Sustainable Environmental Advisory Commission
Regular MeetingSkokie, IL · February 23, 2022
Minutes
Memorandum
TO: Sustainable Environmental Advisory Commissioners
FROM: _______________________________________________________________________
Andrew D. DeCanniere, Commissioner, Sustainable Environmental Advisory Commission
DATE: March 15, 2022
SUBJECT: February 23, 2022 Sustainable Environmental Advisory Commission (SEAC)
Meeting Minutes
Meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM
Due to the surge in COVID-19 cases, this meeting is being held virtually. Members of the public
who wish to comment as to an item on the published agenda must submit their statement or
question in writing to Sustainability@skokie.org and all properly submitted statements or
questions will be presented to Commission members and made part of the record. Written
comments may also be submitted by mail to Village of Skokie, Attn: Sustainability Commission,
5127 Oakton St., Skokie, IL 60077, or via the Village’s drop box located by the public entry.
This meeting was streamed live on YouTube on the Village’s YouTube channel, which can be
found at www.youtube.com/user/thevillageofskokie. A recording of this meeting may also be
viewed online at www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdt5QxFyk.
Present: Chairman Jennifer Grossman, Commissioners Christopher Buccola, Andrew
DeCanniere, Michael Gershbein, Lisa Gotkin, Olivia Mahoney, Rick Moskovitz, Emily Okallau,
Robert Render, Charles Saxe, Trustee Liaison Khem Khoeun, Trustee Liaison Ralph Klein,
Director of Public Works / Staff Liaison Max Slankard, Assistant to the Public Works Director /
Staff Liaison Elizabeth Zimmerman
Also Present: John Lockerby, Village Manager
Lauren Grodnicki, Skokie resident
Absent: Commissioner Alma Likic
I. Approval of January meeting minutes
Minutes from the January 25, 2022 meeting of the Sustainable Environmental Advisory
Commission were unanimously approved.
II. Old Business
a. Endorsement of the Climate Action Plan for the Chicago Region
Chairman Grossman stated that the endorsement of the Climate Action Plan for the
Chicago Region is on the agenda for March 7th meeting of the Village Board.
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Staff Liaison Slankard stated that they do plan to take a resolution endorsing the Climate
Action Plan for the Chicago Region, which was created by the Metropolitan Mayor’s
Caucus, for approval to the Village Board, which will be on March 7th. The Commission
endorsed bringing this before the Village Board during our November 2021 meeting.
b. Waste Sub-committee final report approval
Chairman Grossman stated Commissioners should all have received the memo from the
Waste Subcommittee from Staff Liaison Zimmerman. Hopefully, all Commissioners have
had the opportunity to review the memo since then. This memo takes what was
previously presented to the Commission, and incorporates the findings from the
Greenhouse Gas (GHG) Inventory and the UIC Capstone Refuse Study, and reworked it
based upon comments from the Commission. This is what will be presented to staff and,
hypothetically, to the Village Board.
Commissioner Okallau stated that one thing that they were conscious of when they were
putting it together was they were trying to create recommendations for staff, in order to
provide them with opportunity to have action items that they may explore. They were
conscious that the recommendations have more to do with exploring than they do with
directly adopting. These are the things that we think are worthy of further study or
further consideration. Overall, they did not want to say that this is the way that we
should move forward with waste reduction within the Village. It is more that these
are good ideas, and we ought to take a look at how we can incorporate them.
Commissioner Saxe stated that there are four recommendations. One of these is the
Village-wide curbside food scrap composting. The other is reducing refuse pick-up
from twice weekly to once weekly. That’s a very specific recommendation. He inquired
as to whether there is any expectation there would be action on that.
Commissioner Okallau said that she believes they were careful to word it in such a way
that it would be an exploration of doing that, and not necessarily just doing it outright.
Commissioner Saxe asked if there was any reason why we are not saying, outright, that
there is no justification for a second weekly pick-up.
Commissioner Okallau said that was one of the things that was talked about. Maybe they
should consider whether there is a justification for a second pick-up, instead of saying
‘What’s the justification for getting rid of the second pick-up?’ However, they understand
it is a little bit more nuanced than just dropping the second pick-up. It does require
investment. Even just dropping the second pick-up does require an investment in
infrastructure in order to be able to do that. Therefore, they do believe that dropping the
second pick-up is a good idea, but they also recognize it is going to require data. The
study was, of course, a small-scale study. It was not a large-scale study. Also, just
recommending that it be dropped is not necessarily as simple as it may seem and does
require that investment.
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Commissioner Saxe asked whether there is a timeline for this, because there is another
budget cycle coming up in April. Therefore, if we’re going to act on these, isn’t it correct
that we would be looking at the next budget cycle?
Chairman Grossman stated that the working idea, since the beginning, was that any major
programatic change would come out in May of 2023, when the Lakeshore Recycling
Systems (LRS) contract with the Village would be up and big changes could be made.
Commissioner Saxe stated that it then sounds as though the issue of the second pick-up
would be built into the next contract.
Chairman Grossman stated that would be her understanding.
Commissioner McNelis stated that he doesn’t necessarily think it has to be, because
garbage pick-up is done in-house. He doesn’t think it necessarily has to be tied to a
budget year.
Commissioner Okallau stated that she believes that the expectation is that these are things
that will be worked on immediately, with the understanding that the outcome will come
with the new budget year. Even if these things are worked on quite soon, the actual result
or change might happen with the new budget year, and also with the development of the
Village’s next Environmental Sustainability Plan.
Staff Liaison Slankard stated that he thinks the Board, Village Manager and Mayor asked
for the waste reduction recommendations to ultimately come to the Village Board in the
context of the new Environmental Sustainability Plan, so that the Board would have the
context of the sustainability goals for that discussion. Therefore, as has been said by the
subcommittee members, he believes the drive is toward that May 2023 implementation,
when those recycling program elements will change. There is also, of course, the
recommendation with respect to consideration of an enhanced or expanded organics
program, which would also lend itself to that same calendar of consideration for a
program expansion. Therefore, he thinks that one of the imperatives from the staff’s
standpoint, in looking at the totality of these recommendations, in the wake of the
discussions and presentation at the last two meetings of this Commission, is to identify
and get reactions from the refuse and recycling study pieces in order to identify additional
research or exploration that the Commissioners felt like they wanted to see the staff
perform, in order to help finalize these thoughts or recommendations. So, that’s certainly
a part of this as well. It certainly is easier to consider a contraction of a service versus an
expansion of a service, but May 2023 is certainly the date that we are looking towards.
Further discussion ensued.
c. Commission review of RFP for next Sustainability Plan
Staff Liaison Zimmerman stated that the draft of the RFP that she sent out to
Commissioners is meant to be a working draft. One thing that she will say is that
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the Village is trying to stay within the stated budget. They cannot go over the stated
budget. So, they are open to any and all suggestions. They may reach a point, when
the RFP proposals are received, where they may have to come back to the Commission
to make some tough decisions as far as what may be kept in and what cannot be kept
in. However, for now it is just a matter of Commissioners reviewing the RFP and then
providing feedback. She’s hoping to get everyone’s feedback, and if there are thoughts
after tonight’s discussion, those should be sent to her by tomorrow or Friday morning,
as she is trying to get this to the Purchasing Department by the end of the day on Friday.
It will then go up to public bid next week.
Commissioner McNelis asked Staff Liaison Zimmerman whether she said that we
could make recommendations regarding the RFP and then send those to her.
Staff Liaison Zimmerman confirmed this is the case. She said that she can take comments
tonight, or she could be emailed directly.
Commissioner McNelis said that for “Scope of Work,” Item Number 2, he was thinking
that in terms of standards and codes and ordinances, perhaps those words could be added
into that sentence.
Commissioner Okallau stated that she agrees. It should be something that has more
actionable items, as far as passing ordinances that require this, that or the other.
Commissioner DeCanniere stated that in looking over the draft of the RFP, while he
thinks that the previous Environmental Sustainability Plan was a good starting point,
one thing that he is happy to see is the significant expansion in terms of what the
plan will cover. As has recently come to light, the 2016 - 2021 Environmental
Sustainability Plan may not have been quite specific enough in certain respects.
For example, the new plan is proposed to include sections that address Land Use and
Development, Open Space and Ecosystems, Food Systems, and Health and Wellness.
He stated he believes these all to be very welcome additions, particularly given the
recent debate over the Carvana tower, among other things. Hopefully, the addition of
these items will go a significant way toward addressing issues within these various
areas.
Commissioner Okallau stated that she felt there were a few things missing, though
perhaps they are implied or else are sub-sections of these larger sections. However,
she said she feels like housing is something that is not really something that is
represented — though she doesn’t know if that would fall under Land Use and
Development. She said that, from her perspective, housing is one of the most important
social aspects of sustainability and of climate change, and she isn’t sure that is really
captured explicitly within the proposed Environmental Sustainability Plan. Where you
live is one of the greatest factors in terms of what kind of life you’re going to be able
to live. Where your home is located has one of the greatest impacts — and lifelong
impacts — on what kind of life you are going to have. She just feels as though that
is kind of missing. Perhaps that’s kind of part of the greater Comprehensive Plan, but it
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is certainly something that she thinks about when it comes to sustainability and the
environment. Another one that is missing, but that can be implied and can be woven
in, is equity. She said she doesn’t even know how it could be incorporated, because
it does need to be incorporated into each of these items in some ways, and in other
ways environmental justice, on such a micro-level, is not necessarily all that
applicable. Therefore, she’s a little hesitant to call it “environmental justice,” but on
the other hand she feels there needs to be a consideration for equity for everything that
is implemented. When we talk about open space and ecosystems or transportation,
equity obviously must be a huge portion of those things.
Commissioner Saxe stated that the Climate Action Plan for the Chicago Region talks
about adaptability and resilience and mitigation, and he thinks that we want to consider
those three areas, though he thinks that the Environmental Sustainability, as proposed,
Plan looks pretty good and is pretty comprehensive. He thinks he wants to make it
aligned with what’s happening with the Climate Action Plan, with the Metropolitan
Mayor’s Caucus, and with what is going on in the region in general.
Commissioner DeCanniere stated that is one thing that he included in his feedback,
which he sent Staff Liaison Zimmerman via email. He inquired if we are also going to
incorporate some of the elements/goals/objectives from the Greenest Region Compact
(GRC). When they were going over some of the elements of the GRC during a recent
Go Green Skokie meeting that he was able to attend, it seemed that there were some
things in that plan that could be applied or incorporated into our next Environmental
Sustainability Plan.
Chairman Grossman asked whether Staff Liaison Zimmerman will be sending out the
updated draft RFP.
Staff Liaison Zimmerman said it is up to the Commission. She could just make sure that
everybody’s comments are incorporated, and then send it out for our information. If we
wanted to delay by one week, she could send it back out to the Commission to get email
approvals. Chairman Grossman stated that she doesn’t want to delay getting the RFP out.
Staff Liaison Zimmerman stated that she will also be checking her email for the next day
or two, and will make sure that suggestions get incorporated. She said that she cannot
promise that everything will stay in at the end. We will have to take a look at it again
as a group, and take a look at budget, and what the different proposals came back at,
but we certainly want to get the recommendations in there for the purposes of the RFP.
Commissioner DeCanniere also inquired as to the community input component of the
process of creating the next Environmental Sustainability Plan. He went on to say that
he can only assume that we will not, however, have an exact idea of what the community
input process might look like until we engage the services of a particular vendor.
Chairman Grossman stated that there is a community input component within the plan
itself. This is just the RFP for the plan.
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Commissioner Okallau said that the vendors should come back with information that
includes what they are proposing in terms of community engagement.
Commissioner Saxe stated he thinks this is good enough for an RFP. When the proposals
come back, they can then be evaluated in terms of these other aspects. He went on to say
that he would echo Chairman Grossman’s sentiment in that we should keep to the
timeline and move forward. Commissioners Okallau, Mahoney and McNelis concurred.
d. Skokie’s Spring Greening - Update
Staff Liaison Zimmerman stated that the recycling stations are going to be coming back
to Skokie’s Spring Greening this year. They’re going to be in the lot north of Westfield
Old Orchard Shopping Center, near the green office building. Some examples include
Simple Recycling, paint recycling, battery recycling, as well as recycling of fire
extinguishers and things of that nature. The Skokie Park District updated the Skokie’s
Spring Greening website, and so now the volunteer waiver form is up on the site.
She asked that the event be promoted, including via social media, and that
Commissioners volunteer themselves. She said that the Village will also keep promoting
the event via the Village’s electronic newsletter (SkokieNews) and all of their social
media outlets.
Skokie resident Lauren Grodnicki said that it seems to her that every year Spring
Greening presents an opportunity to emit greenhouse gases by people just idling
in their cars as the wait in line to drop off their recyclables. She inquired as to whether
we could figure out a way not to have this happen.
Chairman Grossman said she doesn’t know the answer. It’s a great question, and it is
a problem, but we do not have any involvement in terms of how the event is set up. So,
at the present time, we don’t have an answer.
Ms. Grodnicki then added that she is concerned there could also be a health hazard to the
volunteers that are standing there, breathing in those emissions/fumes for the duration of
the event.
III. New Business
a. New email address created for Commission
Staff Liaison Zimmerman spoke about how a new email address has been created
for the Commission. Rather than emailing Staff Liaison Zimmerman, or emailing
publiccomments@skokie.org or citizencomments@skokie.org, residents may now
contact the Sustainable Environmental Advisory Commission directly, at our very own
email address, which is Sustainability@skokie.org. She said that they had never really
contemplated that a dedicated email address would be needed, until all of the comments
that were received last month came in. She went on to say that she just wanted to be sure
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that comments directed to the Commission are not being lost or mixed in with her email.
She said that she thinks as we move forward with some of our new initiatives, and with
the next version of the Environmental Sustainability Plan, coupled with how we will be
soliciting community feedback, they just wanted to create an email for the Commission.
Commissioner DeCanniere added that he emailed Staff Liaisons Slankard and
Zimmerman a couple of updates for the Sustainable Environmental Advisory
Commission webpage, which included the new email address. He went on to say that
he figures that placing our email address on our webpage should make it easier for people
to contact us.
Staff Liaison Zimmerman stated that she had seen his email, though she hadn’t had the
chance to review it. She is also aware that he updated the Recycling and Disposal
Programs brochure. They will definitely get around to adding / updating those items
on the website as soon as they can.
b. Guest Speaker: John Lockerby, Village Manager - The Path Forward to Furthering
Sustainability in Economic Development
Mr. Lockerby introduced himself, thanked the Commission for the work they have been
doing, and gave a presentation that takes a look at how we can further sustainability in
land use and development within our community. This included a look at the land use and
development processes, talking about the processes as they stand today as well as some
things that are on the horizon.
A question and answer session, in which Commissioners were able to ask questions,
get answers, and give their feedback, followed his presentation.
IV. Next Meeting
Based upon the expected availability of Commission members, the next meeting will be held on
Tuesday, March 22, 2022.
V. Adjournment
There being no further business, Commissioner Saxe made a motion to adjourn the meeting,
which was seconded by Commissioner Gershbein. Meeting adjourned at 9:53 PM.
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Agenda
Village of Skokie
Sustainable Environmental Advisory Commission
AGENDA
February 23, 2022
7:00 pm
Due to the surge in COVID-19 cases, this meeting is being held virtually. Members of
the public who wish to comment as to an item on the published agenda must submit their
statement or question in writing to Sustainability@skokie.org and all properly submitted
statements or questions will be presented to Commission members and made part of the
record. Written comments may also be submitted by mail to Village of Skokie, Attn:
Sustainability Commission, 5127 Oakton St, Skokie IL, 60077, or via the Village’s drop
box located by the public entry.
The meeting is live streamed at www.youtube.com/user/thevillageofskokie
I. Approval of minutes
II. Old Business
a. Endorsement of the Climate Action Plan for Chicago Region – March 7th
Board meeting
b. Waste sub-committee final report approval
c. Commission review of RFP for next Sustainability Plan
d. Spring Greening website – updated volunteer form. Still looking for
volunteers – Sunday April 3rd.
III. New Business
a. New email address created for Commission
b. Guest Speaker: John Lockerby, Village Manager - The Path Forward to
furthering sustainability in Economic Development
IV. Next meeting
V. Other business
VI. Adjournment