole.
Mr. Gargrave replied it is always tough to know what the future will bring.
This technology changes so quickly. There are a number of carriers looking
to fill in gaps in their coverage; so they are always looking at other towers
and tall buildings to put their antennas on. You don’t know from carrier to
carrier how much equipment they want to put in. For instance on this
particular tower there might be structural and physical space to put on more
antennas; a smaller carrier like Cricket might only want to put up three
antennas and may be able to do it. A larger carrier wanting to put up twelve
to fifteen antennas, maybe not. He was speaking hypothetically. Maybe the
carrier needs 120’ in order to broadcast. Another carrier might need only 80’.
Many carriers are coming into situations in Chicago suburbs where the
residential area is dense but they are having trouble locating the existing
towers. That is normal for these residential communities. We couldn’t say
specifically for Niles without further investigation.
Mr. Wlodarski said the Niles Park District will only have four carriers
because of the ground space (cabinets) available to lease. Once that space is
spoken for, no other carrier can go on. Not that other carriers wouldn’t allow
their competitors to use their equipment, or in this case install equipment on
already installed equipment, that determines how much they can put on it
also.
Commissioner Schulter mentioned the nice thing is they are smaller than
what they used to be.
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Mr. Gargrave replied that is correct. Let’s say now you have room for four
carriers. In the future you may have room for five carriers as technology
shrinks.
Chairman Kanelos said there was one condition recommended by the
Community Development Department and that is the equipment be painted
to match what is there. Is that acceptable?
Mr. Gargrave stated yes.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any other questions from the
Commissioners or the public. There were none. He then entertained a
motion.
Vice-Chairman Dimond moved to approve the Special Use requested by
Mr. Chad Gargrave, agent, Clear Wireless LLC, 7600 S County Line Rd.,
Burr Ridge, IL 60527 for Special Use under section IX (B)(2)(d) to install
three microwave backhaul dish antennas on an existing monopole cell tower
at 6420 W Howard St., Niles, IL. She also moved in conjunction with
approval of this Special Use we make several findings. One - is this
necessary for the public convenience to allow 4g network service throughout
the area; it is also designed and proposed to be operated so the public health,
safety and welfare will be protected. In review of the materials, it appears
the addition of these dish antennas on the pre-existing monopole cell tower
will not have any negative impact on the health, safety and welfare of the
people of Niles. She moved to make the finding it will not cause substantial
injury to the value of other property in the neighborhood in which it is
located. These will be put on a tower that is already there and the owner has
agreed to paint them the same color as the pole so as to make them as
unobtrusive as possible.
Seconded by Commissioner Dubiel who made a friendly amendment. The
address as corrected in our packet should be 6352 W. Howard St., Niles, IL
60714.
On roll call the vote was:
AYES: 7 Dimond, Surace, Kanelos, Troiani, Nakanishi, Schulter,
Dubiel
NAYS: 0
There being seven (7) affirmative votes the motion carried.
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Chairman Kanelos called for the next item on the agenda.
10-ZP-12 Mr. Sammy Zaya, owner
52840 Seven Oaks Dr.
Shelby Township, Michigan 48316
Requesting approval of a Special Use to appendix B section VIII
(B)(3)(z) for a full service restaurant and food carryout store and to
appendix B section X (B)(10)(y) for a parking variation of a total of 16
total spaces or 47% at 9021 N. Milwaukee Ave., Niles, IL.
Mr. Wlodarski presented this petition. This request is to open up a carryout
only restaurant serving Middle Eastern cuisine. For the zoning ordinance, a
47% parking variation is required. After staff review of the existing tenants
located in the strip center and the intent of the required parking for carryout
restaurants, the staff feels there are no concerns in granting a 47% variation.
The Community Development Department recommends approval for this
Special Use with the parking variation with the following conditions: the
parking variation shall only apply to the shopping center as long as the
Special Use is still active for the restaurant it was granted for. This Board is
a recommending Board to the Board of Trustees.
Commissioner Dubiel requested the packet be entered as evidence as
Exhibit I. Also – a question for Mr. Wlodarski. The application says 50%;
you show 47%. Is 47% correct?
Mr. Wlodarski stated yes, it is correct.
Commissioner Dubiel wanted a better understanding of this condition. You
said for the restaurant it was granted for. If the petitioner were to sell the
same restaurant to another owner, the Special Use would still be in place,
correct?
Mr. Wlodarski stated yes.
Commissioner Dubiel then asked if this store were to close and the petitioner
were to open a new store similar or identical, would the Special Use be in
place.
Mr. Wlodarski said that would have to be reviewed. Could be a possibility.
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Commissioner Dubiel asked if the Board should name the restaurant in our
conditions.
Mr. Wlodarski said yes, to be on the safe side, you can name it.
Commissioner Troiani said once in a while there is saturation in a little strip
mall. People spend a lot of money to get started and there just is not enough
parking. So if there is not enough parking they use the parking for the other
tenants. Someone may close up and get out and there are bad feelings. He
doesn’t think there is enough parking for a restaurant of this type.
Commissioner Schulter asked if it is correct this is a takeout restaurant only.
There won’t be any patrons actually using the restaurant.
Mr. Wlodarski said yes, it is carryout only.
Chairman Kanelos said there are five stools. There could possibly be five
patrons eating but it is largely takeout.
Mr. Wlodarski said the applicant will reiterate that tonight. Those stools are
just for people waiting to pick up food, not to eat. That is how this was put
together. He will clarify that.
Vice-Chairman Dimond asked Mr. Wlodarski about the aerial view of the
center that shows some parking in the rear also. It that used by employees
with entrances in the back of the building?
Mr. Wlodarski said sure, the employees use that for any business located in
the strip mall, but there is more than enough parking for other people to use
that, not just employees. If you look at the makeup of the mall: a travel
agent, beauty salon and a food store. Upon observation we don’t feel there
are any parking issues whatsoever. In the summary that was put together, it
was put in the ordinance as more of a safeguard for a Lou Malnati’s type of
carryout or a Dairy Queen, that can generate an extreme amount of traffic.
We don’t anticipate this type of business generating that. That was the
intent of the ordinance when it was put in place in 2002.
Vice-Chairman Dimond said looking at the property at 9015 N. Milwaukee
Ave. as a separate property, they cannot park in that parking lot.
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Mr. Wlodarski said correct.
Commissioner Dubiel wanted clarification on Vice-Chairman Dimond’s
question. The three businesses already in place are considered to be low
parking usage. They have plenty of parking now.
Mr. Wlodarski said correct.
Chairman Kanelos called the petitioner to the podium.
Mr. Sammy Zaya, owner, 52840 Seven Oaks Dr., Shelby Township, Michigan
48316 stepped up and was sworn in. He had nothing else to add to Mr.
Wlodarski’s presentation.
Chairman Kanelos asked how many employees would be at the restaurant.
Mr. Zaya said three or four. It depends on how busy it gets.
Chairman Kanelos asked if Mr. Zaya had similar restaurants anywhere else.
Mr. Zaya said no.
Chairman Kanelos asked if he had percentages on how much of the business
would be takeout or dine-in.
Mr. Zaya said 90% or more would be carryout. Those stools are there just so
the customers can wait for their food.
Mr. Wlodarski said to Chairman Kanelos this was presented as carryout
only.
Commissioner Dubiel asked if this would be similar to a Pita Inn. You come
in, you place an order, you wait five minutes or so and then you leave.
Mr. Zaya said it would probably be ready when they come in. They call in
advance and then it is ready for pickup.
Commissioner Dubiel asked if he did research to pick this location and did he
think there would be a parking problem.
Mr. Zaya said yes, he researched it and no, he didn’t think there would be a
parking problem.
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Commissioner Troiani said you are applying for a full service restaurant and
a carryout store but you say it is carryout only. Would you like to take “full
service” out of this application?
Mr. Wlodarski interjected to Commissioner Troiani the way the ordinance
reads it says “full carryout” but it is not a full carryout. That is the only
category we have to put him in per the zoning ordinance. But it is a carryout
only restaurant. We don’t have a category for carryout only. It is combined.
Commissioner Dubiel said that could be a condition.
Commissioner Troiani said but we are setting a precedent for putting a 50%
variation on parking for the whole strip center.
Mr. Wlodarski stated 47%.
Commissioner Troiani said in the future, if that is the way the ordinance
reads, it should be changed. We can make that recommendation into these
minutes. When the Trustees read it they will realize our ordinance is too
vague because a full service restaurant and carryout will not work in this
area. 50% parking variation is too much. All the other tenants in the strip
center have employees and customers. They want traffic too. He doesn’t
think we are giving this guy (Zaya) a chance to survive.
Commissioner Schulter wanted a clear understanding before the Board votes
on this. Is this going to be a takeout restaurant and you are not going to be
serving customers inside the restaurant?
Mr. Zaya said carryout only. Then the customer will pick up the food and
leave.
Vice-Chairman Dimond asked what the hours of the restaurant will be.
Mr. Zaya said probably 10 a.m. until 8 p.m. It depends on how busy he will
be.
Commissioner Schulter asked beside the carryout where customers come in
to pick up their food, will you be delivering food also?
Mr. Zaya answered he wasn’t sure but maybe in the future.
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Chairman Kanelos asked if the Commissioners had other questions. There
were none. When asked if anyone in the audience had questions, Mr.
Sherwin Klein, 9050 N. Churchill Circle, Niles, IL 60714 stepped to the
podium and was sworn in.
Mr. Klein stated his property parallels the rear parking of this strip center.
Three days a week there a few cars back there because most of the parking is
in the front of the building. But Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday
the entire rear parking area is full. He has lived there for forty-three years
and as the center has been increased, so have the problems to his property.
Garbage problems, lighting problems, people [on the weekends] who go to the
restaurant down the way and throw beer bottles, etc. into his yard. He has
had to call the police a number of times and is concerned this new carryout
restaurant will increase traffic in the back area. There is not enough lighting
in the back. The owners of the property do not leave lights on. There is a
real concern about security issues because it is so dark in the back area. He
is not against business coming into Niles knowing the Village needs the
revenue but these other issues need to be addressed and taken care of. He is
getting tired of having to be on the lookout at night to see what is going on
behind this center.
Chairman Kanelos said Mr. Klein mentioned Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday
and Friday the back lot is filled. You don’t know if the front lot is full. Does
the beauty salon have an entrance in the back? Is that the primary
entrance?
Mr. Klein stated yes. There is an entrance in the back but the primary
entrance is in the front. All the stores have an entrance in the back besides
the one in the front.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any questions from the
Commissioners.
Commissioner Schulter asked Mr. Klein if he has approached the landlord of
the building to place security lights in the back.
Mr. Klein said when the building went up the landlord said he was going to
put hedges along the fence, add lighting and so on. That never happened and
that was many years ago. One time a car jumped the concrete bumper and
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went through the fence in his yard. Right now the fence is coming down
because a couple of the concrete bumpers are broken. New ones were
installed and the old ones are lying up against his fence. The tenants have
no control over their customers. The customers are the ones causing
problems. Garbage in the backyard, beer cans, pop cans. He could spend two
days a week cleaning up his yard.
Commissioner Dubiel said it sounds like your concerns are a code
enforcement issue. If the landlord is a scofflaw, that might be something that
should be looked into.
Mr. Klein said he is in contact often with code enforcement. If there is a
problem in the neighborhood he is the one who calls. They do a great job
when made aware.
Commissioner Dubiel addressed Mr. Zaya about Mr. Klein’s genuine
concerns. There is going to be a significant rehab here. For his own
employees’ security until 8:00 p.m. or 9:00 p.m., would he consider putting a
spotlight at the backdoor.
Mr. Zaya said yes at his door, but not in the parking area.
Commissioner Schulter said he believes the landlord has to give permission
for that.
Mr. Klein said there are no lights on at night. There are lights over each door
but they are not on.
Chairman Kanelos said to the Commissioners he sympathized with what was
being said but the Board is limited with only being able to address the
parking volume issue.
Commissioner Troiani disagreed and said there is a chance now to make
everyone aware of the problem. These people should be able to call the police
department and remind them to check these types of establishments
especially on the weekends when more people are out eating and drinking at
the restaurant down the street.
Chairman Kanelos said the point he is trying to make is the issue here for
the variance is for parking. We must try to focus and address the issues
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related to this particular variance. He asked how often the other businesses
in the strip are open – six days, seven days.
Mr. Klein answered the travel agency is open every day. It varies.
Mr. Wlodarski said he couldn’t give exact hours of operation. The grocery
store is generally open all the time.
Mr. Klein said it is mainly the travel agent and the beauty shop.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were other questions from the
Commissioners.
Vice-Chairman Dimond asked what the hours of the beauty shop are.
Mr. Klein stated he couldn’t answer that. The cars start coming in around
8:30 a.m. and are there until around 5 or 6 p.m. then gone for the evening.
Commissioner Dubiel said we have before us a packet that goes through the
various departments for critical review, i.e. fire department, building
department, police department. It is signed off there is no law enforcement
issue or concern with Mr. Zaya’s store opening.
Mr. Klein said he wasn’t sure if this area was any different than any other
area we have in Niles. There was a break-in about nine months ago. If the
police make periodic calls to them [concerned] then it is not an issue for them
but it is certainly an issue for him. But if the police department doesn’t care
if we keep calling, he doesn’t care, he will keep calling.
Commissioner Dubiel said Mr. Zaya is not causing the problem. This is
really an ongoing problem for the owner of the building. It should be
addressed through the police department to make sure things are up to code.
Chairman Kanelos said he was speaking with the Village Attorney just now
and we can make as a condition of the approval that the landlord improve the
lighting on the rear of the property. That could alleviate some of the property
with excessive parking and the problems that occur with that. Would that
help the situation?
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Mr. Klein stated of course. It would also be nice to include the lighting
towards their building and not towards his home.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any other questions.
Vice-Chairman Dimond wanted Mr. Zaya to confirm he is not having a liquor
license.
Mr. Zaya stated no, not at all. He said Chairman Kanelos mentioned they
don’t want that light to be shining in Mr. Klein’s backyard. How will that be
done – by setting up a pole against his fence?
Chairman Kanelos said there would be some way that lighting would have to
get to the back or some kind of low level lighting. However this would be
through the landlord, not Mr. Zaya.
Vice-Chairman Dimond has a question for Mr. Annunzio. The applicant for
the Special Use is Mr. Zaya, who is the tenant. However some of the
conditions we are talking about are things the landlord has to address.
Mr. Annunzio said we can make a condition for the light but if the owner of
the property doesn’t want to put the light in, the condition is not met and
there is no variance.
Mr. Wlodarski said there could be a condition added to his business. He is
going to have his own electrical service for his business and it will go to his
electrical service, not the landlord. He isn’t sure how the building is set up
where sometimes you have hallways in common areas the landlord would pay
for. If it doesn’t go under his service you can’t all of a sudden make the other
existing tenants pay that bill.
Chairman Kanelos said the only problem with that is it puts the onus of the
correction of the problem on the tenant and not the landlord. It is really a
problem with the building.
Commissioner Dubiel asked what the code is. Can you have an area behind a
commercial property devoid of light?
Mr. Wlodarski said there is no ordinance one way or another. We have just
as many situations where the neighbors are complaining there are too many
lights. He thinks in this case they can put a light where it is not going to
affect the neighbors and still light the area in the back. If you want to
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continue this until the landlord approves and appears before the Board, it is
the Board’s prerogative.
Commissioner Dubiel asked Mr. Zaya if time was of the essence. Do you need
an answer tonight?
Mr. Zaya said it can wait. He asked Mr. Klein if it is just his property facing
the center or are there other neighbors facing the center.
Chairman Kanelos said the vast majority of the property facing is Mr. Klein’s
– 80% or more.
Commissioner Dubiel said they could possibly vote on this tonight if Mr. Zaya
is willing to address this on his own and at his own cost as part of his build-
out. Just put a light on your store only. If not, and this is a general issue,
then this will be tabled until next month so the Board can hear from the
landlord and get his input.
Mr. Zaya said he did not want to pay for everyone else.
Commissioner Dubiel said if he were to give the condition today he would ask
for a light that illuminates the parking area behind Mr. Zaya’s store. Would
that be reasonable?
Mr. Zaya came to the overhead map and was shown exactly which store he
will be leasing and how Mr. Klein’s property is right there. At that time Mr.
Zaya said he would rather delay this until the landlord appears.
Commissioner Dubiel motioned that the Board table petition 10-ZP-12 until
the next meeting on August 2, 2010.
Commissioner Troiani said if the Board is calling in the owner of the property
he should be made aware there is going to be a 50% (actually 47%) variation
for parking. That takes care of the whole property.
Commissioner Schulter asked Mr. Wlodarski who will notify the landlord to
attend the next meeting.
Mr. Wlodarski said it would be in the applicant’s best interest if he [Mr.
Zaya] contacts the landlord. However, the landlord is free to call the
Community Development Department if he needs any information before he
appears at the August 2nd meeting.
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COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
July 12, 2010
Chairman Kanelos said the Board is going to be asking the landlord to
address the rear lighting as part of the condition of the approval of this
variance.
Commissioner Troiani feels the owner should be given more time than three
and one half weeks to address this problem. He needs time to get an
electrical contractor.
Chairman Kanelos replied he doesn’t have to get a contractor or have the
work done by then. He just has to appear to discuss this. The Board needs to
know if he is willing to address the improvements.
Commissioner Dubiel said the Board wants the landlord to become a party to
the application and legally he would be bound by the condition of this. We
would have a special condition that the back would be lit by some
specifications.
Mr. Wlodarski said to keep in mind that any other business that went in that
center that did not need a Special Use variation could do so with no lighting
whatsoever. You are attaching this condition to this gentleman’s business
only.
Commissioner Dubiel said there is a chance the landlord will say no. He said
to Mr. Zaya “you are going to need a light behind your store anyway, right?”
Chairman Kanelos said there is a motion on that.
Commissioner Dubiel said he withdraws his motion.
Chairman Kanelos said if the Board is going to start discussing things
outside motion, we either have to vote on the motion or go back and open it
up for discussion. The petitioner has mentioned he would rather wait until
next month, so we should move forward with the motion, pass the
continuance and address this next month. Furthermore, if the landlord
chooses not to do it, Mr. Zaya has a right next month to say he will put in his
own lighting. To clarify, if Mr. Zaya chooses not to do the lighting and you
are only willing to do the light for your back door, the Board can still vote on
it, even without the lighting. We are discussing making it a condition. This
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AND ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
VILLAGE OF NILES
COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
July 12, 2010
petition can be voted on next month even if nothing is addressing the
lighting.
Mr. Klein said you can make this easy. Every doorway has a light above it.
If there were told they had to keep those on, you may not have to worry about
having anymore lights.
Seconded by Commissioner Nakanishi, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 7 Dimond, Surace, Kanelos, Troiani, Nakanishi, Schulter,
Dubiel
NAYS: 0
There being seven (7) affirmative votes the motion to continue until
August 2nd carried.
Chairman Kanelos said, as a reminder, there was a seminar February 2nd at
which time minutes were taken. The Commissioners received the minutes.
Commissioner Dubiel moved to approve those minutes.
Seconded by Commissioner Schulter, on roll call the vote was:
AYES : 5 Surace, Kanelos, Nakanishi, Schulter, Dubiel
ABSTAIN: 1 Dimond
PASS: 1 Troiani
There being five (5) affirmative votes the motion carried.
Mr. Wlodarski stated starting next month the Board will be receiving parking
studies for these parking situations in bigger shopping centers similar to
what was done with Assi Plaza to address shared parking. Next month you
will see a 46% variation coming in front of you but there is language in our
zoning code that allows documentation as long as the data supports a parking
variation being granted. If the report is not favorable, we will not bring it in
front of the Board. We will keep these reports as shopping centers ask for
variations. You will see one on Golf Glen Shopping Center next month.
At this time, Chairman Kanelos entertained a motion to adjourn.
Commissioner Dubiel moved to adjourn.
Seconded by Vice-Chairman Dimond, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 7 Dimond, Surace, Kanelos, Troiani, Nakanishi, Schulter,
Dubiel
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COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
July 12, 2010
NAYS: 0
There being seven (7) affirmative votes the motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 8:05 p.m.
Kathleen Janessa, Recording Secretary
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Agenda
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Mayor
Robert M. Callero AGENDA
PLAN COMMISSION & ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
Trustees MONDAY, JULY 12TH, 2010 7:00 p.m.
Chris Hanusiak
James T. Hynes
Joe LoVerde CALL TO ORDER
Louella B. Preston
Andrew Przybylo PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Alan Weel
Village Manager
ROLL CALL
George R. Van Geem
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Village Clerk Regular Meeting – June 7th, 2010
Marlene J. Victorine
Regular Meeting – February 1st, 2010
ANNOUNCEMENTS
OLD BUSINESS
None
NEW BUSINESS
10-ZP-11 Mr. Chad Gargrave, agent
Clear Wireless LLC
7600 S County Line Rd
Burr Ridge, IL 60527
Requesting a Special Use to section IX (B)(2)(d) to install three microwave backhaul dish
antennas on an existing monopole cell tower at 6420 W. Howard St., Niles, IL.
10-ZP-12 Mr. Sammy Zaya, owner
52840 Seven Oaks Dr.
Shelby Township, Michigan 48316
Requesting approval of a special use to appendix B section VIII (B)(3)(z) for a full service
restaurant and food carryout store and to appendix B section X (B)(10)(y) for a parking
variation of a total of 16 total spaces or 47% at 9021 N. Milwaukee Ave., Niles, IL
ADJOURNMENT
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The Village of Niles will comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act by making reasonable accommodations for people with disabilities. If you or
someone you know with a disability require accommodation for a Village service or have any questions about the Village’s compliance, please contact
George R. Van Geem, Village Manager, 1000 Civic Center Drive, Niles, Illinois at (847) 588-8000.
www.vniles.com