Harbor Commission (Application Review Committee)
Regular MeetingNorwalk, CT · November 18, 2020
Minutes
CITY OF NORWALK
NORWALK HARBOR MANAGEMENT COMMISSION
COMBINED APPLICATION REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETINGS
NOVEMBER 18, 2020
VIA TELECONFERENCE
ATTENDANCE: John Romano, Chair; John Crespo; Matt Gifford; Alan Kibbe;
Jeffrey Mangels; Christopher MacDonnell; John Pinto; Dennis
Santella
STAFF: Bryan Baker, Land Use Planner
OTHERS: Greg Scully, Harbor Master; Geoff Steadman, Consultant; Steve
Bartush, Shellfish Commission; Joe Schnierlein, Water Quality
Committee
*The Chairman reserves the right to change the order of the agenda*
1. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE
Dr. Pinto called the meeting to order at 6:02 p.m. and led the Assembly in reciting the
Pledge of Allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Mr. Romano asked if Ms. Jones had been invited to this meeting. Mr. MacDonald sent an
e-mail invitation to her.
3. APPLICATION REVIEW COMMITTEE – Dr. Pinto
a. 28 ½ Shorefront Park, Norwalk, Connecticut. Pre-submission application: Kevin
Foley (applicant), proposes to construct a 4’ by 68’ piling-supported timber pier, 3’
by 40’ aluminum ramp and 8’ by 20’ piling anchored timber floating dock for
private recreational boating.
Dr. Pinto reviewed the above application. He shared his screen and noted the Shellfish
Commission reviewed this application and indicated that this dock would adversely
impact the shellfish area. The 68ft pier is beyond the local spartina. He said that a
number of similar docks have been proposed in this area. This proposed dock would be
parallel with the dock at 30 Shorefront Park.
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The Harbor Management Commission expressed no objection of this pre-application
going forward for a permanent application due to the limited frontage. They noted this is
not setting a precedent for noncompliance for other applications. Mr. Romano said he
believed the applicant was required to submit an as built to the DEEP.
** MR. KIBBE MOVED TO APPROVE THE PRE-SUBMISSION
APPLICATION FOR 28 ½ SHOREFRONT PARK
Mr. Gifford asked if there was a concern with the existing pier at 30 Shorefront Park.
Mr. Bartush said there were no issues that he was aware of. Dr. Pinto said they remove
the dock during the winter as required. Mr. Santella asked if the homeowner was
required to make an application to the City with the as built. Mr. Romano explained
there is no Zoning process in Norwalk, but he feels there should be. He noted that this
topic was brought up several times.
Dr. Pinto said he copied Mr. Ireland on this application because they need electric and
water. Mr. Romano asked Mr. Kibbe to make a note of the fact that this Commission
reviews the projects, but the City does not get a permit. He would like to discuss this
further with Ms. Casey.
** MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY
b. Navigation Safety Risk Assessment: Relocation and Operation of Maritime
Aquarium and Seaport Association Excursion Vessels. RACE Coastal Engineering
has prepared an assessment documentation to address the navigation safety and risk
of operating the Maritime Aquarium Research Vessel and Sheffield Island
Lighthouse Ferry during proposed construction activities of the Walk Bridge
Project. In addition, risk assessment data have been provided to address
interactions between existing river users and contractor construction support
vessels in the area between the Stroffolino Bridge and Walk Bridge. RACE has
advised that due to the Walk Bridge design, a Construction Staging and Access Plan
has not been finalized and their Risk Assessment Report may require further
modifications.
Mr. Romano reviewed the item above. He said that the risk assessment deals with the
vessels and the normal river traffic.
Option A deals with berthing the two vessels. Moving the docks south of the Stroffolino
Bridge would require dredging. Option B would require building a dock for both vessels
on South Water Street. The vessels would pick up visitors from the public dock. The
Risk Assessment Report discusses the risk values and the level of consequences. Option
A has a greater risk rank and option B has a lower risk rank. There is a greater risk of
mooring the vessels at Site A.
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While the conclusion is that there have been no accidents at that site, the concern is about
what is going to happen during construction. Mr. Scully noted that no accidents
occurred during prime conditions. He said that without construction, it is easy to
maneuver that space; however, the letter should note that this is not a fair or precise risk
assessment.
Dr. Pinto said Site A has a higher risk value and to avoid the potential risk of accidents,
the vessels need to be removed from there. He addressed his concern about potential
collisions with barges, recreational vessels and rowers. Mr. Romano asked if a Marine
Police presence would be required during construction. Mr. Scully said they will have to
have Officers on site to direct traffic on the water. Dr. Pinto asked who would pay for the
Police to be there. Mr. Scully said that he believed the contractor would be responsible
for payment. Dr. Pinto said they are not in favor of having vessels placed between the
bridges. Mr. Scully agreed that the vessels need to be away from the construction area.
Dr. Pinto asked if the DEEP would overrule the local Harbor Master. He added that the
United States Coast Guard agreed with the Harbor Master. Mr. Steadman said that the
Coast Guard and Harbor Master are responsible for ensuring the safety of the Harbor
during construction. Dr. Pinto said the Risk Assessment is a work in progress. As more
information comes forward regarding the types of vessels that will be going back and
forth during the course of construction.
Dr. Pinto said he is going to respond to the draft Risk Assessment and let them know the
Commissioners reviewed the Assessment. He said they do not now yet if Manresa is
going to be used; this is a constant moving target.
Mr. Crespo said it looks like Option A is too dangerous. Dr. Pinto said Option A is the
preference of The Maritime Aquarium and the Seaport Association and the operating
captains of both vessels. They know there is a greater risk at Site A. Mr. Crespo asked
who will take the liability. For safety reasons rather than economic advantage, location B
is a better choice. Mr. Romano said thee would be an option C and that has not been
addressed. He said the ideal spot is a Veteran’s Park. Mr. Scully said they could float the
existing docks to Veteran’s Park. Mr. Romano noted they would have to dredge for all
three plans and because of the dredging some mitigation would have to be done.
Dr. Pinto expressed concern about public safety. Mr. Romano said they can add to their
response a request to explore Option C. Mr. Gifford suggested also including that the
Harbor Management Commission support the Harbor Master’s comments.
Mr. Steadman asked who was making the decision of where the vessels would go. Mr.
Romano said that both the Seaport Association and The Maritime Aquarium and the
vessel captains are making the decision. Mr. Steadman said the Harbor Master has
control over the placement of the vessels. They do not have authority to place the vessels
in the Harbor. Mr. Scully said he wants to set up a more feasible option with the less risk.
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The Harbor Management Commission agreed with the Harbor Master’s recommendation
that Plan B is the safest of the two options and recommended proposing another plan that
would incorporate the use of Veteran’s Park. Mr. Scully said that Option C seems to be
the least intrusive location.
Dr. Pinto said he will create a statement regarding public safety over convenience of the
working operation of the vessels. Also in the statement will be a request to explore
Option C, south of the Visitor Dock area. This will be an application to the DEEP and it
is hoped they will abide by the Harbor Master’s recommendation.
Mr. Kibbe said the CEO of The Maritime Aquarium is one of the large developers in
South Norwalk and the voice of the CEO at The Maritime Aquarium has a City
connection. He added that the Seaport Association is afraid they are going to lose traffic.
Dr. Pinto noted there is signage. Mr. Steadman said they will lose parking at The
Maritime Aquarium.
Mr. Kibbe said there is great parking at Veteran’s Park. The Seaport Association does
not want to lose their visibility. The CEO at the Maritime Aquarium is a big time SoNo
developer who is connected to the City and has a big voice.
Mr. Steadman said if they keep Option A and it is determined that it is not safe, they
would have to shut down operation until the dock is moved.
The Commissioners agreed that Dr. Pinto will send a letter to Race Coastal Engineering
stating that the Harbor Management Commission’s objections to Option A stands; Option
B would be more palatable and requesting that Race Coastal Engineering come up with
an Option C.
c. Standing Action Items: DOT’s update to include and utilize Manresa Island as a
staging and storage area. Open discussion of future Walk Bridge proposals
regarding placement of transmission cables by Eversource and DOT, DOT’s plans
for stationing work barges in Norwalk Harbor; DOT’s plans to monitor water
quality and bulkhead construction at proposed South Water Street staging
properties.
Dr. Pinto said he has not heard from Eversource. He noted they are getting bits and
pieces of information about the project, but they are not seeing the whole picture. Mr.
Romano said the Commission wants to help the State as much as they can, within reason.
He said the Commission is not a negative force. This component is taking a long time
and the Commission has been very patient.
Mr. Romano said there are still a number of outstanding issues to deal with. They need
to discuss the Manresa staging area, plans for water quality monitoring and the bulkhead
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at South Water Street, which is not a part of this application, but is part of a beautification
project. They also need to know about the status of the artifacts from the Fort Point area.
Mr. Steadman reiterated that the Harbor Master has the sole authority over the safety of
vessels in the Harbor.
4. CHAIRMAN’S REPORT – Romano
Mr. Romano reported that the Ordinance Committee met. He said that hunters would be
prohibited from going into previously designed areas. Firearms would be prohibited on
any City property and people would be in jeopardy of getting arrested. He said there is
no driving factual instances what this is going to cure. He said the Ordinance discussed
has been on the books for 40-50 years and now there is a drive.
Mr. Romano reported that quite a few people spoke at the Ordinance Committee meeting.
One person representing the Republican Party asked what was driving this and why it
was necessary. He said the Chair of the Committee said they want to lock the barn before
the horse gets out. Mr. Romano said only criminals will have firearms. He said that
Police Officers and duly appointed guards can still have a firearm.
Mr. Romano said that people with permits will not be able to go onto City property with a
firearm. He said the Ordinance terminology is broad. This eliminates hunting along the
coastline. He said people will hunt in Long Island Sound, but they would have to go
through City property to get to the launch. He said the vote on the item was tabled.
Mr. Kibbe said that a moratorium on hunting wildlife in Norwalk Harbor was put in last
year. The issue was carrying a weapon to the boat from Veteran’s Park and Calf Pasture
Beach to get to hunting sites. That turned into other City properties. Mr. Schnierlein
noted that the DEEP encourages hunting to reduce the goose population. If the hunting is
stopped, there will be an increase in the geese population.
5. STAFF REPORTS:
a. Harbor Master – Scully
Mr. Scully reported that most of the boats are off their moorings. Mr. Romano said he
heard the City launch ramps were closed due to Covid testing at Veteran’s Park. He said
that interfered with people going to their launch. He said it was an issue. Mr. Scully said
he was not notified. Mr. Steadman will draft a letter to Mayor Rilling from Mr. Romano
stating that an accommodation has to be made for the boaters.
Mr. MacDonnell asked about the abandoned boat at Tavern Island. Mr. Scully said the
boat was on the owner’s property. He said he spoke to the owner who has to make
arrangements to remove the boat.
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b. Consultant – Steadman
Mr. Steadman discussed the public hearing on the Waste Water Treatment plant
requested by Save the Sound scheduled for January 14th. He said the Commission should
be prepared to make comments. This is an opportunity to understand the operation of the
Waste Water Treatment plant. Dr. Pinto will send comments from Save the Sound to the
Commissioners. Mr. Romano will invite a member of the WPCA to a Harbor
Management Commission meeting.
6. SHELLFISH COMMISSION – Johnson and Bartush
Mr. Bartush reported that he submitted his comments on 28 ½ Shorefront Park and the
Cove Marina project. The DEEP noticed the application for 7 & 9 Nykland.
Construction can begin as early as December 1st for the cable.
7. COMMITTEE REPORTS
a. Mooring and Harbor Safety – Santella
Mr. Santella reported that the season is coming to an end. Most of the boats are out of
the water. He said he is not aware of any Harbor Safety issues.
Mr. Romano said the mooring numbers are going down. He recognizes that it is
accessibility and parking. He said that Mr. Kibbe and others are working on this and had
a conversation with the City about reclaiming property taken by homeowners. He said he
hopes there will be better access in the future.
Mr. Kibbe asked what part of the Harbor was most desirable for moorings so they could
create access. Mr. Steadman said it would be good to keep that on the west side of the
Harbor, near the South Norwalk Boat club. He said the east side is full. Mr. MacDonnell
asked about access at Gregory Point. Mr. Scully said there are a lot of mudflats there. It
is shallow between the end of Cove Avenue and Marvin Beach.
Mr. Kibbe said the end of Fifth Street would be a good area for launching. The
Commission has the ability to make it available to the public. He added that there is
room to put a dinghy dock there. There is also a lot of street parking on Cove Avenue.
Mr. Gifford noted that he sees a lot of people launching paddle boards and kayaks from
the end of Cove Avenue.
b. Finance – Kibbe
There was no discussion.
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c. Plans and Recommendations – Mangels
There was no discussion.
d. Newsletter/Website – Kibbe
There was no discussion.
e. Water Quality – Crespo and Schnierlein
Mr. Schnierlein discussed the placement of water quality monitoring buoys. He said that
Mr. Crespo may have more experience on this topic. He suggested placing them so that
there is one coming into the Harbor and once leaving the harbor. The cost would be
about $70,000 per year. Mr. Schnierlein said he asked Save the Sound if they monitor
what comes in from the upper Harbor and if that was separated from what is coming in
from the Sound. He said he has not heard from them.
Mr. Schnierlein described how the buoys would operate and noted the floating units
would have to be placed where they would not be vandalized. He said he heard that
Eversource may have grants available. He said the units at The Maritime Aquarium had
four different parameters and lasted for 13 years. They were recalibrated every year.
The data Save the Sound used was from a summer program run by Sarah Crosby.
Dr. Pinto asked what constitutes how a body of water being graded. He noted that each
body of water is different. Mr. Schnierlein said that what makes the Harbor unique is that
it is 2/3 mad flat and as a result, responds to the weather faster than deep water harbors.
Right now, hundreds of thousands of menhaden are in the Norwalk Harbor.
Mr. Schnierlein said that he and Mr. Kibbe touched base with Ms. Casey to discuss
funding for the buoys. He said the Mayor got flack on the statement where the Harbor
was given an F. He said they can do measurements starting in March of the Harbor is not
iced over. The buoys do not do well in frozen water.
Mr. Schnierlein said if they know something is going to happen every year, then it is a
natural thing. Mr. Romano said he wants to stay in the loop on this. Mr. Crespo and Mr.
Schnierlein will take the lead. Mr. Romano said it would be a great accomplishment if
they get the grants to purchase the buoys.
The Commissioners discussed the chemical makeup of the Norwalk Harbor. Mr.
Schnierlein noted that a study of plankton has never been done. He said that water that is
too clean, will impact shellfish growth. In addition, there is a national wildlife preserve
and that impacts the nutrient level.
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Mr. Schnierlein said the Commission has the right to tell Save the Sound that they
disagree with their report. He said it would behoove the City to hire someone to do the
study and do it right. It would make it easier to do the study if they had the remote
buoys. The study would use the same parameters used by Save the Sound.
Mr. Schnierlein said that when they took plankton samples, the majority were copepods
and they ate the algae. Shellfish like to eat algae and copepods. Dr. Pinto reiterated his
questions about what constitutes water quality in our Harbor.
f. Bridges
There was no discussion.
8. PUBLIC COMMENT
Public participation comments are not verbatim and represent a summarization of
statements unless otherwise noted.
Ms. Diane Lauricella said there is a public hearing on January 14 relating to the discharge
renewal. She said the public, including the Harbor Management Commission can ask
questions and make comments.
Ms. Lauricella said she offered to meet and help organize an agenda item as soon as
possible to give presentation about green infrastructure. She said there is a need for this
Commission to urge the City to use green infrastructure as an item on their permit form.
She said it should become a regular part of business.
Mr. Romano said the City requires 10-15% green space. Ms. Lauricella said she lobbied
the Common Council to request the Zoning Commission add the need to increase green
building design and green building structure. She said green building design is mostly
energy and is a construction building measure. Mr. Romano said he thought he saw that
in the East Norwalk Transit District design. Ms. Lauricella said she was the proponent
and that it should be Citywide.
Ms. Lauricella said she thought this Commission would be a wonderful proponent for
where possible, green infrastructure. Mr. Romano commented that Ms. Lauricella was
talking about rain garden. He said he did not know how this Commission could advocate
for this because it was not along the Harbor. Ms. Lauricella said Save the Sound gave the
Harbor an F which was due to run off. She said there are more methods for cleaning up
the run off and would like to make a presentation. She added that this is beyond a rain
garden.
Ms. Lauricella said there will be an opportunity next year to promote this. There will be,
especially with the new federal administration, money for towns to incorporate green
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infrastructure. Mr. Romano noted that with all this Commission has to do with the DOT
and Eversource, they are pressed for time.
Mr. Steadman suggested that Ms. Lauricella start with the water quality community and
aske if the City has a stormwater manual that includes these measures. Ms. Lauricella
said she looked at the stormwater projects and it is difficult to get green infrastructure to
be included in certain sites. She said she brought it up to the Water Quality Committee,
but it fell to the wayside.
Ms. Lauricella said she would love to have the Water Quality Committee put it on their
agenda but knows the Harbor Management Commission has great influence. She said
that other departments need to think along these lines.
Dr. Pinto asked Ms. Lauricella for an example of what the Harbor Management
Commission could address. Ms. Lauricella said green infrastructure is more than plant.
Mr. Romano said the State already has a mandate through DEEP. Ms. Lauricella said
that people rarely utilize all of the different measures. She noted that she and others
recommended a green roof at the mall. Mr. Romano said the mall application by passed
the Harbor Management Commission.
Ms. Lauricella said there is not a coordinated effort to capture federal dollars. She said
her presentation would be a short slide show of what New Haven is doing. This would be
under the Water Quality Committee report. Mr. Romano asked Ms. Lauricella work this
out with Mr. Schnierlein.
9. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: October 28, 2020
No action was taken on the approval of the minutes.
10. ADJOURNMENT
There was no further business and the meeting was adjourned at 8:38 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Rosemarie Lombardi
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Agenda
Norwalk Harbor Management Commission
Application Review Committee Meeting
Wednesday, November 18, 2020
6:00 p.m.
Zoom.us Webinar Conference
1. 28 ½ Shorefront Park, Norwalk, Connecticut. Pre-submission application: Kevin Foley
(applicant), proposes to construct a 4’ by 68’ piling-supported timber pier, 3’ by 40’ aluminum
ramp and 8’ by 20’ piling anchored timber floating dock for private recreational boating.
2. Navigation Safety Risk Assessment: Relocation and Operation of Maritime Aquarium and
Seaport Association Excursion Vessels. RACE Coastal Engineering has prepared an assessment
documentation to address the navigation safety and risk of operating the Maritime Aquarium
Research Vessel and Sheffield Island Lighthouse Ferry during proposed construction activities of
the Walk Bridge Project. In addition, risk assessment data have been provided to address
interactions between existing river users and contractor construction support vessels in the area
between the Stroffolino Bridge and Walk Bridge. RACE has advised that due to the Walk Bridge
design, a Construction Staging and Access Plan has not been finalized and their Risk Assessment
Report may require further modifications.
Standing Action Items: DOT’s update to include and utilize Manresa Island as a staging and storage area.
Open discussion of future Walk Bridge proposals regarding placement of transmission cables by
Eversource and DOT, DOT’s plans for stationing work barges in Norwalk Harbor; DOT’s plans to
monitor water quality and bulkhead construction at proposed South Water Street staging properties.
John Thomas Pinto
Chairman, Application Review Committee
Norwalk Harbor Management Commission
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