Historic Commission
Regular MeetingWheaton, IL · September 15, 2015
Minutes
Minutes of the City of Wheaton Historic Commission FINAL
September 15, 2015 Meeting
Held at City Hall, Wheaton, Illinois
Attendance
Present: Emelie Engling, Nancy Flannery (Chair), Maureen Fogerty, Tom Kay, Steph McGrath (Secretary),
Greg Morrison, Frank Principe and Bob Shuster. Absent: Barbara Dutton
Public Comment
None
The meeting was called to order by Nancy at 7:00 p.m. Minutes of the July 21, 2015 meeting were
unanimously approved following a motion made by Bob Shuster, seconded by Tom Kay. Minutes of the
August 18, 2015 were unanimously approved following a motion made by Tom Kay, seconded by Bob
Shuster.
Old Business
-Bollards
Nancy created a listing of all bollards in town, including some similar to, but not erected by the Historic
Commission. A review was made of the data and there was some confusion regarding the dates as far as
landmarking vs sign installation. Steph explained that some of the sites had been landmarked previously
by WHPC and some members of the commission at the time felt it politic to include this info, despite the
fact that the bollards were entirely a Historic Commission project as far as selection, research, writing
and cost. In fact, the bollard project was conceived of in response to the WHPC organization morphing
into the Center for History and expanding their vision beyond Wheaton. It was felt at the time that
Wheaton local history was being neglected and so the commission stepped up. Steph will check the draft
proofs and Nancy will check her photos.
A list was also compiled of potential future bollards as discussed over the years since 2000. As for future
bollards Longfellow school is mostly done as far as research and writing. Emelie says there is a different
older historic sign somewhere at Longfellow that used to be set into a ground level mount, but this was
not the Historic Commission bollard. Other bollards in process and on the potential list were discussed,
particularly the railroads and depots, as well as the status of finding images.
-Theme Concept Presentation
Maureen and Barbara have been exploring the idea of developing a program of some kind, possibly with
a fund raising element, focusing on historic gardens and/or parks in Wheaton. They plan to meet with
someone from the Park district soon, and think they will select 4 to 6 sites to feature. Nancy reviewed
the city’s policy on boards and commissions and fundraising.
-2016 Preservation Week Lecture
Bob has been conducting research on Marcellus Jones and expressed his willingness to make a
presentation about Jones, similar to past presentations we have sponsored at the library. He would
forgo any honorarium. It would cover not only his celebrated actions during the Civil War, but also his
activities in Wheaton, including as a house mover. Maureen moved we accept Bob’s offer and Tom
seconded. It passed unanimously, with Bob abstaining.
-Wheaton Register of Historic Places
Nancy passed around a draft of a proposed new application form. Discussion ensued regarding what
information to require and what was needed for different criteria. Steph referenced finding some recent
examples that we might consider reviewing for useful components. All specify requiring a written
narrative. Steph proposed calling it a Summary Statement of Significance (SSofS), requiring applicants to
summarize their key points of proof supporting their specific criteria category. There was further
discussion about requiring footnoting or otherwise referencing the documentation for the SSofS and
helping applicants separate their submitted research files into primary support documentation vs that of
secondary interest. It was agreed a narrative SSofS should be defined as no longer than one page in
length.
The new application for 1023 E Jefferson was reviewed. There was some confusion regarding what the
various materials were meant to convey, and where the 1903 building date was derived. The
documentation was extensive on the property but not specifically about the structure. It was decided to
table the application until clarification is provided; Steph so moved and Tom seconded and the motion
passed unanimously. Nancy will contact the applicants and see if they’d like to meet at the library for a
research review and assistance session.
-FOIA Response
Per the City, the FOIA request of the Center for History has been complied with and is completed.
However it was agreed that there still needs to be a reply made to some of the commentary about the
Commission and a reminder that not all the storage places, only two, had been searched, when press
reports, court documents and information from individuals who helped move items out of the Front
Street facility all indicate there are more locations materials were moved to for storage. A draft text of a
letter and an added closing were reviewed and Greg moved to accept the text, upon combining and
review, and to send the reply. The motion was seconded by Bob and passed unanimously.
-Commission Mission
Nancy led into the discussion by posing: Where is our energy to be spent? What do you think our goals
should be?
Bob, as an archivist, expressed his concerns over records at the Center for History not being as available
to the public as they could be, despite the archival donations made by the City and even himself, and
worried about the records going forward.
If the Center for History makes good on its threat to leave town should there be a new group formed
such as a historical society? The DuPage County Historical Museum has an extensive Wheaton archival
collection having been heir to the Adams Memorial Library collection begun in 1891 and collected until
the 1960s with the establishment of the Wheaton Public Library; the Museum has continued to collect
Wheaton materials to the present day. The possibility of the library being the repository of Wheaton
archival records in the future was discussed.
Overall the commissioners felt continuing Pride in Preservation activities, home history research,
landmarking and bollard programs were key mission activities. New things may come up with new
members and their interests, ideas, skill sets and talents.
Bob suggested hosting a Wheaton History Roadshow to copy, collect and/or identify historic items
related to Wheaton held by the public, leading to an enthusiastic review of possibilities related to the
concept.
-2016 25th Anniversary of Historic Commission
Nancy passed out a roster of all past and present commissioners and their terms. Celebrating the 25th
anniversary of the commission was discussed with the idea of hosting a reception inviting back all past
members, probably during Preservation Week.
- Wheaton Downtown Design Review Board
Steph said that the Board was planning to meet again soon and reviewed the August 5th meeting she
attended as the Historic Commission liaison. The request is to paint the original, never painted, brick
façade and limestone trim of 111-113 N Main Street, whereas the Downtown Design Guidelines provide
for brick to be left unpainted. Staff recommended the request to paint the façade be denied.
She had asked questions about the stated attempts to clean the brick and limestone trim, and spoke
against painting the brick and trim. The applicant mentioned they might not want to paint the limestone
trim, but absolutely wanted to paint over all the brick with the color “sailcloth white.” Steph had
suggested they instead embrace the historic character by rebranding it “patina.” A motion was made to
allow the brick façade to be painted, but as there was no second, the motion did not go to a vote. Even
though the Board had a quorum with four present, two members were absent, so the owner’s
representative asked if it would be possible to meet again and the Board agreed to reconvene at a later
date.
She passed around photos of the existing building façade, two proposed designs using paint, and three
other downtown painted facades, explaining why the latter had been allowed. Bob moved that the
Commission go on record as feeling the design guidelines should be upheld and the brick and limestone
trim be left unpainted; Greg seconded and the motion passed unanimously.
New Business
-Financial Report
Nancy reported she had spent $56.29 to purchase replacement Pride in Preservation sign holders. A
brief discussion ensued regarding budget planning between the City’s fiscal year and Preservation Week
dates, and the next planned bollards.
Commissioner Comments
-Bob shared copies of an 1897 Wheaton Illinoian newspaper article he had found doing research about a
baseball game in which there were accusations of drunkenness.
-Frank shared a flyer he had picked up at the Wheaton World Tour Celebrates Diversity held Sept. 13 on
the West Plaza of Adams Park. It was on a historical sports theme and handed out by the Center for
History. He suggested we look into participating at similar events to get our messages and activities out
in front of the public. Others brought up getting our activities into local publications including by the
Wheaton Chamber of Commerce.
Bob moved to adjourn, Emelie seconded, the motion passed unanimously, and the meeting concluded at
9:09 p.m.
Next Meeting: October 20, 2015
Agenda
Agenda
Wheaton Historic Commission
Tuesday, September 15, 2015 @ 7:00 p.m.
Gamon Room (upper level) - City Hall
I. Call to Order
II. Public Comments
III. Approval of July and August Meeting Minutes
IV. Old Business
A. Planning for 2016 Preservation Week
1. 25th anniversary of the City of Wheaton Historic Commission will be in 2016
2. Maureen & Barbara theme concept presentation
3. Bob Shuster lecture proposal - Marcellus E. Jones ( possible title “DuPage and
Gettysburg: The Three Victories of Marcellus Jones”)
B. Bollards
1. Railroad bollard - images update
2. Photograph search update – Nancy
3. List of future bollards - Steph
C. Register of Historic Places:
1. Edited application form – Nancy & Steph
2. New application received – 1023 E. Jefferson Ave. (Kevin & Susan Berner)
D. FOIA Response – draft of letter from Steph
E. Fund-raising by commission issue (response by City) – Nancy
F. Mission of the Historic Commission – what is the purpose of the Commission?
G. List of Scanned brochures/documents– Nancy
1. List of past commissioners
2. List of missing meeting minutes
V. New Business
A. Update on 8/5/15 Wheaton Design Review meeting - Steph
B. Financial Report – Nancy
C. Landmarks Illinois preservation survey – Nancy
D. Sears Houses in Wheaton:
i. 813 East Evergreen
ii. 819 East Evergreen
iii. 733 Naperville (on the Wheaton Historic Properties list)
E. Wheaton history trivia questions request
VI. Commissioner Comments
VII. Next meeting to be held: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 7:00 pm, City Hall
VIII. Adjournment