Stormwater Commission
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · August 1, 2013
Minutes
STORMWATER COMMISSION
MEETING SUMMARY
Thursday, August 1, 2013
The following persons were present: Chair Joe Lo Verde, Steven Vinezeano, John
Stanislawski, Chuck Ostman, Richard Wlodarski, Robert Callero, Andrew Vitale, Fred
Kudert, Tom Polcyn, Mousa Nazzal, Scott Jochim and Jeff Wickenkamp and Patrick Lach
of Hey and Associates.
The meeting was called to order at 8:30 a.m.
I. Approve Meeting Summary of May 8, 2013: The summary was approved to be
posted on the Stormwater Commission web page.
II. Old Business:
i. Flood Control Assistance Program Update. Ostman updated
Commission on the program. 300 applications have been processed
thus far and the remaining, based on process speed, are estimated to
be completed by the end of September. He stated that he has not
received any part-time applicants for the additional position created
to handle the extreme number of applications submitted.
Vinezeano provided clarification on issue of multi-family
applications. He stated that page 2 of the Flood Control Assistance
Program states, “Homeowners who currently occupy single-family
and multi-family homes are eligible to participate in this program.”
There was a misunderstanding on whether or not multi-family
homes with renters were considered “commercial properties” since
they were revenue generating. Those property owners where the
homeowner occupies the multi-family home are now to be approved
for the program.
The Chair requested residents who wished to speak to come up. The
son of a resident at 7740 Oconto shared his issues with the property.
He stated that during the worst of the rains, the water will surround
the property and enter the crawlspace and flood the home. His
mother is elderly and these recent floods are costing a significant
amount of money. Vinezeano mentioned that the Village has
identified some homes as possible buyouts. However, until the
Village has a policy and a Hazard Mitigation Plan (currently
working with the Cook County Emergency Management Agency on
a plan) buyouts are too costly. There was recently a pre-application
for mitigation grant funds submitted by the Village to the Illinois
Emergency Management Agency. Three homes have been
identified in the short period of time the Village was given to
complete the application. These three homes will not benefit from
any Village capital improvement plan or flood control assistance.
These homes would require significant capital to make them safe
from flood conditions, so purchase of the homes may be the best
option. Jeff Wickenkamp provided a slide presentation on why the
area bordered by Mulford, Milwaukee, Jonquil, and Harlem flood.
It was stated that the sewer on Oconto could be increased, but this
would not reduce flood stage, just flood duration. A resident at
7736 Oconto shared his story about how he struggles with the
flooding due to his disabled 4-yearold son in a wheelchair. He is in
this area due to the special school. He stated that the water gets
from six to twelve feet from reaching his ground floor. Vinezeano
reiterated that the project was provided with $15M for the first
round of projects. These projects were chosen based on the most
number of homes that would be helped from direct flooding. He
stated that it is estimated that $60M would required to fix the entire
Village of all flooding. Some homes may require a buyout program,
which is why buyout programs exist with FEMA. A resident
offered their back yard for storage, but Jeff stated that it would take
eight full residential lots just to help hold the amount of water
necessary in the area from flooding homes.
Resident from 7740 Octavia stated that she has street flooding and
lost a car and her basement flooded.
The Chair asked for Hey and Associates to identify all the areas with
homes that are impacted in this way and provide recommendations
with costs of work. The solutions will then be reviewed at that time
for consideration. He does not favor having to displace residents,
but it may be the only option.
Resident from 8149 Farnsworth, just south of Maryhill Cemetery,
stated that he flooded as did his neighbor with 30 inches of water in
2008. He stated that the water suddenly went down when the
“magic” gate was opened. He stated that he has frequent power
outages, so he has a power generator. He requested map details for
his area and future flood relief that will benefit him.
Resident from 9401 Western Avenue asked what is being done in
his area. He stated that he has flooded seven or eight times since
2008 overland. Vinezeano stated that based on their last
communication, he was hoping that his home would qualify for
buyout when the County Hazard Mitigation Plan is complete. He
also stated that his home was included in the recent grant request for
buyout funds with the State.
Resident from 8426 Osceola stated that she got raw sewage in 2008.
She stated that she was approved for the cost share, but her father
was against it and she had to remove her father to get the work done.
She said that her block is not part of Tier I or Tier II projects. She
mentioned the Clean Water Act and wondered when Niles will be
separating the sewers as is required by law. She requested to see a
map of flooding patterns. She does not like the idea of helping
herself and then adversely impacting her neighbors due to the check
valve. She did not flood in April, but did flood in June.
Resident from 8500 Oleander stated that they did not flood in April,
but did flood in June. They stated that water from an easement
came into her windows.
Resident at 8506 Oleander had twenty six inches of sludge in April
and three feet in June. She has lost three water heaters, two
furnaces, two washer and dryers. She was approved for the check
valve and purchased a generator. She is concerned for her fellow
residents being dropped from insurance companies.
The Chair stated that the Village is committed to the relief program.
He stated that the Tier I program was five to six years away and now
is only two years away. The Village will continue to help, but we
must have patience. Those we cannot help will be answered
personally.
Vinezeano made a statement about the cost share program that those
who have submitted their names for a waiting list after the July 28
deadline date will be considered for the program this year if funds
allow and other applicants drop out or are found not to qualify.
ii. Small Projects
a. Greenwood. Jeff stated that they are working on fitting a
check valve onto a sewer with the sewer department. Rich
stated that the work over at Callero Drive is working on
three quotes.
iii. Tier 1 Capital Improvements.
a. Cleveland Sewer Project. Jeff stated final engineering
should be ready by March. He is comfortable with the
timetable of the project and meeting the excelled goals set
forth. The sizing of the pipe went from 54 inches to 72 and
is now 60 inches. This may change back to 72 inches. He
stated the larger pipe does not provide any benefit at this
time, but there would be room for future connections.
b. Main/Lee Project. The detention basin at Maryhill is the
first phase to be moving in 2014 as planned. This last rain
caused substantial surface flooding at Milwaukee and Main
in June. The second phase will be the expanded sewer
capacity on Lee and Ottawa Main and Harlem. Work must
be coordinated with Catholic Cemeteries, MWRD, IDOT,
and IEPA. He stated that he required details from Tom of
the Maryhill restrictor. Rich mentioned the street flooding at
Monroe and Main and Jeff stated that the Maryhill project
with the basin and lower bigger pipes will help street
flooding in this area and drain faster. Vinezeano stated that
he has the large flooding project maps in his office, which
show how the improvements reduce flooding with 25- and
100- year rains.
c. OLR. Jeff stated that he is responding to a flooding issue at
the church. He stated that the church must get this fixed
before they allow additional water to the site. He stated that
he will have a final concept drawing for Fr. Chris to review
within a week. Chuck reported that a plumber found the
issue at the church and will correct it. The OLR church
project requires a legal agreement for the property and an
internal permit with Niles.
iv. Green Infrastructure/MWRD. This was tabled.
III. New Business:
i. IEMA HMGP Grant Pre-Application. This was tabled.
ii. Hey & Associates Study of Mulford/Oconto. This was discussed in
Old Business during resident comment.
iii. Creek/Detention Pond Maintenance (Ballard/Greenwood). Jochim
discussed how MWRD did a fine job removing all the brush in the
area, but silt remains to be a problem. He stated that this slows
down the drain rate for the streets, but MWRD plans to address this
in 2015. Public Services cannot access this and would require
special equipment and permits to clean the silt.
iv. Abandoned Detention Pond (Behind Ft. Dearborn on Gross Point
Road). Jochim stated that he stopped the detention from being filled
by the owner. He is working with the owner to develop plans to be
given to Hey & Associates.
IV. Open Discussion: The Chair briefly mentioned the Chicago Tribune article
about green infrastructure.
V. Next Scheduled Meetings: TBD