Planning and Zoning Board
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · October 5, 2020
Minutes
VILLAGE OF NILES
1000 Civic Center Drive
www.vniles.com
Final Approved Meeting Minutes
Monday, October 5, 2020
7:00 PM
Village Hall
Planning and Zoning Board
Chairman
Thomas Kanelos
Members
Susan DeBartolo
Morgan Dubiel, Vice Chairman
Ted Karabatsos
Terrence McConville
Barbara Nakanishi
Robert Schulter, Secretary
Charles Ostman, Community Development Director
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Statement read by Chairman Thomas Kanelos:
Due to the ongoing Covid-19 corona virus pandemic and the Governor’s
statewide stay-at-home order suspending certain open meeting acts
requirements, this meeting will be conducted remotely. The Commissioners
and Staff participating in tonight’s meeting are all in different locations in
accordance with social distancing guidelines. It is important that the cases
scheduled tonight be heard to continue critical Village business which will
enable ongoing construction, development, protection of property values and
the promotion of the Village’s economic vitality. Any individual desiring to
listen and/or participate in this meeting through the electronic meeting
platform known as Zoom has been provided that opportunity by the
Community Development Department in advance of the meeting. Finally,
members of the public had the opportunity to submit written comments in
advance of the meeting. These methods of public participation have been
publicized on the Village website, through notices required for each case
including newspaper publication and on the agenda for tonight’s meeting.
And finally, since we are using Zoom for tonight’s meeting, we anticipate
there could be some problems as we move through the agenda. When it is
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CALL TO ORDER
The Niles Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at 7:00 P.M.
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/ROLL CALL
All rose for the Pledge of Allegiance.
PRESENT: 7 Chairman Thomas Kanelos, Commissioners
Ted Karabatsos, Susan DeBartolo, Robert
Schulter, Barbara Nakanishi, Terrence
McConville, Morgan Dubiel
Also present was Director of Community Development Charles Ostman,
Planner I Nathan Bruemmer and Village Attorney Danielle Grcic.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any additions, clarifications, or
corrections to the minutes of September 14, 2020. There were none. He
entertained a motion.
Commissioner DeBartolo moved to approve the minutes of September 14,
2020.
Seconded by Commissioner Nakanashi, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 7 DeBartolo, Schulter, Nakanishi, McConville,
Dubiel, Karabatsos, Kanelos
NAYS: 0
There being seven (7) affirmative votes the motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENT
The public can ask questions or comment after the Board has heard the
petitioners’ testimony following each case.
OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
1. 20-ZP-17, 9600 N Milwaukee Ave
A request for a Special Use Permit to allow a ‘Vehicle Repair
– Minor’ doing business as Take 5 Oil Change at 9600 N
Milwaukee Ave, Niles, IL 60714 as required by Section 8.2(A)
of the Zoning Ordinance.
Nathan Bruemmer, Planner I, presented this case. A legal notice was
published in The Bugle on September 17, 2020. Notices were mailed out to
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all property owners within 250’ on September 15, 2020. An onsite sign was
placed on the property on September 17, 2020. The agenda was posted online
on the Village of Niles website and is posted in the lobby of the Village Hall.
The subject site is located on the northwest corner of Golf and Milwaukee.
There are currently two vacant buildings on the property. The proposed
action, if approved, will allow the petitioner to convert one of the buildings
into a three-bay oil change facility. The building at 9606 N Milwaukee,
formerly Nicky’s Bar, will be demolished as part of this project. Proposed
hours of operation for Take 5 Oil will be Monday through Friday, 7 a.m. to 7
p.m., Saturday, 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. and Sunday, 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. The facility
will employ eight to ten employees per shift. The Zoning Code requires that
vehicle repair shops, major or minor, provide four parking spaces per service
bay. This facility will have three service bays which means they require
twelve spaces. The site plan shows that twelve spaces will be provided. The
site is zoned C-2, General Commercial District, but it does require a Special
Use permit as required by Section 8.2(A). The proposal is also consistent
with the 2030 Comprehensive Plan designation of the area as a Regional
Commercial District.
Chairman Kanelos said there were quite a few questions from Engineering,
one by the Police Department and two by the Fire Department. He read
Staff’s answers. To the best of Mr. Bruemmer’s knowledge, were the answers
satisfactory?
Mr. Bruemmer answered yes, he followed up with all the departments and no
one had any issues.
There were no other questions from the Commissioners for Staff.
Chairman Kanelos called for the petitioner to come forward.
Mike Strauss, 1004 Capitol Ln., Deerfield, IL 60015, and Mark Madigan,
1250 Lindenwood Dr., Winnetka, IL 60093, owner and franchisee of this
Take 5 location came to the podium and were sworn in.
Mr. Strauss explained this is an oil change facility where you do not leave
your car. There will not be any parked cars that need to be worked on
tomorrow or the next day. There is no staging, People drive through and it
takes about 5 to 10 minutes. There are no pneumatic drills, no loud noise, no
tire changing, and no debris left over. It is a very clean facility based on
customer service. The concept is a fast, pleasant experience. He thinks the
community will respond positively to this service.
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Mr. Madigan said it is a very simple business. There are three products: oil,
wiper blades and filters. There would be some coolant as well. It is not a
full-service auto business.
Chairman Kanelos asked Mr. Ostman a question. On comments from his
department, they will be exceeding the amount of EIFS allowed by a small
amount. The answer is regarding the elevations of the building.
Charles Ostman, Director of Community Development, said Take 5 has
adjusted the elevations of the building, very much to their satisfaction. They
do meet all the building code requirements. The building looks very nice.
Chairman Kanelos said yes, it does look good.
Commissioner Schulter asked the applicant if there were other Take 5
facilities in the area.
Mr. Madigan said no, he is the first franchisee in the Chicagoland area. Two
other people entered into franchise agreements with Take 5 but he is the first
in this area. They are based in Charlotte, NC.
Commissioner Schulter asked if the owner stays in the car, what is going to
ensure that car owners are not going to start the car while the employee is
working on changing the oil?
Mr. Strauss said he was at headquarters in Charlotte last week and changed
the oil on about forty cars. There are rigid procedures in place with vocal
callouts. He likens it to a 1950’s gas station where the car pulls in and four
people gather around your car to start working on it. No one is more
concerned about safety than the employees themselves. They know how to
guide a car in, where to stand when guiding the car, when to ask the owner to
shut down the vehicle, callouts on when certain functions are being
performed. They do not want the owner to start up the vehicle and ruin the
engine. At that point Take 5 would be liable for paying that claim. In the
interest of all parties involved, the rigid procedures are in place to keep
everyone safe.
Commissioner Schulter said when the motorist pulls in the vehicle, are there
going to be step-down bays for the employees to work on the car? And are the
motorists liable to keep their windows up or down?
Mr. Strauss said yes. No one is permitted in that step-down area until the
vehicle is shut down. The windows can be up or down; whatever way the
motorist is comfortable. Everyone is fully masked inside the facility.
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Commissioner Nakanishi said Mr. Strauss mentioned a 1950’s gas station
but it sounds more like a NASCAR pit stop to her.
Mr. Strauss answered it could be the same analogy except they are not
changing tires or working on engines.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were additional questions from the
Commissioners or from the public. There were none. He entertained a
motion.
Commissioner Dubiel moved to approve item 20-ZP-17, a request
for a Special Use Permit to allow a ‘Vehicle Repair – Minor’ doing business as
Take 5 Oil Change at 9600 N Milwaukee Ave, Niles, IL 60714 as required by
Section 8.2(A) of the Zoning Ordinance. It has met the burden of the
requirements for a Special Use and the facts are at hand.
Seconded by Commissioner DeBartolo, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 7 Dubiel, Karabatsos, DeBartolo, Schulter,
Nakanishi, McConville, Kanelos
NAYS: 0
There being seven (7) affirmative votes the motion carried.
Chairman Kanelos stated this Board is a recommending Board to the Board
of Trustees who can either confirm or negate this recommendation. It will be
necessary for the petitioner to contact Mr. Ostman and ask to be placed on
the Board of Trustees agenda. The petitioner will then be notified of the date
and anyone in the audience who would like to be informed of the Board of
Trustees date should leave their name and address with the recording
secretary.
2. 20-ZP-19, 9347 – 9371 N Milwaukee Avenue
A request for approval of a plat of subdivision for the
property located at 9347-9371 Milwaukee Avenue.
Nathan Bruemmer said a legal notice for this case is not required. Tonight’s
agenda was posted online and in the lobby of the Village Hall as well.
Millbrook Center LLC is the owner of the multi-tenant commercial property
at 9347-9371 Milwaukee Ave. They are requesting a plat of subdivision to
divide the existing property into two lots. In July 2017, Millbrook Center
applied for and was granted a Special Use to allow the now existing Panda
Express at the premises. This subdivision was supposed to go in front of the
Planning and Zoning Board concurrent with the Special Use Application but
was not ready in time and then never made it to the Board. At that time,
several drafts of the proposed plat were reviewed by Public Works,
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Community Development and the Village’s consultants at Gewalt-Hamilton
Associates. Minimal changes were necessary and they have been made. In
August, Community Development staff was approached by the surveyor to
finalize the proposed subdivision process. As there were very minor
outstanding issues, Public Works and Gewalt-Hamilton reviewed and
approved the plat. The final version is attached and in the Staff report. The
property is 2.261 acres. The subject property will be divided into two lots.
Lot 1 is proposed to be 0.618 acres and will be housing Panda Express. Lot 2
is proposed to be 1,643 acres and will be housing the existing multi-tenant
retail center.
Commissioner Dubiel sees there is a 24’ easement for access. Historically
when it came to residences, the Village has been against these flag shaped
lots.
Mr. Ostman said the Village does allow flag shaped lots. At one time the
older Zoning Code prohibited those types of lots. They are now allowed.
Commissioner Dubiel said that at one time you put forth an effort against
flag shaped lots. You mentioned fire, difficulty finding the space, etc. That is
gone now. We no longer have that concern.
Mr. Ostman said a long time ago there was a builder on Davis Street who
wanted to subdivide into flag shaped lots. The Village took him to court to
block that. This was all done before he came onboard. However, when he
came onboard, he figured since the Village took someone to task about
developing on flag shaped lots and won because of lack of correct language in
the Zoning Code, that was when he prohibited developing on those types of
lots. Since then they brought it back in when the Zoning Code was redone.
Commissioner Dubiel said they have been allowed on Waukegan. He just
wanted to make sure they were clear on this.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were more questions for Staff. There were
none. He asked if the petitioner was present.
Mr. Bruemmer said the petitioner is not present as this is more of a clerical
issue.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were questions or comments from the
public. There were none. Personally, he does not like when the petitioner
does not show up. He entertained a motion.
Commissioner Dubiel moved to approve item 20-ZP-19, a request for
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approval of a plat of subdivision for the property located at 9347-9371
Milwaukee Avenue.
Seconded by Commissioner DeBartolo, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 7 Dubiel, Karabatsos, DeBartolo, Schulter,
Nakanishi, McConville, Kanelos
NAYS: 0
There being seven (7) affirmative votes the motion carried.
Chairman Kanelos called the roll as there were technical issues on the part of
Commissioner Schulter. Those issues were resolved quickly.
Chairman Kanelos stated this Board is a recommending Board to the Board
of Trustees who can either confirm or negate this recommendation. It will be
necessary for the petitioner to contact Mr. Ostman and ask to be placed on
the Board of Trustees agenda. The petitioner will then be notified of the date
and anyone in the audience who would like to be informed of the Board of
Trustees date should leave their name and address with the recording
secretary.
3. 20-ZP-21, 8307 W Golf Rd
A request for a Special Use Permit to allow ‘Cosmetic
Tattoo’ at My Salon Suite, 8307 W Golf Rd., Niles, IL 60714 as
required by Section 8.2(A) of the Zoning Ordinance.
Nathan Bruemmer presented this case. The applicant was in front of this
Board last month for a different request. A legal notice was published in The
Bugle on September 17, 2020. Notices were mailed to all property owners
withing 250’ on September 15, 2020. An onsite sign was placed on the
property on September 17, 2020 and a copy of the agenda was put online on
the Village website and posted in the lobby of the Village Hall. The
applicant, Mr. Toni Gozali, owns and operates My Salon Suite located at 8307
Golf Rd. in the Four Flags Shopping Center. The property is zoned C-2
‘General Commercial’. My Salon Suite is a nationwide franchise that offers
private individual suites for beauty service professionals, such as hair stylists
or estheticians, to rent out for a flat fee. This location is divided into twenty-
eight suites. Mr. Gozali would like to rent one of the suites [#133] to a
permanent make-up artist [known as Cosmetic Tattooing in the Zoning
Code]. Per Section 8.2(A) of the Zoning Ordinance, Cosmetic Tattoo requires
a Special Use in the C-2 district. The requested Special Use permit would
cover only the suite indicated in the application.
Chairman Kanelos asked how many cosmetic tattoo places are there in the
Village.
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Mr. Bruemmer said they are unable to track that. He did do a Google search
before the meeting and it appears there are none.
Chairman Kanelos said they have approved multiples over the past few
years.
Mr. Ostman said he could not tell whether or not they are still in business.
New software for licensing does not identify what a particular business
specializes in. He does remember one located in Golf Mill.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there is a list of what is allowed and considered
cosmetic tattooing.
Mr. Bruemmer said they can go with what the Zoning Code says. A classic
tattoo parlor would be a body modification establishment. That is a business
that offers non-cosmetic tattooing services, body piercing, and/or non-medical
body modification.
Chairman Kanelos said he read all that. He did not see any kind of
definition. Is it just eyebrows? What is it? Is a tiny butterfly or a teardrop
considered cosmetic?
Commissioner Dubiel said cosmetic tattooing offers medically necessary
services. He added we are allowing this just for Suite 133. The petitioner
has other suites at this location. Would it make more sense to say we are
allowing one at this property? Then it would give this person some flexibility
if it came up, say they had to change suites or reconfigure the area.
Mr. Ostman said that would be fine.
Commissioner Dubiel said rather than just limiting this to Suite 133 we could
say we will allow one cosmetic tattoo business at this My Salon location.
Chairman Kanelos answered yes.
Commissioner Dubiel’s second question is then is this request for My Salon
Suite or this particular tattoo person? Since the tattoo person is not named
in this request, if they left, they would not take the Special Use with them; it
would remain with the property, correct? Then it would make most sense not
to have this just for Suite 133 but for the whole address, correct?
Mr. Ostman said yes.
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Chairman Kanelos said he has a concern they would not get to question the
other person and he feels they should approve or not approve the way it is
written.
Commissioner DeBartolo said in looking up information on this type of
business, the body artist has to be able to wash their hands where they are
working and to have a bathroom for their use only. This is governed by
IDPH. Do they have to be specific about a suite?
Commissioner Schulter asked if the body artists have to be licensed.
Commissioner DeBartolo said yes, they have to apply for a body art permit.
And the person cannot be a cosmetologist or an aesthetician.
Chairman Kanelos said if this Board approves the suite, the tattoo artist still
has to abide by all state regulations. He said they do not have to be that
specific but need to concentrate on zoning.
Commissioner Dubiel said there is an operating lease that is part of tonight’s
packet that specifies different things the tenant can or cannot do. It would be
of interest to meet this tenant and get more specifics. Perhaps they should
table this request and bring it up at the next meeting when they can meet
this tattoo artist.
Chairman Kanelos said that person is here tonight. But if there is a motion,
they might want to reference the lease agreement Sections 4.4 and 4.5. He
asked if there were any more questions for Staff. There were none. He called
for the petitioner.
Toni Gozali, petitioner, 955 Summit Dr., Deerfield, IL 60015, approached the
microphone and was sworn in. Thank you for your time. He brought the
licensed aesthetician with him tonight in case you want to ask questions of
her. The tattooing is not body tattooing but is applied only for makeup. It is
a unique service and there is not much available in the area. It will be
convenient for people of Niles and the surrounding area to seek this kind of
service. It will be a good thing for Niles because the aesthetician will bring
clients with her to Niles and those people may visit other businesses in the
area. Thank you for your support.
Commissioner DeBartolo asked if there would be any piercing when cosmetic
tattooing is performed.
Mr. Gozali said he brought his candidate who will start this business.
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Svetlana [Lana] Ross, Norridge, IL, came forward and was sworn in.
Ms. Ross said she does use a needle but not like a regular tattoo needle which
goes deep in the skin. She does cosmetic tattooing on the top layer of the
skin. It is not as invasive and lasts one and a half to two years. It is a
cosmetic procedure to enhance beauty of lips and eyeliner. It is helpful for
people who have lost eyebrows or are cancer survivors or just women who
want to enhance their beauty.
Commissioner DeBartolo asked if she has a blood-born pathogen certificate.
Ms. Ross said yes. And she is a licensed aesthetician for past seven years but
for this type of work she had to become certified and took about ten different
trainings.
Commissioner Dubiel said you are leasing this suite from Mr. Gozali. If
permission is granted, we should be giving this Special Use to the licensee so
there is some level of control. If we give the Special Use to the salon, he will
be able to switch licensees at any time.
Chairman Kanelos said the salon owner will not be able to switch if the
license is attached to a suite. He feels they have to give it to the property
owner.
Village Attorney Danielle Grcic answered yes, the Chairman is correct. The
Special Use permit goes with the application to a specific property, not just a
suite. It has to be the owner of record of that property.
Chairman Kanelos asked if that means Mr. Gozali can open another business
like this in any of the suites or can we restrict it to one suite.
Ms. Grcic said you can restrict it to the one suite if there are already suite
designations. As a condition to the Special Use permit, it would be restricted
to that one specific suite. The Special Use would be applied so long as there
is a licensed aesthetician that is working at that suite and all of the laws of
the State of Illinois and County of Cook are complied with while that
business is in use.
Commissioner Dubiel said then we do not need this aesthetician’s testimony
at all if they are granting it the property owner who is also the applicant
here.
Ms. Grcic said it depends on what you are looking for from the testimony. It
can provide that fact there is not going to be any injury to the public because
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there is going to be a licensed aesthetician worker in the facility that knows
what needs to be done.
Commissioner Dubiel said that could be anybody. So, if this lessee were to
lose her license for some reason, Suite 133 can be sublet to someone else,
correct? We have no way to know or monitor this situation.
Ms. Grcic answered correct. The Use does not stop within a six-month
period. She said this issue came up once before with a massage parlor. We
can require them to register with the Office of Community Development as to
who the service provider is. Anytime there is turnover, they need to provide
us with a list and turn over the certificate required to carry on the business
but it comes to enforcement.
Commissioner DeBartolo thinks IDPH initially goes in and checks to see all
the requirements are being met and they follow up as well. She does not
know if they have to put in any enforcements since IDPH has to go in.
Chairman Kanelos said Commissioner Dubiel is talking about something
different, whether or not the person stays. He asked if there were any other
questions from Commissioners or the public. There were none. He
entertained a motion.
Commissioner Dubiel moved to approve 20-ZP-21, a request for a Special
Use Permit to allow ‘Cosmetic Tattoo’ at My Salon Suite, 8307 W Golf Rd.,
Niles, IL 60714 as required by Section 8.2(A) of the Zoning Ordinance. Part
of this approval would include the verbiage from the lease for this unit called
My Salon Suite of Niles Project Descriptions and include Lease Agreement
Section 4.4 and 4.5. We would also require an ongoing active business license
to whoever leases Suite 133.
Seconded by Commissioner DeBartolo, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 7 Dubiel, Karabatsos, DeBartolo, Schulter,
Nakanishi, McConville, Kanelos
NAYS: 0
There being seven (7) affirmative votes the motion carried.
Chairman Kanelos stated this Board is a recommending Board to the Board
of Trustees who can either confirm or negate this recommendation. It will be
necessary for the petitioner to contact Mr. Ostman and ask to be placed on
the Board of Trustees agenda. The petitioner will then be notified of the date
and anyone in the audience who would like to be informed of the Board of
Trustees date should leave their name and address with the recording
secretary.
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DISCUSSIONS
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Kanelos entertained a motion to adjourn.
Commissioner DeBartolo moved to adjourn.
Seconded by Commissioner McConville, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 7 DeBartolo, Schulter, Nakanishi, McConville,
Dubiel, Karabatsos, Kanelos
NAYS: 0
There being seven (7) affirmative votes the motion carried
The meeting adjourned at 7:45 p.m.
Kathleen Janessa, Recording Secretary
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Agenda
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
MAYOR TRUSTEES
Andrew Przybylo George D. Alpogianis
John C. Jekot
VILLAGE Danette O’Donovan Matyas
MANAGER Denise M. McCreery
Steven C. Vinezeano Craig Niedermaier
Dean Strzelecki
VILLAGE CLERK
Marlene J. Victorine
AGENDA
NILES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD
Monday, October 5, 2020
7:00 p.m.
This Electronic Meeting is open to the public and the public may submit public comment in
advance. Public comments will be accepted by email and phone call beforehand. Members of
the public who would like to make a comment during the hearing via Zoom may sign up using
the online form at www.vniles.com/october5speak. Public comments received by 5:00 p.m. on
the day before the meeting will be read at the beginning of the meeting. Any comments received
during the meeting will be held until the end of the meeting Public Comments should be
emailed to nbb@vniles.com and contain: name; address (optional); city; phone (optional); and
the agenda item you would like to comment on. Members of the public with no access to email
may leave a message at 847-588-8077.
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
September 14, 2020
PUBLIC COMMENT
OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
1. 20-ZP-17, 9600 N Milwaukee Ave
A request for a Special Use Permit to allow a ‘Vehicle Repair – Minor’ doing business
Take 5 Oil Change at 9600 N Milwaukee Ave, Niles, IL 60714 as required by Section
8.2(A) of the Zoning Ordinance.
1000 Civic Center Drive Niles, IL 60714 Phone (847) 588-8040 Fax (847) 588-8050
WWW.VNILES.COM
2. 20-ZP-19, 9347 - 9371 N Milwaukee Avenue
A request for approval of a plat of subdivision for the property located at 9347-9371
Milwaukee Avenue.
3. 20-ZP-21, 8307 W Golf Rd
A request for a Special Use Permit to allow ‘Cosmetic Tattoo’ at My Salon Suite, 8307 W
Golf Rd, Niles, IL 60714 as required by Section 8.2(A) of the Zoning Ordinance.
DISCUSSIONS
ADJOURNMENT