Stormwater Commission
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · February 5, 2014
Minutes
STORMWATER COMMISSION
MEETING SUMMARY
Wednesday, February 5, 2014
The following persons were present: Chair Joe Lo Verde, Steven Vinezeano, Chuck
Ostman, Richard Wlodarski, Robert Callero, Andrew Vitale, Fred Kudert, Tom Polcyn,
Mousa Nazzal, Scott Jochim and Jeff Wickenkamp and Patrick Lach of Hey and
Associates.
The meeting was called to order at 8:30 a.m.
I. Approve Meeting Summaries for September 12, 2013 and October 10, 2013.
Summaries were approved to be posted on the Stormwater Commission
webpage.
II. Old Business:
i. Flood Control Assistance Program Update. Rich Wlodarski
provided an update by the numbers. There was discussion regarding
those who were put on a list, but did not come in to request cost
share within the set period. The Chair voiced his concern regarding
the allocation of funds for this program beyond what was approved
in the current budget. It was stated that the wait list of 168
homeowners could result in another $672k in the next budget.
There was discussion that a certified letter should be sent to those
who have not acted on the applications yet. Nothing was promised
to the 168 on the “waiting list.” There was discussion that the
Finance Committee will discuss what should be considered for next
fiscal year.
ii. Tier 1 Capital Improvements.
a. Cleveland Sewer Project. This is the most complex due to
the issues. Today a package is being sent to IDOT for
Harlem permits. The Forest Preserve tree survey was done
showing that the sewer route could be realigned to have less
impact on valued trees. The tree impact permit going in this
week. The plans are close to 90%. Engineering will not be
the holdup on the Cleveland project.
There was discussion about the possible funding. MWRD
information was provided. The Cleveland sewer was listed
as a possible project for funding. They could not say how
much at the time, but it could be about $2M or more
depending on projects. MWRD has discussed that they will
start the IGA process to prepare us if the State passes the
necessary laws to allow MWRD to provide local project
support. The IEPA Loan program was discussed and that it
will save the Village as much as $1.8M due to low interest.
Both of these funding opportunities will have their own
requirements that the engineering plans will need to show.
The Mayor asked when we plan to break ground. There was
discussion of permits and timing that would require
approval, but no hold ups were anticipated. Hey stated that
spring ground breaking is still on target for these projects.
The Mayor stated that the goal is to break ground in May or
June for the two basins.
There was discussion about the bid process and the need to
go to the village board to request to go to an rfp and go back
to the board to award the contract. There was discussion that
three to four weeks is important if you want serious bids on
the projects. Technical modifications will be required for the
Cleveland project if we get the IEPA and/or the MWRD
funds. It was discussed that the earliest the Cleveland
project could be started is September.
b. Maryhill. Plans are 90% and their engineering department
had one or two final comments. There was discussion on the
project and how it works. There are no berms, but a
detention basin with attached new and larger sewers. Hey
outlined the sewer locations and how they worked with the
basin. Homes directly south will benefit greatly from this
project. There was discussion that the annexation request
was in process. There is a strong interest to get the project
moving forward and match the signal modernization of the
Main and Milwaukee signal lights to prevent duplicative
work. There was a question if this project impacts Cleveland
sewer project. It does, only if it flows overland to the
Cleveland area. Maryhill led the engineers to believe that it
is no big deal to get this project done.
c. OLR. Plans at 90% complete engineering plans. In
communication with church and Archdiocese. All work has
been reviewed by them and their engineers. There was some
clarification with a basin fence for the legal documents.
There was discussion about the type of fence and the
purpose. A fence surrounding the basin is out of the
question and not something that the church would like or the
village. Hey provided a basic description of the project. The
space will now be functional and an amenity that the church
will be able to use for outdoor masses and Stations of the
Cross. Vinezeano will provide the Mayor with a copy of the
project rendering.
iii. IEMA Buyout Grant Application. We were preapproved, however,
the calculations for damages did not meet the applications needs of
the grant. Hey worked very closely with FEMA and IEMA on the
homes identified and it could not work. Vinezeano stated that the
letters for those homeowners participating in the preapproval
process were sent out.
III. New Business:
i. IGIG II Grant Application. Hey provided an update on the grant
application for a pervious paver project with planted swales near
Oak Park where there is flooding.
ii. Illinois State Revolving Fund Loan. This was covered.
iii. MWRD Potential Funding. This was covered.
iv. 8652 Park/8310 oak Backwater Valves. Flappers are ordered and
will be installed this spring.
v. Future Engineering Support. There was discussion on whether or
not Hey and Associates would be chosen to complete the projects
listed. These items have been budgeted and will require engineering
support. Overland Flood Control Reviews – it is not known if any
of these are necessary yet, but could be minimal. Reevaluation of
Tier II Projects and Timing – there was a list of possible small
projects that require engineering. Once Tier I is done, Tier II will
need to be reevaluated based on actual. The Chair asked about
Hey’s agreement currently. Jeff stated there is nothing after bid
award of the projects. No oversight is budgeted by Hey and
Associates. There was brief discussion about hiring a new engineer.
Vinezeano was asked to have a recommendation for oversight
engineering at the next meeting. Mousa stated that a new engineer
will work on streets and water main. MWRD ordinance passed is
more aggressive than it was in the past. Now they are requesting
municipalities participate with the coordination of the MWRD
permits in the future. There was a consensus that the village applies
to become certified.
IV. Open Discussion: Center for Neighborhood Technology and the IKE grant was
discussed. It was stated that maybe it can be planned for green streets planning
to supplement the hardscape projects being planned now. Andrew Vitale is
working on maps to see flood control devices plotted. He stated it would be a
week or so.
Resident at Kedzie. He discussed what he called “flow berms” and shared
pictures of flooding. His home is two homes off of Milwaukee Avenue. He
stated that the flow berms only blocks the water in. He stated it happened a
couple of times this year and a couple before in the past. He stated about 20
homes are impacted. He said the water is 15 inches deep. He said the flow
berms caused the flooding. He stated that the village did not get a second
opinion from another engineer before it was installed. He stated that Jeff
wanted to research whether or not this could be mitigated. He stated that nine
streets have these and should all be removed. April and May it occurred this
year. He said that his foundation is cracked and cannot fix it. He said that he
has an ever ready flood control system that does not work well at all. $8,000
was paid for the flood control system and $1,000 to have them come out to
repair. His flood in 2005 cost him $30k in losses. He stated that the value in
his home has dropped and so he is stuck here and cannot move. He said that he
has post-traumatic stress disorder now and everyone on his block as well. He
said the flood was created by the village. He made claims that Jeff said that the
area would not flood if a pipe was connected to Milwaukee sewer. Jeff stated
that it would reduce “duration” of flooding. Nine damns were put in many
years ago and he never heard about it. Give Jeff the chance to do a study on the
pipe. He said he can do it real cheap.
The Chair asked if this connection to Milwaukee would help as the resident
stated. Jeff discussed the seven areas in the Village for small project
consideration. These areas were studied by Hey and Associates and the area
was identified as a possible project, but no funding was available. What was
determined by the study of the flow berm is that it is 100% not hurting the
situation on that street or making anything worse. If anything, it is helping
because it blocks the water from Milwaukee from going down the street.
However, a connection under the berm to Milwaukee will reduce the duration
of flooding. To resolve the flooding 100% (primarily street flooding) $1M was
not approved during the triage phase of planning. Berms were installed in 1992
and he claims they never flooded until then. There was a question on how
much it would cost to remove the berm, but Hey stated that the berm is a good
thing and if you remove it it will cause more flooding.
There were questions on the timing of the flooding. Vinezeano outlined the
dates of the major storms since 2008. There was discussion about connecting
the pipe, but not removing the berm.
V. Next Scheduled Meetings: TBD
Agenda
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PUBLIC NOTICE
Stormwater Commission
Trustee Joe LoVerde, Chairman of the Stormwater Commission
has called a meeting on:
Wednesday, February 5, 2014
8:30 a.m.
Large Conference Room 2nd Floor
1000 Civic Center Drive
Niles, Illinois
www.vniles.com
Stormwater Commission Meeting
Wednesday, February 5, 2014
Village Hall at 8:30 a.m.
Agenda
I. Approve Meeting Summary of September 12, 2013 and October 10, 2013.
II. Old Business –
i. Flood Control Assistance Program
a. Update – Ostman
b. Future of Program Funding Cap
ii. Tier I Capital Improvements
a. Update – Hey
iii. IEMA Buyout Grant Application - Hey
III. New Business –
i. IGIG II Grant Application – Hey
ii. Illinois State Revolving Fund Loan Preparation - Hey
iii. MWRD Potential Funding Update – Vinezeano
iv. 8652 Park/8310 Oak Backwater Valves – Wlodarski
v. Future Engineering Support - Hey
a. Overland Flood Control Reviews
b. Reevaluation of Tier II Projects and Timing
c. Tier III Project Review and Recommendations
d. Creation of Soil Erosion and Sediment Control Ordinance
e. MWRD Ordinance Coordination
IV. Open Discussion –
V. Next Meeting – TBD