Sustainable Environmental Advisory Commission
Regular MeetingSkokie, IL · May 24, 2022
Minutes
Memorandum
TO: Sustainable Environmental Advisory Commissioners
FROM: _______________________________________________________________________
Andrew D. DeCanniere, Commissioner, Sustainable Environmental Advisory Commission
DATE: June 23, 2022
SUBJECT: May 24, 2022 Sustainable Environmental Advisory Commission (SEAC)
Meeting Minutes
Meeting was called to order at 7:03 PM in the Council Chambers at Skokie Village Hall
Present: Chairman Jennifer Grossman, Commissioners Christopher Buccola, Andrew
DeCanniere, Michael Gershbein, Alma Likic, Jim McNelis, Rick Moskovitz, Emily Okallau,
Charlie Saxe, Trustee Liaison Khem Khoeun, Trustee Liaison Ralph Klein, Director of Public
Works / Staff Liaison Max Slankard, Assistant to the Director of Public Works / Staff Liaison
Elizabeth Zimmerman
Also Present: Matt Brandmeyer, Director of Community Development, Village of Skokie
Josie Neville, Intern, Village of Skokie
Ted Redmond, Co-Founder, paleBLUEdot LLC
I. Approval of the April meeting minutes
Minutes from the April 26, 2022 meeting of the Sustainable Environmental Advisory
Commission were unanimously approved.
II. Old Business
a. 30th Annual Chicago River Day — May 14th
Commissioner McNelis noted that he participated in a Chicago River Day event, which
took place in Skokie between Dempster & Main. The event was pretty well attended.
Lots of different materials were found/collected, such as glass, metal and plastic.
Staff Liaison Slankard stated he attended a Chicago River Day event as well. He said that
there was a Washington University alumni group that participated, as well as a group of
students from the Northwestern University Kellogg MBA program. He went on to note
that there were lots of small scraps and microplastics.
Commissioner McNelis stated that much of the trash seems to accumulate near the
bridges (e.g. the bridges at Dempster and Main), between the fence and the river.
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b. CUB Solar Forum Update — Charlie
Commissioner Saxe said he will attempt to follow up with Skokie Public Library to
secure a room in which to hold the CUB Solar Forum. Goal is to hopefully hold an
in person CUB Solar event. He wants to try and get something set up, so they have the
ability to publicize the event enough in advance that there will be time for people to
take advantage of the program.
c. Solid Waste Intern
Staff Liaison Zimmerman introduced the Village of Skokie’s Solid Waste/Recycling
Intern, Josie Neville. She went on to say that though she has been with the Village for
only the last two days, she has already written about five articles for the Village’s
print newsletter, NewSkokie, and has really hit the ground running. We will be talking
about this year’s marketing calendar at the end of the meeting. We are waiting for door
hangers and, as soon as those arrive, Ms. Neville will be out in the alleys, looking at each
cart, offering advice as to how homeowners can recycle better.
Ms. Neville then proceeded to introduce herself to the Commission. She stated that she
just finished her undergrad degree at Loyola University, majoring in Environmental
Conservation and Restoration. She will be returning to Loyola University for her
Master’s of Environmental Science in Sustainability. She is not quite done
with her education, but she is happy to be working in Skokie, and interning for the
summer, applying the things that were discussed in the classroom to real life. She also
spoke about the work she has done with Loyola University’s Office of Sustainability.
d. Speaker: Matt Brandmeyer, Director of Community Development
i. Comp Plan update
Matt Brandmeyer was in attendance to continue our discussion from
the March 2022 SEAC meeting.
He asked if Commissioners had the opportunity to look over the chapter that was
included with tonight’s meeting invitation. This continues the discussion from
March, where he was proposing to incorporate the objectives and programs from
the 2016 - 2021 Environmental Sustainability Plan into the Comprehensive Plan.
Being that this would be a sort of initial step before we adopt the new
Environmental Sustainability Plan early next year. This is something that
probably should have been done after the current Environmental Sustainability
Plan was adopted or approved back in 2016. So, we are playing catch-up, and
there is a lot of dated stuff included. He said that he thinks that, overall, the
Village has progressed in our thinking about these things. So, it doesn’t do
everything we hope or intend to do. It’s just an initial step, and things will
hopefully grow as we adopt our new Environmental Sustainability Plan.
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He said he thinks that staff will then need to come back and amend the
Comprehensive Plan yet again. Therefore, he provides a bit of an explanation,
and also includes some of the steps that the Village has taken over the last
several years. However, it is basically what he presented to the Commission
this past March. He tried to summarize or paraphrase each of the introductory
paragraphs in each section, and then there are the items that pertain to land use
and development. This is just an outgrowth of what we discussed, and he is
happy to answer any questions. Overall, he is asking for our recommendation to
the Plan Commission. They would then schedule a public hearing, and move
forward with the adoption of this chapter amendment.
Commissioner Okallau said that one of the things that she had noticed, and she
is a little biased as someone who works in the environmental field, but there is
not a lot of urgency in the way it is worded.
Mr. Brandmeyer stated that this is actually summarized / taken from the 2016 -
2021Environmental Sustainability Plan itself.
Commissioner Okallau then stated that it seems that there is then an opportunity
to make it a little bit more current in terms of the language.
Mr. Brandmeyer said he believes that is what we should do with our new plan. He
said that he hopes the new plan provides that sense of urgency, and that it gets into
other areas when it comes to land use and development.
Commissioner McNelis stated he appreciates Mr. Brandmeyer putting the
document together. He went on to say that since we will have to live with this
until the new Environmental Sustainability Plan is adopted, he has a suggested
edit. On page two of the document, he said that it should talk about the Air
Quality Index (AQI) with respect to both pollutants and also Greenhouse Gas
(GHG) emissions.
Mr. Brandmeyer reiterated that this, too, is verbatim from the existing
Environmental Sustainability Plan.
Additional discussion ensued.
Commissioner McNelis stated that he thinks that this is a good start in terms
of getting this new chapter included in the Comprehensive Plan. The new
Sustainability Plan will come out later this fall, so we are only looking at
a matter of a few months where this version is in place. He said that he
thinks that the main thing, at this point, is getting something into the
Comprehensive Plan so that it is an official part of the planning process.
When the new plan comes out, we can keep in mind how we would want
to incorporate that into the Comprehensive Plan chapter. We would rewrite
the chapter based on the new plan, incorporating much of this.
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Commissioner Saxe stated he thinks that this is an accurate representation of the
2016 - 2021 Environmental Sustainability Plan. There are some things that
are not in there, but this is not quoting from the plan directly. It does a good
job of summarizing.
Chairman Grossman asked what happens next with this chapter. Mr. Brandmeyer
stated that if we recommend approval tonight, it will go to the Plan Commission
for a public hearing, to amend the Comprehensive Plan by incorporating this
chapter. They will review and then provide a recommendation to the Village
Board. It will then go to the Village Board, and will be introduced at a first
reading as a new ordinance to amend the Comprehensive Plan. This would be
followed by a second and final reading thereafter. There will be two meetings
before the Village Board at which this would be enacted. He estimates that it will
probably be August before this is done. He believes that is what he originally said,
in terms of when we may expect this process to be complete.
III. Action Item: Vote to approve updates to the Village of Skokie Comp Plan
Chapter 5.5 Environment. If approved, updates sent to Plan Commission for review
Commissioners voted to approve the updates to the Village of Skokie Comprehensive
Plan.
Mr. Brandmeyer went on to note that his last day with the Village of Skokie will be
Friday.
IV. New Business
a. Speaker: Ted Redmond, Co-Founder of paleBLUEdot
i. Environmental Sustainability Plan (ESP) overview and review of
data to date
Ted Redmond, Co-Founder of paleBLUEdot, introduced himself to the
Commission and proceeded to deliver a presentation regarding the Environmental
Sustainability Plan (ESP) update. The presentation provided a project overview,
a look at the planning process, and what will be done to engage the community in
the process, followed by a Q&A session. He also stated that he wanted to give us
all a more detailed review of the foundational documents than was presented in
the meeting earlier in the day.
He stated he’s an architect and urban planner. He practiced traditional architecture
for years, but switched what he was doing, and for the last eight years he has been
focusing on climate and sustainability and renewable energy planning. That is all
they do. paleBLUEdot is a smaller practice, but they have done over 50 relevant
community-scale sustainability, energy, climate plans in 23 states. This evening
he will be talking about the sustainability plan, which we should be familiar with,
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given that Skokie has one. It will be an overarching presentation, touching upon
multiple sectors. They anticipate that this plan will specifically address climate
mitigation and adaptation. Mitigation being reducing GHG emissions, and
adaptation being adapting to those impacts. They anticipate covering a broad
range of sectors. Preliminarily they have identified some, which will be able to
change as we work our way through the plan. Some sections may ultimately
be combined together, and we may decide that some should really be their own
sections. There are nine sectors identified: Buildings & Energy, Transportation,
Waste Management, Land Use, Ecosystems and Open Space, Water, Wastewater,
Public Health and Wellness, Sustainable Economy, and Food Systems.
Ultimately, three core products will be produced. The first is the Plan itself,
which will be a document (e.g. a PDF), the second will be an implementation
matrix (it will have all of the same strategies and actions in it, but will expand
out with more information, including things like who might preliminarily be
lead on an action, and who else might be involved in an action, as well as
potential resources that could be applied in the community, and will provide
opportunities for monitoring along the way) and, last but not least, there will
be a database of potential policies, ordinances or programs that relate to the
plan (examples that come from other communities around the country).
In terms of the schedule, they are looking at having a draft plan for available
public review in September through the beginning of November, and then a final
plan in November, aiming to try and get it out the door before the holidays. There
are a number of meetings planned, including for the Environmental Sustainability
Plan (ESP) team itself (there are about seven meetings scheduled in total). They
are currently anticipating two meetings in front of the SEAC (tonight, and then as
we near having a draft plan to share with the Commission, which provides an
opportunity for Commissioners to provide review comments before it is
finalized), community meetings, and presentations that will be made to the Village
Board / Trustees.
In terms of the planning process itself, there is an Environmental Sustainability
Plan (ESP) team. Some who are part of the SEAC are also on the ESP team. They
will be organizing into sub-teams. Everyone on the team will have the ability to
provide feedback/input on all of the sectors.
Vulnerability Assessment has just been completed. Greenhouse Gas (GHG)
Forecast is still pending, as additional data is being collected. There will be a
“Business as Usual” projection, illustrating where things will stand if we did
nothing. They also put a Groundcover Survey and Renewable Energy Potential
Study together. All of these various documents are to be summarized into
the Sustainability Baseline Assessment, with some preliminary suggested
strategic goals by each sector. This document is primarily produced because
they want to give the planning team a place to start, and they want to give the
Village a place to start with some potential goals that could be explored, rather
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than starting off with a blank piece of paper. Mr. Redmond went on to say they
find that people engage more rapidly by being able to express what they like or
dislike, and being able to make some suggestions.
He went on to talk about how paleBLUEdot has also put together a team
webpage, which Commissioners should feel free to access. It really is about
communicating with the planning team, as well as with Commissioners. It is
not a public website. While they are not trying to hide anything, there are
documents that the team will be working on collaboratively. Therefore, the
website is password protected. This way, people who are not on the team
won’t accidentally delete things, and other issues will not arise. That said,
everything that comes out of this process will be public.
In terms of the community engagement process, there will be two phases.
As far as the first phase is concerned, the intention is to be as open-ended as
possible. They are looking for people’s feelings and input. There are
community engagement meetings, there’s an online survey that has been
established, and there is the ability for community members (or anyone) to
do a “Listening Session,” where they can have a conversation with their
neighbors, community group members, etc. This is supported through a tool
that they call “Meeting-in-a-Box.” This consists of a Facilitator’s Guide,
some infographics, and some specific questions that paleBLUEdot suggests
are talked about during these sessions, as well as a way to send the responses to
questions back to them. Additionally, there is public information campaign
content, which consists of a Social Media Toolkit and flyers, which help to
get the word out.
Second round of community engagement will focus on meetings and survey.
That will be oriented around obtaining input from the Draft Plan itself. Prior to
finalizing the Plan, we will have the opportunity to see what people
think about the Plan.
In terms of the survey, they are aiming to get as much input as possible by
the beginning of July. The reason for this is this way they are able to take
what they’re hearing, summarize it, and package it, and can give it to the
Planning Team, because that’s the perfect timing for them to be able to
internalize that in the process.
Staff Liaison Zimmerman said that she thinks that the way in which we really
will get people to participate in / submit surveys is by getting Commissioners
to share it. For instance, we can share it on our personal social media. She
said that, thus far, the Village has publicized the Environmental Sustainability
Plan Update Survey via SkokieNews (the Village’s electronic newsletter),
Facebook, and the SEAC webpage. It is also on the Village’s homepage,
and there was a QR code that links to the survey at the Festival of Cultures.
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She stated that there’s a goal of 500 surveys.
Mr. Redmond said that there are two other ideas that they’ve seen communities
use in the past, which have proven to be effective. One was paid posts through
social media. It’s not that expensive, and can kind of provide a boost. The other is
that some turned it into a competition, where they tell people to enter a survey
by a certain date and they can be entered into a drawing for some sort of prize
(such as a gift certificate to a restaurant).
Commissioner Okallau said that she brought it up at the last meeting, but what
about the issue of people who speak different languages? How will that be
accomodated? Staff Liaison Zimmerman stated that Mr. Redmond was great
about it, and he came up with a solution for that. When you go to the website, it
has been translated into five languages, and then from there, you can change to
any language.
Commissioner Okallau then went on to inquire about social media posts and
our ability to translate those.
Staff Liaison Zimmerman said the Facebook post itself is in English. However,
the link brings you to the website where all of the various language options are
available.
Further discussion ensued.
Commissioner DeCanniere inquired as to whether at least some of the planned
community meetings will be remote or hybrid, so that people who either cannot
attend in person, or who would be uncomfortable attending an in person meeting,
could still participate. He said he just finds providing fully remote or hybrid
options to be important, particularly given that the transmission rates have
been on the rise in many communities throughout the Chicagoland metropolitan
area.
Mr. Redmond stated that they are prepared to switch from remote to in person, or
vice versa. For anything that is in person, he said they could also probably figure
out a way to stream via Zoom as well.
Commissioner Gotkin stated that we were once tasked with taking a look at other
communities’ Sustainability Plans. She said that of all the plans, Appleton,
Wisconsin, has what she feels is the most amazing plan in terms of accountability.
It seems that what is being proposed here is very similar. She said that, for
instance, she loves that there are a certain number of trees that the Village will be
told to plant. That way, the Village can go back and say “We met 50 percent of
our goal for this year,” and that sort of thing. This is very similar to what
Appleton did. They set a goal of converting all of their streetlights to LEDs,
and every year they reported how many streetlights they converted. She feels this
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is something that was missing from the 2016 - 2021 Skokie Environmental
Sustainability Plan. So, she’s so excited that this next version of the Plan will be
able to provide that sort of very specific guidance to the Village.
Mr. Redmond said that not everything can be all that easily quantified, but they do
try to quantify as much as is possible.
Commissioner DeCanniere stated that to follow up on what Commissioner
Gotkin said a moment ago, he was thinking that (once the new Environmental
Sustainability Plan is adopted) it would be a good idea for us to have some sort
of interactive tool (e.g. a dashboard) on the Village website which would be
accessible to the public. This tool/webpage could be updated as we go along
and, through this, the public could track our progress. They could see how
close we are to any given objective, or see which objectives have already been
reached, and could follow along in a more real-time, interactive way.
Mr. Redmond said that is a good idea. He said that another community that they
are working with has asked them to create a dashboard site, which will do
two things. As progress happens, that information will be uploaded/available.
Additionally, it will have an Action Toolkit. So, there is an opportunity for people
to get into the system, sign up, and then start taking actions themselves. For
people who may not know what they can do, it will give them specific actions
they can take.That system will also give them a way to communicate. The Village
will get information back when people take various “challenges.” It will tell them
that they have these users in such-and-such part of the community that are taking
these specific actions. So, they can do a quarterly energy challenge, or there can
be a contest to see which neighborhood will be the neighborhood that reduces
household energy consumption the most, and the like.
Commissioner DeCanniere said that sounds like a great way to enhance
community buy-in, the importance of which cannot be overstated when
you’re trying to do things like this.
Commissioner McNelis asked whether, when it comes to the vulnerable
population demographic data, one part of the deliverables consists of
gathering data locally.
Mr. Redmond stated that the data that they have is Skokie-specific. It is data from
the United States Census, but it is Skokie-specific, census tract by census tract.
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b. 2022/2023 SEAC E-News and Facebook Calendar
Staff Liaison Zimmerman asked if anyone has any suggestions for the marketing
calendar, or whether there are any changes.
Commissioner DeCanniere stated that he is aware that he discussed the issue with
Staff Liaison Zimmerman a while ago, but he thinks that we should add something
about PFAS chemicals to the rotation. PFAS chemicals have presented an issue for
a long while and, if anything, only continue to present more and more of a concern —
not only for our community, or for communities in our area, but nationwide and
internationally. Therefore, we may want to think about adding something that
encourages people to be more conscious of the products that they are purchasing,
so that they are not putting more of those chemicals out into the world. He said that
he also thinks the piece should address the issue of GenX chemicals and PFBS, which
can pose very similar health and safety hazards.
Commissioner Gershbein noted that he doesn’t see anything on the calendar that would
encourage residents to bring reusable bags to the grocery store or Farmers’ Market.
Commissioner McNelis suggested that something could be sent out in the springtime
about lawn products (e.g. chemical versus organic).
Staff Liaison Zimmerman asked if there is anything that we feel could be eliminated
from the calendar, because we need space.
Staff Liaison Slankard spoke about how the Village has a lawn care contractor who is
proposing to use robotic lawn mowers for some large area turf mowing. They are
working with Risk Management and with the Corporation Counsel’s Office to make
sure they cannot find any issues with doing this. Some of the staff went out and visited
this operation to see how it works in person. The lawn mowers are similar to the robotic
vacuums that many people have in their homes. These are electric, battery-powered
mowers that have their own remote deployable charging device. Units are GPS-equipped
and insured.
Additional discussion ensued.
Staff Liaison Zimmerman noted that, currently, these items are shared via Instagram,
Facebook and E-News weekly.
Chairman Grossman stated that this could still be modified. Staff Liaison Zimmerman
agreed, noting that we aren’t voting on it, but that Ms. Neville has already started
working on these posts. She is doing all of these posts in advance. Therefore, it is helpful
if there is feedback right now.
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c. Farmers’ Market — volunteers to promote Sustainability Plan Survey
Staff Liaison Zimmerman stated that, at the time of the last SEAC meeting, we were not
sure for how long the survey would run. There will be about four or five Farmers’ Market
days while the survey is ongoing. If there is any interest on the part of the Commission
for Commissioners to be there, they are looking for volunteers. She said that she doesn’t
even know if we need a table, because there are some foam board flyers with the QR code
on them. Commissioners could be walking around the Farmers’ Market or, if so desired,
we could have a table. She said she would need to know about one week in advance, so
that she knows for which weeks Commissioners are volunteering.
Chairman Grossman asked if, in the event that no Commissioners are volunteering at the
Farmers’ Market on a given day, we could still have the posters up. Staff Liaison
Zimmerman said that we could have the posters up, even if Commissioners are not
present. However, she noted that they had posters up at the Festival of Cultures and that
did not seem to work at all. Therefore, she does not think that it will be particularly
effective.
Additional discussion ensued.
Staff Liaison Zimmerman said that the great thing about the paleBLUEdot survey is that
they’ve done such a great job making it a learning tool about environmental
sustainability. Just getting people to take the survey is essentially getting the word out.
She said that she thinks that is a huge benefit of the survey in and of itself.
V. Public Comments
A public comment was received via email from Skokie resident Jan Beladi, advocating for a ban
on single-use plastics.
VI. Next Meeting
Based upon the expected availability of Commission members, the next meeting will be held on
Tuesday, June 28, 2022.
VII. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:02 PM.
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Agenda
Village of Skokie
Sustainable Environmental Advisory Commission
AGENDA
May 24, 2022
Village Hall – Council Chambers
7:00 pm
I. Approval of minutes
II. Old Business
a. 30th Annual Chicago River Day – May 14th – sign-up to volunteer at
chicagoriver.org
b. CUB Solar forum update – Charlie
c. Solid Waste/ Recycling Intern – Josie Neville started this week
III. New Business
a. Speaker: Ted Redmond, Co-Founder of paleBLUEdot
i. Environmental Sustainability Plan (ESP) overview and review of
data to date
b. Speaker: Matt Brandmeyer, Director of Community Development
i. Comp Plan update
c. 2022/2023 SEAC Enews/Facebook calendar
d. Farmers Market – volunteers to promote Sustainability Plan Survey
IV. Public Comments
V. Action Item: Vote to approve updates to the Village of Skokie Comp Plan
Chapter 5.5 Environment. If approved, updates sent to Plan Commission for
review.
VI. Other business
VII. Next meeting
VIII. Adjournment