Stormwater Commission
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · December 9, 2010
Minutes
STORMWATER COMMISSION
MEETING SUMMARY
Thursday, December 9, 2010
The following persons were present: Chairman Joe Lo Verde, Richard Wlodarski, Andrew
Vitale, Steven Vinezeano, Mayor Callero, Chuck Ostman, and Scott Jochim. Also in
attendance were Jeff Wickenkamp of Hey and Associates, Sewer Department Supervisor
Tom Polcyn and resident Fred Kudert. Absent was Mousa Nazzal.
1. Introduction and Opening Comments: Vinezeano welcomed all present. No new
faces.
2. Approve Meeting Summary of Thursday, September 30, 2010: Vinezeano will get
the minutes to members earlier to provide for an efficient approval of the summary.
The issue was delayed and the minutes were approved by the end of the meeting.
Summaries are published on the Village website under Stormwater Commission.
3. Old Business:
a. Stormwater Management Ordinance Recommendation. Chuck Ostman
requested additional time to review the Stormwater Management Ordinance
proposed by Hey and Associates for discussion on September 30, 2010.
The Commission requested that Hey and Associates once again provide that
PowerPoint presentation for discussion. This will be placed on the next
possible agenda in January, 2011.
b. Ordinance Amendments
i. Staff worked with Hey to develop the definition for “Impervious
Area” as it relates to Code of Ordinances, Appendix B, Zoning
Ordinance, Section VII, Resident Districts. Hey proposed “Surfaces
that do not readily allow for the penetration of rain into the ground,
and include but are not limited to rooftops, paved areas and
graveled areas.” The Commission discussed another version, “Any
hard surfaced, manmade area that does not readily absorb or retain
water or allow for the penetration of rain into the ground, including
but not limited to, building roofs, parking and driveway areas,
graveled areas, sidewalks, and paved recreation areas.”
There was discussion about decks and whether or not they are
pervious. Due to the use of plastic or other materials meant to
prevent weeds from growing, placing decks into the definition
seemed questionable.
o A final definition will be presented with all other
approved amendments at the next meeting.
o The Commission agreed that a broader review of
impervious surfaces will be required at a later date.
c. NFIP Audit Update. Hey and Associates provided a brief overview of NFIP
and the purpose of the internal audit. Once the NFIP documents are in
order as per Chapter 50-Floods, the Village may pursue a preferred CRS
rating to reduce the cost of flood insurance. Each of the 12 properties with
buildings that fell within the floodplain was reviewed and a comprehensive
folder was created for the Engineering Department for future tracking. As
per Chapter 50, the Engineering Department must track substantial
improvements to ensure the cumulative percentage of improvements of any
structure in the floodplain does not equal or exceed 50% of the market
value of the structure.
With the audit complete, the Stormwater Commission is seeking to move
forward with the Community Rating System Program (CRS), a voluntary
incentive program recognizes and encourages community floodplain
management that exceeds the minimum NFIP requirements. It was
explained that insurance costs could be reduced by 10% by just submitting
to a review. Also there is the opportunity for Preferred Risk Flood
Insurance for residents who are impacted outside of the floodplain for about
$200 per year. Niles has 29 flood insurance policy holders with average
annual premiums of about $1,193 per policy.
o The Commission agreed that homeowner education is
key once improved flood insurance opportunities are
available.
o Engineering, Community Development and Hey and
Associates must meet to discuss Chapter 50 and the
process of permitting within the floodway and floodplain.
o Engineering will need to develop a Guide to Repairs and
remodeling in the Floodway/plain (web and hard copy).
d. Guidelines for Flood Prevention Response. The original title of the
document “Standard Operating Procedure for Flood Control Response” was
changed by request of the Public Services Director. The Commission
agreed. Unfortunately, the wrong copy of the document was provided to the
Commission for review. Tom Polcyn reviewed the proposed guidelines
with the Commission.
There was extensive discussion regarding the logging of calls made by
residents during flooding events. One top goal of the “guideline” is to put
in place a procedure for the logging of calls that are made “after hours”
when Public Services is not open and Police (and in extreme cases Fire) are
fielding flood calls. The Commission agreed that Fire, Police, Public
Services and General Government should all use the “Flood Complaint
Form” to log calls even during regular work hours when a heavy rain event
occurs. In the future, the Mayor would like to see this process
computerized for accuracy and simplicity in reporting. A hot-line was
discussed briefly, but due to the number of calls generated during a heavy
rain event, it was decided that it wouldn’t be practical. Calls would still be
made to all departments anyway. There was brief discussion on locking
down manholes to prevent illegal dumping and making changes to
barricades to prevent citizens from moving them and causing wakes. It was
agreed that the most the Commission could recommend regarding
barricades is to educate the public on why not to move them.
e. Plan Review Process and Billing for Engineering Department. The Village
Engineer prepared a “Plan Review Process” document to be used with an
RFP in an effort to move the process of professional engineering services
along. There was discussion regarding whether or not Hey and Associates
should be utilized since they have already been through the RFP process for
this project and will be working long-term with the Village. The
Commission Chair reiterated that although he is confident in the capability
of Hey to do the work of engineering reviews, he feels that the municipality
should seek out competitive bids on new projects as a matter of due
diligence.
o Engineering will work with Hey and Associates to
develop an RFP for engineering review services.
f. MWRD Request for Small Stream Maintenance. Vinezeano and Jochim
investigated stream sites (Prairie Creek) believed to be impeded. A map
was made with pictures and sent to Senior Civil Engineer Brian Levy
(thanks to the help of Hey and Associates) of MWRD’s Small Streams
Maintenance Program. Due to the extensiveness of the work required, the
goal was to go directly to MWRD for this work and not to simply upload
the request on their website. Vinezeano briefed the Commission on the
initial MWRD response.
o In the spring, Public Services will work with MWRD to
remove “woody” debris near the strip mall on
Greenwood Avenue and Ballard Road.
o Staff should complete Form B Worksheet from MWRD
for these issues.
g. IEPA Illinois Green Infrastructure Grant Program for Stormwater
Management (IGIG). Hey and Associates and Vinezeano worked together
to identify a project for the grant and then write the grant for submittal by
December 15, 2010. The site of the proposed project is where Public
Services dumps snow. Vinezeano checked with the Mayor, Village
Manager, and the Public Services Director on whether or not the project
was feasible. The Public Services Director was concerned about losing the
only site for snow dumping, however, it was agreed that with limited
infringement on the site and an adjusted dump routine, it was possible. It
was discussed that the design of the project is merely conceptual at this
stage and that the Public Services Director will be involved with the final
design if the Village is approved for the grant. Jeff from Hey provided a
brief description of the project and how it will benefit the Village.
There was discussion of how the combined sewer and storm sewer that run
through the proposed project area actually combine into a combined sewer
that then enters the MWRD system. Hey stated that if MWRD is serious
about improving CSOs in this area, they should be very interested in
separating the block or so of storm sewer.
o The section of storm sewer in question will be
investigated further for possible MWRD involvement.
4. New Business:
a. Community Rating System. This was discussed earlier in the meeting.
b. Hey Modeling Update. Hey and Associates presented information on an
updated modeling tool that they will use for the project. After several
weeks of evaluation with two vendors, they selected the XPSWMM 2D
model. This modeling tool allows for the use of the two dimensional digital
elevation model (DEM) for representing overland flowpaths and flooding.
The results are more detailed, more easily understood, and will more easily
be exported to the Village’s GIS.
Modeling activities are continuing. Initial results on problems and problem
diagnosis are expected in late January or early February. Presentations on
preliminary alternatives and solutions are planned to begin in late February
early March. Recommendations and the draft CIP are planned for early
April.
There was a discussion about the upcoming budget cycle and what the
Commission anticipates should be budgeted for stormwater. Hey stated that
the Village can anticipate budgeting engineering and any cost share
programs, but construction projects will most likely not occur until
2012/2013 budget year. The Chairman voiced his concern that the process
continue to move forward and the Mayor agreed.
o Hey anticipated budget needs for engineering, etc.
5. Ongoing Projects and Open Discussion:
a. Ostman stated that MIS have all the properties that are in the floodplain in
CityView for flagging when permits are requested. He asked questions
about what is allowed to be built in these areas and what triggers review.
He also asked which department is responsible for permits within these
areas. Vinezeano stated that Chapter 50 establishes Engineering as the
authority to permit this type of work, but that both departments and Hey
should meet to discuss in detail.
o Engineering, Community Development and Hey to meet
and discuss Chapter 50 requirements and permitting.
b. Jochim stated that the meeting scheduled with Glenview on October 6th was
canceled. He stated how he simply wanted answers from Glenview on
whether or not their hired engineering firm investigated the issue. The
Mayor reiterated the need to meet with Glenview.
o Jochim to schedule a meeting with Glenview.
c. The Mayor asked about the work at Maryhill mentioning the pipes on the
ground as reported by residents in the area. No update was available from
Public Services.
d. Jochim asked about buildings that are allowed to build on the property line
and how difficult it becomes to manage stormwater runoff in those
situations. It was discussed that the Stormwater Management Ordinance
that the Commission is working on and will be discussed at the next
meeting addresses the issues. There is a real concern about providing
management for stormwater runoff so that it does not negatively impact
surrounding properties and yet does not deter development.
6. Next Scheduled Meeting: TBA. Items to be discussed: Cost Share Programs and
the Stormwater Management Ordinance.
Agenda
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Joe LoVerde
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