Electrical Commission
Regular MeetingNorthbrook, IL · January 31, 2013
Minutes
1 APPROVED
2
3 MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE ELECTRICAL COMMISSION
4 VILLAGE OF NORTHBROOK
5 COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
6 January 31, 2013
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9 Commissioners Present (3)
10 Richard A. Jamerson, Chairperson
11 Robert Boiko
12 Bernard Petchenik
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14 Ex Officio Commissioners Present (3)
15 Kevin Frangiamore, Director, Fire Prevention Bureau, Village of Northbrook
16 Mark Nolan, Fire Chief, Village of Northbrook
17 Tom Poupard, Director, Development and Planning Services, Village of Northbrook
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19 Commissioner Absent (1)
20 Dennis Lauer
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22 Other Village Staff Present
23 Jamie Clar, Electrical Inspector
24 Corey Friedman, Electrical/Mechanical Inspector and Electrical Commission Staff Liaison
25 Stacy Seiden, Recorder
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27 Additional Attendees
28 Jerrold Frumm, Executive Vice President, Senior Lifestyle Corporation
29 Tom Herman, Senior Superintendent, Skender Construction
30 Gary Hrivnak, Manufacturers Representative, Bill Casey Electric Sales Inc.
31 Jim Kavanagh, Central Region Sales Manager, AFC Cable Systems
32 Jon Lindstrom, Project Architect, SAS Architects
33 Blake MacGregor, Project Engineer, Skender Construction
34 Jim Moran, Vice President, Moran Electrical Contracting
35 Joe Pecorano, Senior Project Manager, Skender Construction
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37 1. Call to Order
38 Chairperson Jamerson called the meeting to order in the Terrace Room of Village Hall, 1225 Cedar Lane,
39 at 5:00 PM. A quorum was present.
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41 2. Review of Minutes
42 Commissioner Boiko moved, seconded by Commissioner Petchenik, to approve the minutes of the
43 September 20, 2012 Electrical Commission meeting without corrections. On a voice vote, the motion
44 unanimously carried.
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46 3. Public Comments
47 There were no comments from the public.
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1 4. Using Stabiloy Cable
2 Mr. Moran, on behalf of the owner/developer of North Shore Place, 1000 Sunset Ridge, requested a
3 variance from Northbrook Municipal Code Amendment #310.106B to use Stabiloy compact aluminum
4 alloy in lieu of copper conductor for any wire #3 and larger in the power distribution riser. Stabiloy
5 compact aluminum would not be used for motor feeds and branch wire.
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7 Following brief introductions of additional meeting attendees, Mr. Hrivnak described Alcan Aluminum
8 Alloy Stabiloy. The product had been available for about 30 years, was approved by the City of Chicago,
9 and was used for the Grainger corporate headquarters. Mr. Hrivnak reported that there “had not been
10 any problems” associated with aluminum cable since changes were made to its content and to the
11 connectors, which were now dual rated for copper and aluminum. He referenced a white paper by
12 Georgia Power in which, according to him, aluminum cable reacted “exactly like copper” under identical
13 conditions. He also cited the relative benefits of using his product, including the cost (1/3 the cost of
14 copper), weight (half the weight of copper), flexibility, and labor savings.
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16 Chairperson Jamerson inquired as to how the voltage drop would be handled. Mr. Moran responded
17 that the voltage drop could “cause problems” and, therefore, the project engineer would do the
18 necessary calculations. Commissioner Boiko raised concerns about the absence of inspection protocols,
19 particularly since the electrical inspector would not be onsite for most of the construction.
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21 Commissioner Boiko submitted, for the record, two studies. One, Corrosion and Current Burst Testing of
22 Copper and Aluminum Electrical Power Connectors for Use with Copper and Aluminum Conductor, found
23 that all-copper connectors performed the best in an accelerated aging test. Similarly, the other,
24 Comparative Corrosion and Current Burst Testing of Copper and Aluminum Electrical Power Connectors,
25 found that all-copper connectors performed the best in a 2,000-hour corrosion and current burst test.
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27 Commissioner Boiko stressed the need for more technical information and, specifically, requested a
28 copy of the relevant warranty and procedures. As the electrical contractor, Mr. Moran noted that it was
29 his responsibility to install the Stabiloy cable properly. Commissioner Boiko emphasized the importance
30 of the product warranty and other written literature from the company once the contractor is “out of
31 the picture.” Mr. Hrivnak would provide the commission with the requested information and noted that
32 his product came with a 10-year warranty.
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34 Commissioner Boiko further observed that, unlike copper wiring, Stabiloy was required to be inspected
35 at every connection point with thermal imaging multiple times in the first five years of use. Once the
36 permit was closed, the relevant Village inspector would have no legal authority to assure that the
37 mandated thermal imaging was completed in the succeeding years as mandated by the manufacturer.
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39 Fire Chief Nolan inquired as to which Cook County suburbs approved the use of this material, to which
40 Mr. Moran reported that Evanston and “quite a few other” municipalities had done so. According to Mr.
41 Moran, Northbrook was the exception in this regard. Fire Chief Nolan also asked if the electrical
42 contractor could guarantee that the appropriate connectors would be used, to which Mr. Moran replied
43 affirmatively. Commissioner Boiko cited the need for certification or a log to document that protocols
44 had been correctly followed.
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46 Inspector Friedman delineated his concerns with the voltage drop and requisite engineering “stamp of
47 approval,” as well as with torquing and the need for self-certification. He also raised longer-term
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1 concerns, such as when the warranty expired and other electricians were not as familiar with the
2 product.
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4 Mr. Frumm explained that his company was the long-term owner of the property. While his company
5 requested the relevant variance because of the associated cost savings, he maintained that he would
6 “not be here” if his company thought that the material in question was substandard. He emphasized
7 that North Shore Place was a “quality project” and, as such, quality materials would be used. The
8 professionals that his company hired counseled him that Stabiloy cable was “a good product” and no
9 different from using copper throughout the project. Mr. Frumm also noted that his Chicago-based
10 company operated the tenth largest senior housing community in the country.
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12 Commissioner Petchenik inquired as to how many senior residences used aluminum cable, to which Mr.
13 Frumm responded that he would find out the answer. Chairperson Jamerson commented that
14 certification of employee training would be necessary should the commission approve the requested
15 variance. He stated that the commission would not vote on this issue tonight and the requested voltage
16 drop analysis would limit the associated cost savings from using Stabiloy cable.
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18 5. Using MC Cable for Feeders and Branch Wiring
19 Mr. Moran, on behalf of the owner/developer of North Shore Place, 1000 Sunset Ridge, requested a
20 variance from Municipal Code Amendment #230.43(13) to use MC cable for the following areas:
21 PVC jacketed MC in poured in place decks,
22 Sub-panels feed under 200 amps,
23 Within residential units, and
24 Branch circuiting in public areas.
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26 Mr. Kavanagh reported that no projects used MC cable and concrete in this geographic area. Instead,
27 regular MC was used, according to Mr. Moran. The cable should be supported every six feet and would
28 not be exposed, making it necessary to “rip open” the wall to repair. Mr. Moran observed that the cable
29 did not appear as “neat” as conduit. However, the associated “sag” would not be visible.
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31 Inspector Friedman noted that installation would require customization to avoid “sloppy work.” Mr.
32 Herman commented that “as one of the top electricians,” Mr. Moran did not permit sloppy work.
33 Chairperson Jamerson inquired as to whether the cable could be prefabricated, to which Mr. Moran
34 responded negatively.
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36 Fire Chief Nolan expressed concern that firefighters might “hook and yank” the sagging cable when
37 tearing apart walls – less of a concern with non-flexible conduit. Commissioner Petchenik requested
38 drawings indicating the proposed locations where unsecured cable would be used. Inspector Friedman
39 underscored the need for such drawings to “know what is supposed to be used where.”
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41 Director Poupard clarified that the Village issued a building permit to code for 1000 Sunset Ridge. The
42 owner/developer now requested permission to deviate from that code. Chairperson Jamerson further
43 clarified that the request before the commission was to “grant special permission,” not to change the
44 code itself. Inspector Friedman commented that should the commission grant special permission for this
45 project, it was likely that other owners/developers would make similar requests. Mr. Frumm indicated
46 that while his property would be staffed 24-hours/seven days a week, the onsite maintenance person
47 would be available on a more limited basis.
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1 Fire Chief Nolan sympathized with the need of the owner/developer to reduce costs. Nonetheless, he
2 noted that the Village did not grant waivers for fire sprinklers. Director Poupard commented that this
3 variance could provide an opportunity, at the staff level, to work through the necessary protocols and
4 training—the Village was “open to something” that made sense. Mr. Moran added that just because MC
5 cable was new, did not mean that the product was inferior. He cited the reduction in labor costs and the
6 need to make projects more cost-effective for developers. Commissioner Boiko noted the finality of
7 using MC cable, as opposed to conduit, stating that “this change ends change.”
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9 Mr. Pecorano reviewed with commissioners the following deliverables:
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11 MC Cable for Feeders and Branch Wiring
12 A typical apartment layout, indicating the proposed locations where MC cable would be
13 installed
14 A list of where the owner/developer planned to use the cable (e.g., emergency system,
15 mechanical rooms, public areas, etc.)
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17 Stabiloy Cable
18 Voltage drop analysis by the engineer, starting at the ComEd transformer to the farthest panel
19 and/or mechanical equipment
20 Protocol for documenting the torque connection
21 Warranty literature
22 Certification for installation
23 Maintenance protocol
24 Internal company documents regarding accelerated corrosion testing
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26 Mr. Pecorano will follow-up with Inspector Friedman regarding a timeline for the deliverables. Mr.
27 Kavanagh also will research whether or not a firefighter had ever been injured as a result of MC cable.
28 Commissioner Boiko stressed the importance of the decision before the commission and, therefore, the
29 need to be as thorough as possible in its deliberations.
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31 Following the departure of the additional meeting attendees, commissioners shared their initial
32 impressions about MC cable. Chairperson Jamerson reminded them of their charge to act in the best
33 interest of Northbrook and, in so doing, consider the relevant economic and safety pieces. He was
34 doubtful that MC cable was superior to conduit. Inspector Friedman noted the particularity of
35 installation and that the Village was not ready to “open up” the material for general use. The fact that
36 no one in the region currently used the cable also concerned him.
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38 Fire Chief Nolan recalled a Memphis firefighter who died as a result of becoming entangled in MC cable.
39 He also observed that the commission originally amended the relevant code to preclude the use of the
40 cable. Commissioners agreed that the code represented a minimum standard and approving the
41 material would necessitate the development of “a whole new set of rules.” Chairperson Jamerson stated
42 that commissioners would need to determine if lowering the current standard was warranted.
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44 6. Inspector Report – Installation and Challenges
45 Inspector Friedman reported the electrical and other code violations, defects, and hazards encountered
46 “in the field.” Commissioners noted that a licensed electrician may not necessarily provide quality
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1 craftsmanship. However, they discussed the obstacles, including state processes and the related
2 administrative burden, associated with requiring electricians to be more than licensed (e.g., passing a
3 local test). Chairperson Jamerson observed that while explaining a code violation should take about 15
4 minutes, sometimes that explanation could take 45 minutes due to the “knowledge gap.”
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6 7. New Business
7 Commissioners scheduled the next Electrical Commission meeting for 5:00 PM on Thursday, February
8 28, 2013. At that meeting, they will further discuss the variance requests for 1000 Sunset Ridge.
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10 8. Old Business
11 There was no old business.
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13 9. Adjournment
14 There being no further business, Commissioner Petchenik moved, seconded by Commissioner Boiko, to
15 adjourn the meeting. On a voice vote, the motion unanimously carried. Chairperson Jamerson
16 adjourned the meeting at 7:20 PM.
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18 Respectfully submitted,
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20 /s/ Stacy J. Seiden
21 Recorder
Agenda
VILLAGE OF NORTHBROOK
ELECTRICAL COMMISSION
Thursday, January 31, 2013
Terrace Room
nd
(2 floor in south hall wing)
Northbrook Village Hall
1225 Cedar Lane
AGENDA
5:00 P.M.
1. Call to Order.
2. Public Comments.
3. Consideration of using Stabiloy MC cable
Stabiloy compact aluminum alloy in lieu of copper conductor for any wire # 3 and larger in
power distribution risers for a project in development.
4. Consideration of using MC cable for feeders & branch wiring
RE: Northbrook Municipal Code Amendment #230.43 (13)
Owner/Developer respectfully requests a variance to use MC Cable.
The following is a list of areas MC Cable shall be used:
PVC jacketed MC in poured in place decks - Sub panels feed under 200 amps -
within resident units - branch circuiting in public areas.
5. Inspectors report to commission regarding installation &
problems.
6. New Business.
7. Old Business.
8. Adjourn.
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